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  3. Posted

    On 5/25/2021 at 5:03 AM, Hydroponic Weeds said:

    i wonder how the album will continue lyrically, in the second part of WW she says "hot coffee, i'm better - so i turn"

     

    it makes me wonder if she's chronicalizing her treatment or healing process from all of the things that have burned her. her mom, her man in BB, her dad who didn't step in when her mom did it. it would make sense if she's talking about healing from things that burned her including the critics too which we haven't really gotten a song about yet. unless you think about the "let's rewrite history i'll do this dance with you" as a line referring to the critics who dance back and forth with saying she's a bad artist who glamorizes abuse to giving her total critical acclaim. i just hope theres at least one or two other songs about the critics and not just a double meaning line in one song. like you're coming for revenge, let's get 2-3 songs about the critics. don't beat a dead horse and let that energy get stale though. just enough to make your point and move on

     

    also now that she said she won't be a wildfire maybe we're moving on from candle in the wind on this album. thank fuckin god

     

     

    oooo what do you guys think is the new red dress/pale moonlight? we had candle in the wind between 2/3 albums (if you count Yosemite from LFL) we're still getting blue, she still loves that color/word

     

    Oh I think it's all part of something even bigger and more "complete"....

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  5. Posted

    8 minutes ago, Turtledove said:

     whats wrong with her wanting to portray any of those things for a change? The reason you don't think she is being genuine is you don't think her friendships are that important to her :| if you were singing about your friends wouldn't you want people to take you seriously? Shouldnt we take her at face value? This thought process is something Ive noticed in myself, not meaning to call u out x

     

    I think it's because it feels overdone, inorganic and doesn't feel like a natural inclusion. It's a big shift from mentioning guys who were douchebags or who things didn't work out with in a song about heartbreak, to having QFTC where she called out the way that other females in the music industry were treated/viewed, getting backlash, then it's all "here I am with all my ladyfriends, here's some videos of me and my LA gurls playing around for NFR vids...here's a photo of us on COCC...and let me tell you a million times about how I'm really happy to have so many female friends in my life!"

     

    It feels weird and "curated" rather than a natural progression. Like either who she was previously was a bad person or not real...or this new incarnation is as fake as the past one and we should just accept that all of her art is as fake as it is drawn from real life. I probably haven't explained what I mean properly, because it's early Sunday AM and my caffeine hasn't kicked in yet so I'm having to keep going back to edit typos lol, but while I understand that musicians evolve in their style as much as their personal lives and of course maturity, being a bit older and having followed many, many artists throughout their careers, I've kind of gotten used to what I see are totally curated evolutions (like Madonna) and genuine artistic progressions (Blue October, MCR, Dylan, etc). This feels maybe not necessarily fake, but definitely forced. 

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  6. Posted

    7 hours ago, Diamantes WILD said:

    I get BTD vibes from TB, the drama almost western saloon atmosphere done well, w a slightly more upbeat n romantic chorus. 
     

     

    Literally just thinking THIS. I'm listening to BTD right now and reminiscing about those mega impactful opening lyrics:

     

    "Feet don't fail me now, take me to the finish line"

    "Blue jeans, white shirt, walked into the room you know you made my eyes burn"

     

    Those openers were SO fucking iconic and THAT is the sort of thing that I've felt was missing from her more recent projects. The dramatic tension. And I sort of felt it again in the beginning of 'Text Book', both the vocal and the lyric delivery; but that's why I think the song is a sort of dig at all of us who want her to continue to deliver textbook Lana songs. She's proving she can still have that impact, even if it is sonically different. NGL that's EXACTLY what I want from her.

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  7. Posted

    9 hours ago, Vertimus said:

    The name drops are terrible. We've had enough with Sean, Joni, Joan, Stevie, Cortney, and now Jenny and Nicki Lane. It's a little embarrassing and each new one dilutes all the others. 

     

    Agreed, I hate them But I think it's intentional on her part because in previous eras we'd get the names of guys who she was in relationships with sprinkled throughout her songs - usually bad or screwed up relationships. Now though it feels like she's trying to shed that dramatic "fatalism" vibe that WE all love, because of the amount of backlash she got from critics. It's as if she's trying to project an image of her having more wholesome friendships and being more female-friendly; kinda like "See, I'm not just 'the other woman' or some homewrecking bitch, some of my best friends are women!" and whether or not it rings hollow with fans, or if it truly is a change in how she now lives her life, it feels like a curated move designed to change how she's viewed/judged by critics. Like she's trying to intentionally separate who she is - lyrically, sonically, reputationally - from her previous eras.

