Random Lana Discussion Thread

[Three White Butterflies]

What in the hell is this thread anymore???? 

[Crimson and Clover]

 

  On 12/28/2022 at 1:40 PM, evalionisameme said:

 

off topic but I’m hoping for no more mac situations on Oceans, there was a lot of retro singer songwriter inspo on her Jack records which could have lead to lawsuits due to similar melodies/progressions.

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I never knew this  it’s giving Video Games and that random Greek song 

[evalionisameme]

  On 12/28/2022 at 4:02 PM, Crimson and Clover said:

 

I never knew this  it’s giving Video Games and that random Greek song 

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Tbf I never heard a link between video games and that Greek song-similar timing but that’s it

[evalionisameme]

I will add just for reference that it often happens where people hear songs-forget about them and inadvertently take elements of a melody or chord progression-

 

i always thought these two sounded alike:

 

 

[Deadly Nightshade]

The song that sounded a bit similar to video games was from Helen Vitali she is really well known and respected in Greece.

 

 

This German song sounds identical to MAC though  

[Eugene]

ya well, open a separate thread for that song comparison, I don't find it related to Ocean Blvd. 

[evalionisameme]

  On 12/28/2022 at 4:34 PM, salvatorelovesyou said:

ya well, open a separate thread for that song comparison, I don't find it related to Ocean Blvd. 

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yeah, I was just using it for reference. 
fair 

[LifeOnMars]

  On 12/28/2022 at 3:27 PM, evalionisameme said:

Yeah, she was real lucky no lawsuit was filed-see this song further below:

 

you can sing wild at heart over it

 

 

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If Radiohead couldn’t successfully sue her for Get Free, I doubt Lana would have been sued for this. The MAC situation makes more sense. They sound very similar. 

[Venice Peach]

Not to start another Jack hate narrative but he always uses the most basic chord progressions it's only natural that there are a hundred similar songs out there with a similar guitar work 

 

No one could replicate Rick's guitar on Yosemite for example  (only themselves on Dragon Slayer )

[evalionisameme]

  On 12/28/2022 at 4:38 PM, Venice Peach said:

Not to start another Jack hate narrative but he always uses the most basic chord progressions it's only natural that there are a hundred similar songs out there with a similar guitar work 

 

No one could replicate Rick's guitar on Yosemite for example  (only themselves on Dragon Slayer )

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The Peter schilling song has an exact vocal melody and production setup-there’s electric guitar and other production sounds in the same places ?-it’s more than chords

[Venice Peach]

  On 12/28/2022 at 4:39 PM, evalionisameme said:

The Peter schilling song has an exact vocal melody and production setup-there’s electric guitar and other production sounds in the same places ?-it’s more than chords

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I know but you usually write the melody according to the chords you're using so it makes sense for it to be similar too and it's only part of the verses. I actually think that chorus is better than the MAC one 

 

It's the same situation as the countless songs sounding like Last Christmas while being unreleated to it.

[Fingertips]

MAC sounding like some song from a random nobody is nowhere nearly as bad as Get Free/Creep 

[HeyBlueBaby]

  On 12/28/2022 at 3:17 PM, GeminiLanaFan said:

I haven’t read the interview but I doubt it. Doubt Courtney even thinks it. 
 

but, to be fair, when UV was out, with its unapologetic lyrics, with her weird interviews (whether she was misquoted or not), with its tragic undertone, I was sure that by the time she was 40, we’d find that Lana had ODed or something on her bathroom floor  Glad I was mistaken though and all her other albums after that reassured me. 

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And this is still one of my fears (not an OD) but that something bad will happen to Lana and she won’t be with us anymore. So that’s why the comparison triggered me.

 

I know Courtney was praising her. Mentioning Lana’s sobriety is weird to me though, because even though she sings about it in her songs at times she’s never explicitly spoke about sobriety. 
 

Still think CL is a legend of course, but I hate when people mess with Lana! 
 

I meant no harm in my previous post <3 

[bluechemtrails]

  On 12/28/2022 at 4:38 PM, Venice Peach said:

Not to start another Jack hate narrative but he always uses the most basic chord progressions it's only natural that there are a hundred similar songs out there with a similar guitar work 

 

No one could replicate Rick's guitar on Yosemite for example  (only themselves on Dragon Slayer )

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Wasn't it Lana's uncle who taught her to play the guitar and to "write a million songs with just six chords"?

[cherrytropico]

  On 12/28/2022 at 1:40 PM, evalionisameme said:

 

off topic but I’m hoping for no more mac situations on Oceans, there was a lot of retro singer songwriter inspo on her Jack records which could have lead to lawsuits due to similar melodies/progressions.

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girl this is literally the same song but in german  i cant believe it. 

 

even though the same chord progression is used in get free & creep, i didn’t hear enough similarities for radiohead to sue lana. but this…this is sue worthy. it’s not just the chord progression it’s the same melody and riffs

[PatentLeatherDoOver]

Unrelated to MAC, but a huge amount of Lana’s work used some variation of a progression like Am-F-C-G, so recycling one of the most common progressions isn’t anything new or specific to Jack

 

I’m not a huge Jack fan, but personally, there seems to be just as much work if not more from before Jack that bears melodic similarities to other artists’ work (Old Money, Video Games, Get Free, etc.). 

I think that this will be less common as Lana’s artistry progresses as she seems to delve more into less conventional melodic structures, and BoZ seems to indicate this about TUOB as well!
 

Comparisons will always be drawn, but I do think Lana’s headed toward a more distinct melodic sound with her next record

[taco truck]

Speaking of melodies if the melody from California (2015) bridge is never reused I will off myself

[evalionisameme]

  On 12/28/2022 at 4:45 PM, Venice Peach said:

I know but you usually write the melody according to the chords you're using so it makes sense for it to be similar too and it's only part of the verses. I actually think that chorus is better than the MAC one 

 

It's the same situation as the countless songs sounding like Last Christmas while being unreleated to it.

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It’s interesting you mention last Christmas because I cannot hear one similarity between creep and get free-different genres, different vocal styles, different pace but I hear last Christmas in get free one hundred percent.

[Fingertips]

  On 12/28/2022 at 4:51 PM, PatentLeatherDoOver said:

Unrelated to MAC, but a huge amount of Lana’s work used some variation of a progression like Am-F-C-G, so recycling one of the most common progressions isn’t anything new or specific to Jack

 

I’m not a huge Jack fan, but personally, there seems to be just as much work if not more from before Jack that bears melodic similarities to other artists’ work (Old Money, Video Games, Get Free, etc.). 

I think that this will be less common as Lana’s artistry progresses as she seems to delve more into less conventional melodic structures, and BoZ seems to indicate this about TUOB as well!
 

Comparisons will always be drawn, but I do think Lana’s headed toward a more distinct melodic sound with her next record

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Exactly, exactly

[evalionisameme]

  On 12/28/2022 at 4:51 PM, PatentLeatherDoOver said:

Unrelated to MAC, but a huge amount of Lana’s work used some variation of a progression like Am-F-C-G, so recycling one of the most common progressions isn’t anything new or specific to Jack

 

I’m not a huge Jack fan, but personally, there seems to be just as much work if not more from before Jack that bears melodic similarities to other artists’ work (Old Money, Video Games, Get Free, etc.). 

I think that this will be less common as Lana’s artistry progresses as she seems to delve more into less conventional melodic structures, and BoZ seems to indicate this about TUOB as well!
 

Comparisons will always be drawn, but I do think Lana’s headed toward a more distinct melodic sound with her next record

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Chord progressions are always reused-there’s clear similarities between blue jeans and wicked game but it’s clearly not a rip off-it’s about melody and the style of the song more than anything but yes-let’s see what ocean brings ?