Lana Del Dufrene 11,321 Posted September 19 7 minutes ago, lakeemmahottie said: i feel like people just think she's shit because theres this trope that when a female artist has a baby, theres a 50/50 chance the music is "mid/cringe" and i feel like people are still bitter over dr. puke production... I find it very hypocritical that people will hate on katy perry for working with him yet don't hate on Kim Petras or doja cat 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terrence Loves Me 72,892 Posted September 19 Can't wait to twerk against all of my lost braincells listening to this later 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
details 17,456 Posted September 19 10 minutes ago, DemonMic2003 said: I find it very hypocritical that people will hate on katy perry for working with him yet don't hate on Kim Petras or doja cat people most definitely give kim petras hate for that, every other page on the kim petras thread has an example of that but it's true, they don't come for doja. perhaps because she's not an easy target like kim and katy, since she's popular and does good on the charts. and at the end of the day, that's all that matters to this very loud and annoying crowd: numbers 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadSeaOfMercury 23,298 Posted September 19 17 minutes ago, DemonMic2003 said: I find it very hypocritical that people will hate on katy perry for working with him yet don't hate on Kim Petras or doja cat I find your findings valid. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocket0212 2,076 Posted September 19 Cute mindless bops. Exactly like all of her 5 albums before this one. I don't care about all of the pop star dramas so I'll give it a spin or two. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amandine Insensible 499 Posted September 19 50 minutes ago, DemonMic2003 said: I find it very hypocritical that people will hate on katy perry for working with him yet don't hate on Kim Petras or doja cat don't worry darling we hate them as well 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ultrabanisters 46,109 Posted September 19 1 hour ago, Coney Island King said: She’s never been an album artist to me. The most consistent one she released was Teenage Dream, everything else always only had a handful of good tracks imo. The album/singles certainly aren’t going to carry this era. I’m guessing any touring she does will be a success though, so at least she’s got that. as much as i ride for mrs perry, i do actually agree with this apart from the beauty that is OOTB as a cohesive masterpiece, i do agree she tends to be a better single artist than she is at 'world building' i do really enjoy her albums, but usually enjoy the singles and rollout more than the record itself i think she needs to follow her older sound (pre OOTB) and do what comes naturally to her, as deep down she is an incredible songwriter and can create albums with depth 0 Quote resident sweeter 24/7/17 - 9/7/23 - 10/7/23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lakeemmahottie 1,669 Posted September 19 40 minutes ago, details said: people most definitely give kim petras hate for that, every other page on the kim petras thread has an example of that but it's true, they don't come for doja. perhaps because she's not an easy target like kim and katy, since she's popular and does good on the charts. and at the end of the day, that's all that matters to this very loud and annoying crowd: numbers doja also said back in 2021 that dr. puke stole credits on her album and that she doesn't want to work with him before being asked to retract her statement. i didn't see his name on her most recent album tho thankfully. as for kim she literally told people to leave her alone because she's not the only one who works with him which is a terrible reason if you ask me, not that kim is a good artist anyway. she fell off a long time ago. 1 Quote SOPHIE • ARCA • SKY FERREIRA • YEULE • CHARLI XCX • WILL TOLEDO • JAMIE STEWART • CHELSEA WOLFE • YUNG LEAN • ECCO2K • NATURAL SNOW BUILDINGS • EARTHEATER • FIONA APPLE • BJÖRK • ANNA VON HAUSSWOLFF • KRISTIN MICHAEL HAYTER • RICHARD D JAMES • DEADMAU5 • MICHAEL GIRA • LIZ PHAIR • LANA DEL REY • TINASHE • FKA TWIGS • DEATH GRIPS • SNOW STRIPPERS • A. G. COOK • ETHEL CAIN • NICOLE DOLLANGANGER • KATIE JANE GARSIDE • SHYGIRL • BABYMETAL • CARLY RAE JEPSEN • PERFUME • BEYONCÉ • MACHINE GIRL • KILL ALTERS • RINA SAWAYAMA • A$AP ROCKY • FRIENDZONE • JOANNA NEWSOM • JANE REMOVER • UBOA • KATE BUSH • SARAH BONITO • SLAYYYTER • AYESHA EROTICA • CAROLINE POLACHEK • KELELA • DEVONTÉ HYNES • WEYES BLOOD • JULIA HOLTER • COCTEAU TWINS • TORI AMOS • HANNAH DIAMOND • FLORENCE WELCH • GIA MARGRET • SKULLCRUSHER • DEFTONES • KESHA • LORDE • BONNIE MCKEE • COBRAH • GOODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR • YUNG SHERMAN • SEA OLEENA • POPPY • DEAN BLUNT • DEAR NORA • T.A.T.U. • NAMASENDA • POISON GIRLFRIEND • TOVE LO • ZHEANI • ORTIES • BLADEE • AESPA • BANKS • ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER • OTAY:ONII • TEAADORA • IMOGEN HEAP • ROSE MELBERG • Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