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  8. Posted

    11 hours ago, Vertimus said:

    And it looks as if she’s got large grey sores here and there. How did those pass muster? 

     

    That had me thinking all kinds of stuff like 'Blue Banisters' was in relation to being beaten. Ribs being banisters and when they fade to green and grey like bruises do. Prob just been spending too much time looking into every little thing since these 3 were released, but after people commented on how the original pic made her look bruised and blue, this could just be her taking the piss out of us all for being so obsessive about every detail. 

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  12. Posted

    On 5/8/2021 at 4:49 PM, Bunny Mozart said:

    I do a lot of singing myself so I think I could explain her change in vocals and why they're not as good as her previous work:

     

    Simply put, COCC's vocals are very sparse in terms of using vibrato, breath control, chest voice etc. Instead, Lana is using her head voice a lot (which isn't ideal considering she's obviously more comfortable singing lower with her chest), and there isn't a lot of vibrato going on. Now if I were to sing songs from COCC, it wouldn't take much effort for me to sing them because there just isn't a lot of skill behind her use of vocals on that album.


    If I were to sing songs from BTD (Million Dollar Man, Cola), as well as UV (Black Beauty, The Other Woman), I would need to use my vocal chords a LOT more, especially the vibrato (the part where singers voice goes 'wobbly' when they hold out a note).

     

    So basically for Blue Banisters, Lana needs to get back to where her vocals are more comfortable (chest voice, contralto) which will create a more thick and fuller sound. That's what has been lacking with COCC in terms of singing. I feel like the COCC music wouldn't sound so 'empty' or 'weak' if Lana didn't use her head voice (light, breathy vocals). 

     

    God I hope this makes sense. Sorry for rambling :rollin:

     

    I swear she really does pay attention to us. 'Text Book' is all this and so much more of what we've been asking for. It's like she called it 'Text Book' because it's in the oeuvre of all those old-school moody, dramatic tracks that we pine for. Kind of like she's paying homage to that style whilst having a little dig at us for wanting textbook Lana tracks. Especially with it being a year since QFFT. And I'm totally here for it (never mind the Patti dig on WW, lol.)

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  15. Posted

    On 5/3/2021 at 4:51 PM, IanadeIrey said:

     

    Anyways, Mike Dean’s instrumental record is beautiful and I would love if BB had some of those cool synths and synthetic electric guitars. They kind of have a classic-rock feel to them, like something out of a Pink Floyd live show, and I feel like she could totally weave that vibe into her own sound.

    Wow...after listening to what was just dropped, lyrically...this genuinely aged WELL, lol.

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  19. Posted

    6 hours ago, IanadeIrey said:

    THEORY INCOMING (bear with me) - 
     

    Okay so I went back and read the Music Week issue and I remember either Ben or Ed said “she has two albums in mind, I think” and proceeded to talk about “the plan” that they’ve been trying to do for years, which they finally think they can pull off. 
     

    Now, I don’t want to sound delusional but I don’t necessarily know anymore if the “two albums in mind” were the album that would follow Chemtrails and the cover album. 
     

    The reason I think this is because:

     

    1. There are 2 cover albums confirmed to be in existence - one of American standards and classic folk songs, and another of pure country songs. Yes, she may have merged the two, but at the time of this interview, they were distinguished as two separate cover albums. So it can’t be LDR 8 PLUS only one cover album.

     

    2. She never archived the post on IG about Rock Candy Sweet. Surely, she has archived posts before, namely snippets and the initial April 2020 announcements for Violet Bent Backwards Over the Grass. So if the album truly was retitled, then wouldn’t she just delete the RCS post in place of BB?


    So, my theory is...

     

    There are TWO albums.

     

    - Rock Candy Sweet, which will be the album that challenges her place in the music industry, the crazy year she’s had in the public eye, and accusations of glamourizing domestic abuse and cultural appropriation.
     

     

    - Blue Banisters, which will be the album that takes stock of her life in between being a famous person and discusses personal developments, tells her own story, etc. 
     

     

    3. On November 17, she said she was working on two albums in a tweet. Chemtrails was already done at that point, so it could’ve been RCS and BB or BB/RCS (if they are the same album) and the cover album, but we’ll see. 
     

     

    Now, I know I said all this but I’m not entirely sold on it :rip: but I just thought I’d throw it out there to anyone who wants to add in their two cents. I’m leaning way more towards Blue Banisters being a retitled-Rock Candy Sweet.

     

    Reminds of when Guns 'n Roses released 'Use Your Illusion I' AND 'UYI II' together and they were different albums reflecting the band's growth (with different levels of production on different songs, but they work as a duo and fans are still to this day arguing about whether 'UYI I' or UYI II' is better. If we get that kind of release, it COULD be epic, but only if it's not just making two albums because there are a bunch of songs that she doesn't want to drop, even if they're weak and really just better as B-Sides.

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  20. Posted

    10 hours ago, Deadly Cruel Girl said:

    I don't like Honeymoon much. I like maybe 3 songs (like Music to Watch Boys To) just like Chemtrails. Lust For Life is better for me despite all the bad duets in there.  Even so some of her most beautiful songs are in LFL.

     

    I went and listened to LFL for the first time in ages again today. I'd forgotten just how many great songs there are on there (13 Beaches, Heroin, Change) but it's just weird as an album. Totally lacking in cohesiveness. It opens with retro 60's vibes, ends with retro 60's vibes and then in between has elements of BTD, HM and some weird-ass crap that I hate (Coachella). But I fell back in love with a lot of the songs all over again. I realised at the end though, it was like the whole album was her way of tying up one era, then singing about changing, wanting to move out of the black, into the blue (which we've seen in all songs since) before going out with the sounds of an ocean that kind of teases the NFL vibes (MAC etc). She told us she was changing in that album and she did. I only hope that the lyrics from DBJAG on COCC "I'm not going to change" might be heralding her choosing to screw off wanting to be more commercially acceptable and sort of returning to a more dramatically dark, if only thematically, vibe of previous eras (without having to use old lyrics, topics or even musical excerpts.)

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  21. Posted

    6 hours ago, bel air rose said:

    i really want something haunting and sad but also losing ur sanity like pretty when you cry, get drunk, is this happiness, your girl, disco etc 

     

    Also want that 'Ben' demo cleaned up, still with pouring rain in there somewhere and some added 'UV' era guitar...then going into next song which is 'Your Girl' and then

    'Caught You Boy' and 'Back To The Basics' only stripped of their initial poppy sound and given a nice dramatic, cinematic sweeping sound like 'West Coast' or '13 Beaches'. 

     

    Country/western sounding version of 'Afraid' would be sweet too: "I'm America's sweetheart, tryna get away....I've had it up to here, with y'all coming after me...I'm getting out of Santa Monica, fucking off LA, never coming back, no matter what you do or say." The falsetto in that echoes 'Waitress', it just needs a different beat and something hazy making it feel like a dream.

    I know I probably sound like I'm high right now, but fuck it, I want dreamy, hazy, lyrically playful, dark, guitars and drama! These are all just examples of how I think the transition back to being more 'produced' and fatalistic and vampy could be done so it didn't jarr too much with previous two albums.


    You should never come between a woman and her dream and a man who never knew his place* 

     

    *JACK!!

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  23. Posted

    Just listened to the snippet again and finally remembered what it reminded me of: Some Things Last A Long Time 

     

    That sort of thing would be a perfect compromise/bridge between the folk-ness of COCC and the more 'produced' feel of previous eras. I wouldn't be mad at there being a slightly more pared down vibe if it came in the vibe of the unreleased version of 'Yayo'. Also, thinking of how 'Wait For Life' managed to combine a country guitar opening, with piano and then swelled to a dreamy hazy vibe that isn't too far away from 'White Dress', it could be a similar format that allows for both fragility and big production vibes, with country guitar AND still echoing the piano present in 'NFR' & 'COCC'. Those three songs in my mind would be a great template on which to project a similar vibe for 'BB' that would fit nicely along that snippet we heard recently. Even 'Fine China' type stuff would be a nice sound that isn't too far from what we've had from previous 2 albums, keeping a country-esque feel while being more dramatic and 'twinkly' than what some of us are afraid we're going to get.

     

    So yeah, I'm manifesting THIS vibe.

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  25. Posted

    On 3/21/2021 at 5:13 PM, Surf Noir said:

    i would love something reminiscent of "disco"! it's haunting, dark, yet very well-crafted lyrically, and the rich whores version is a total banger, i'd love that sound :pray2: 

     

     

     

    I know I'm really late responding to you, but I just came across this post and you're so right. Now that we have the little snippet  think we might just be getting some stuff like this and I can't help get the feeling that it's going to have some sort of 'Twin Peaks' theme to it too. Like how Julee Cruise sang 'Falling'. All american like real good coffee and cherry-pie...with sinister, darker, more edgy undertones. Which I'm totally here for.

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