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Okay, just throwing this out there about Ultraviolence. 
 
She sings about "Jim", and the natural conclusion is to jump to Jimmy Gnecco. HOWEVER, in the french magazine interview she referred to Barrie as James, which is his middle name. Which means, the Jim she sings about in Ultraviolence, COULD be Barrie as a James could be nick named Jim. I might be completely off, but it's just a thought. 

lol you're optimistic. my prediction is she's going to do a few interviews in like february or early spring mentioning the album and possibly mentioning plans for a new single, then be silent for 3 months, announce the single, the single doesn't come out (lol obviously), it comes out like 2 months later with a homemade video and we don't hear anything about the album till fall

You guys are crazy! I laughed the whole thing about this guy...
Here my impressions: If there's anything i have learned in this past 2 years is: trust no Lana!  
 
Lana is a writter, but i don't think it's fair to judge her lyrical talent just because this hot-gay-guy says he had wrote some of her lyrics. She has tons of lyrics, and as a musician/writter i think it's ok to have help, in call to make it more perfect. Like a diamond, the beauty is there but needs some help to be improved, to perfectly shine. 
Lana is a diamond.
 
By the way, he is such an attention whore, but that doesn't mean he can't work with her.
 
Here standing for Braking my Heart, any way!
 

You guys are crazy! I laughed the whole thing about this guy...
Here my impressions: If there's anything i have learned in this past 2 years is: trust no Lana!  
 
Lana is a writter, but i don't think it's fair to judge her lyrical talent just because this hot-gay-guy says he had wrote some of her lyrics. She has tons of lyrics, and as a musician/writter i think it's ok to have help, in call to make it more perfect. Like a diamond, the beauty is there but needs some help to be improved, to perfectly shine. 
Lana is a diamond.
 
By the way, he is such an attention whore, but that doesn't mean he can't work with her.
 
Here standing for Braking my Heart, any way!
 

You guys are crazy! I laughed the whole thing about this guy...
Here my impressions: If there's anything i have learned in this past 2 years is: trust no Lana!  
 
Lana is a writter, but i don't think it's fair to judge her lyrical talent just because this hot-gay-guy says he had wrote some of her lyrics. She has tons of lyrics, and as a musician/writter i think it's ok to have help, in call to make it more perfect. Like a diamond, the beauty is there but needs some help to be improved, to perfectly shine. 
Lana is a diamond.
 
By the way, he is such an attention whore, but that doesn't mean he can't work with her.
 
Here standing for Braking my Heart, any way!
 

this entire thing is incredibly strange, yes
 
but i don't disbelieve him. his methods are a bit juvenile but lets not forget about the fact that he is young and likely to be less mature than more seasoned songwriters with more tact and half the narcissism 
 
i don't really know how to approach this situation in terms of all the skepticism. i'm still chatting w/ him about random stuff, but i obviously don't want to sound accusatory in the slightest. i do want to bring up the jarrads thing though. i dunno what to say to get him talking about all the lyrical business

https://twitter.com/MissDaytona/status/1839372566

I can't keep up with this thread anymore. You guys are stalking Edward like there's no tomorrow...It's fucking insane! I know you all want the new album and a lot of you are really thrilled about the possible inclusion of some of Lana's old and unreleased songs, but don't get too excited. Nothing has been confirmed, yet.
I was getting really excited when Cola was "announced" as a single and look what happened. Now my disappointment actually surpasses my excitement
I don't want you guys to experience the same thing me and some other members had to go through.
So keep calm until we get some reliable information.

After being trolled before in a different fan base by some guy who was able to get his name added to writing credits on songwriting databases and was actually able to upload a fake song to iTunes under the artist's name, I'm skeptical of this. It's really easy to fake these things just by sounding important. 
 
Not saying there isn't any truth to this (although, the wanting writing credits in youtube video descriptions seems weird), but I don't think you should question the validity of Lana's writing because of him. 

Where's your enthusiasm?
 
Anyway: "James Joseph "Whitey" Bulger, Jr. (born September 3, 1929) is an American convicted murderer and former organized crime figure." Sounds like someone Lana would write a song about.

that sounds like something i can do. one moment please

the life i want tbh

Not necessarily but she clearly has a vision for her album. I remember Tropico was mentioned way before actual anouncement - in Paradise trailer. She seems to think into the future much. 

Praying for Emile Haynie 
 
Imagine Ultraviolence tour where Lana take her fans on the stage and beat them till the death 

Maybe stop trying to tell us what the album is going to sound like based on a fucking title, guys. Thanks! 
 
Either way, this is exciting, and Tropico was very cool. 

This is downright offensive and quite frankly incorrect. How is it lazy? What % of people who like Lana Del Rey have heard all these leaked songs? Probably 5-10 at most. Only the die-hards actively seek out every little leak and song she's gotten her hands on. Why should she be expected to NOT put out songs she loves just because YOU'VE heard it before? It's so selfish on your part to think otherwise. 

In the car, wtf did she throw? A copy of Paradise? The farewell?

A few disjointed thoughts about the film, which on a whole, I enjoyed.
 
1. I enjoyed the way they danced during Body Electric. Watching them dance wasn't like watching people dance in the club or ballroom, but almost its own hybrid. It looked natural like they didn't care who watched, just what their bodies felt like doing. The way they moved showed how curious they were about the world and their bodies.
 
2. It seemed like John was the central figure on Eden. Was he supposed to be the "God" (and Jesus his son??? idk lol).
 
3. Adam and Eve seemed centered on one big sin for their story lines. Eve- lust and Adam- wrath. This seemed to make sense to me, because Marilyn was promoting sexuality and John violence (or rather more defense I suppose) and Adam and Eve sinned by blowing those two traits out f proportion.
 
4. The ending is the only part that confuses me. When they began floating were those things in the sky supposed to be UFOs? if so kinda wtf or were they thunder clouds?
 
5. Elvis' reactions to everything. it killed the mood for me.

Shout outs to  @ for mentioning Whitman's "The Children of Adam" as possible inspiration for the plot.
 
Walt Whitman's "Children of Adam" - Analysis
 
A group of fifteen poems in the 1860 version of Leaves of Grass was entitled Enfans d'Adam. In 1867, these poems, after a few changes, were retitled Children of Adam. In the 1892 edition, the group consists of sixteen poems.
The major themes of Children of Adam are procreation and physical love between man and woman. The themes are dealt with through imagery rich in Christian tradition. Whitman uses many Christian concepts in his own unique way to express his individual precepts for mankind.
Fundamental to Christian belief is the story of the Fall of Man, interpreted either literally or symbolically. Adam and Eve, falling prey to Satan's temptation, disobeyed the divine command and ate the forbidden fruit of knowledge. This act of disobedience resulted in Original Sin, the inheritance of humanity. Man is therefore a born sinner, and his only hope of salvation lies in the grace of God, attained through Jesus Christ.
Whitman reverses this traditional Christian tenet. He asserts that it is not Adam but Adam's children who have really lost the Garden of Eden. Adam's children can regain this lost paradise not by denying the flesh, which had been a Puritan belief, but by accepting it. Man will then be reborn through this glorification of his body, for the human body is as sacred as the spirit. Thus, man is not born debased as a result of Original Sin. He should be proud of his heritage and of the "Adamic" in him.
The theme of procreation in these poems was revolutionary at the time of their first publication. Whitman thinks that procreation is a creative act, an act of spiritual regeneration. Man finds fulfillment in sex and should thus rejoice in it, for it is only through physical love that man can take his place in the cycle of life. And it is only through spiritual regeneration that man can complete his quest — and the full, uninhibited experience of sex is seen as the first step to spiritual regeneration.
 
Everything. Makes. So. Much. Sense. NOW!

The way I saw it was that the garden of eden represented her early childhood, everything was beautiful, she was surrounded by the icons that would go on to shape her life, then by a decision she consciously made, she left all that behind with the man she loved, she cast herself into chaos and did what she had to in order to survive. the ending scene is when she finally arrived at the point where she wanted to be. She cast off the black lingerie and reached paradise, but not the same paradise as her childhood, this one is different, she knows more, she's not as innocent, she's learned from her mistakes and she's found her place in life.

okay here's what i think. Tropico was by no means a cinematic masterpiece. it lacked a cohesive plot line and seemed more like 3 very interesting concepts tied together. this isn't a bad thing though. I kind of liked that it relied so heavily on themes that we're all familiar with. they're the themes lana's constantly sung about through most of career: falling from grace, the concept of sin and hedonism, and redemption. In that sense, Tropico is great expression of the character lana del rey portrays.
 
Furthermore, if we look at Tropico less critically and enjoy it at face value, we have 27 minutes of visually striking material. The colour palette is just absolutely beautiful imo. Especially when we compare each three parts separately. Body Electric looks airy and soft, almost a fantasy world just beyond our grasp with the the blurred pinkish hues. G&M looks much more grungey with focus on that steel blue colour and the contrast of her red lingerie (probs symbolic but let's not go there). Finally we have Bel Air which focuses heavily on yellow/gold tones. idk it's just so pretty. i didn't sit down and watch Tropico expecting an instant classic, but i was entertained and enthralled and that's good enough for me.