details 17,456 Posted September 19 3 minutes ago, lakeemmahottie said: doja also said back in 2021 that dr. puke stole credits on her album and that she doesn't want to work with him before being asked to retract her statement. i didn't see his name on her most recent album tho thankfully. as for kim she literally told people to leave her alone because she's not the only one who works with him which is a terrible reason if you ask me, not that kim is a good artist anyway. she fell off a long time ago. about the stealing credits thing, it might be about a particular song or simply a matter of luke not being in the studio with doja, because all the songs he did for her are undeniably dr. luke productions. we can all hear how drastically different doja's songs sound without his involvement and how similar the songs he produced to other artists are to the stuff he did with her. did luke steal credits from everybody else? very unlikely, specially when it comes to songs he's the sole producer. like nicki minaj's cowgirl, for example, it sounds like it came straight from planet her and he's the sole producer. as for kim, i do think she gets unfairly singled out. i don't think people are wrong for calling her out about that, but where is this energy for other artists that also work with dr. luke? if we're gonna do it for one, let's do it for everybody. the double standards and hypocrisy in this community makes me sick 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blameitonme 15,680 Posted September 19 1 hour ago, DemonMic2003 said: I find it very hypocritical that people will hate on katy perry for working with him yet don't hate on Kim Petras or doja cat is this satire lol? kim working with dr like is constantly being talked about, especially since she released slutpop kim gets singled out because she has defended working with him over the years multiple times, she doesn’t gaf 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terrence Loves Me 72,892 Posted September 19 i love this album are we hearing the same thing 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Angel 203,618 Posted September 19 1 hour ago, DemonMic2003 said: I find it very hypocritical that people will hate on katy perry for working with him yet don't hate on Kim Petras or doja cat i will literally never understand this argument, both kim petras and doja cat have received PLENTY of backlash and criticism for working with dr. luke i think anyone willingly deciding to work with him deserves criticism, and if people don't like seeing the artists they like being criticized, well... maybe they should've made better choices 7 Quote 𝕚 ' 𝕝 𝕝 𝕙 𝕒 𝕧 𝕖 𝕒 𝕓 𝕝 𝕦 𝕖 𝕔 𝕙 𝕣 𝕚 𝕤 𝕥 𝕞 𝕒 𝕤 ⋆ ꙳ •̩̩͙ ❅ *̩̩͙ ‧͙ ‧͙ *̩̩͙ ❆ ͙͛ ˚ ₊ ⋆ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coney Island King 26,126 Posted September 20 Doja has actually been trying to get away from Luke from what i remember, there have been contracts she hasn’t been able to get out of, so she just made the best out of an awkward situation. Or something….i can’t remember. As for Kim, she has received massive backlash over Luke and doesn’t care and has literally told people to fuck off. It’s just not making headlines because she’s not famous enough. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChaoticLipster 24,735 Posted September 20 The problem is she lacks any creativity it’s so generic and lyrics so dull, it’s worse than an AI generated album concept and songs, AI would do a better job. Smile was better tbh, a 7. This is a 4 if that. She’s so oblivious of what to do. 0 Quote Arches are Illusions solid at first glance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slayyyngel 1,296 Posted September 20 I always see this: "I just think its funny that everyone critiques (artist I like) for working with Dr. Luke but not (artist I don't like)." On every single artist's trending discourse that works with Dr. Luke. Reality is we actually ARE saying this about everyone that works with him lol. And also, what are your metrics for this? Lol. You're going through everybody's profiles? I actually do hate Katy Perry, Kim Petras, and many others... typically equally! And refuse to support them anymore. This album has been funny because it really is the same quality of all of Katy's works, yes even her "best" albums the fandom loves to say are pop bibles. This has always been the type of music Katy makes so I just dont understand where all the hate comes from. Its exactly what her music has always been: catchy radio earworms of little substance and flashy over the top videos. And thats fine, just enjoy it! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEEPIT 200 Posted September 20 Gorgeous fucking stomps oh my god 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
finalgirl 2,413 Posted September 20 kitty kitty, wanna come party tonight trippy trippy daddy, take me on a ride if you want my body, gotta blow my mind 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vulnicura 2,269 Posted September 20 i only liked Nirvana (Aaron Joseph keeps carrying Dr Luke lol) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mssainttropez 14,800 Posted September 20 I haven’t give 143 a proper listen yet, I’ve only listened to WOMAN’S WORLD, CRUSH, and LIFETIMES. I do definitely feel like Katy is trying too hard and isn’t producing authentic music. Based on the tracks I’ve listened to, the album seems like an okay, fun pop record. Once I listen to the full album I’ll share more thoughts, but that’s where I am currently. Something that’s been bothering me about people’s treatment of Katy this era is the fact that they’re bashing her for working with Dr. Luke but not other artists. Paris Hilton worked with him as well on her latest record, and Paris is really good friends with Kesha. Paris and Kesha have publicly hung out several times this year. Obviously Paris isn’t known for her music, but there are other artists with bigger names in the music industry like Kim Petras and Doja Cat who work with him. I believe that everyone working with him should be called out rather than just (for the most part) one artist. I’ll always have so much love for Katy. Katy, along with Britney, were my first stans as a kid. If she does tour and comes to AZ, I’m definitely going <3 4 Quote ⊹˚⋆ 𝒃𝒂𝒃𝒚𝒅𝒐𝒍𝒍 𝒅𝒂𝒓𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒈 ‧₊° Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Make me your Dream Life 88,912 Posted September 20 There’s definitely some bandwagoning, but when you think about it, it’s a lot easier to hate on her bc she seems the most like she doesn’t even know what her actual sincere artistry might be. She's the easiest to tease, so of course people are gonna do it. It’s obviously wrong, but she doesn’t really seem to know how to market herself as an actual artist, and that’s been hurting her career the most. If even she wants to continue having one that is. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites