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Can't wait for thank u, next to win next year!

Sumn sumn we did it for the right reasons

Before I go off on how talentless and lackluster she is, please speak about Borde in her appropriate thread. Thank you

Grammys have been over for almost a decade y'all, along with the MTV VMA awards, the Oscars, etc.

I think people keep overlooking that the very founder of Hillsong has paid off rape victims... That's no regular church. I'm just saying Lana can do a little research about the place she's going to. I mean, at least for me, I wouldn't go to a random ass place without doing research. As I've stated countless times, it's a good thing we haven't seen her back. I'm saying that this church is known to abuse people, so in terms of Lana's wellbeing and her being very, erm, air head like, it's a good thing she's not revisiting this place that's known to be manipulative. I'd say about half of this thread has been people focusing on the gay conversion therapy thing, which in itself is a form of abuse, but you guys keep overlooking the pedophilia and rape victims being paid off. Obviously there's all of those things in some churches, but if you're smart, you do some research before joining anything, unless you're THAT lost in life, which is sad. I'm just stating, in terms of abuse, Hillsong takes the cake over many Churches I know about. We're not saying other Churches don't have bad things, were saying this has got to be one of the WORST and most publicized, so Lana should at least be vigilant enough to do some searching. But again, glad she hasn't been back.

Ugh I remember the great war that started the night tropico premiered. Lana announced UV, and no one heard it properly, so usernames stretched from ultraviolence to ultraviolet to ultraviolent those were the days

Just wait till early March! An ancient tribe of evil people against usThe term died out but the pain our people endured is still very real

At least we haven't seen or heard of her going back which is a very good sign!

Are you actually serious? Have you read any of my posts? You do realize I've been speaking on the pedophiles and rape victims along with the fact that the church tried to pay off the rape victims in order to shut them up right, while also speaking on them being in support of not letting women have reproductive rights? I'm honestly disgusted by your behavior and the fact that your argument tries to dismiss the pain and suffering people had to endure because of this church as simply an argumentative tactic. Your oversight on everything that has been discussed in here truly speaks volumes on who you are as a human being. Do you have any sort of moral compass or heart? I was simply speaking on the acts that have been perpetuated by the church in order to open up some of the fans eyes who think I'm only speaking about gay conversion therapy (which in itself is a form of abuse and is also truly disgusting for you to try and brush it off as anything less than). I clearly can see where you're coming from, fixating purely on the structure in which I presented my argument as, rather than actually absorbing any of the information. I'm simply at a loss for words attempting to understand how you can try to spin such a dark conversation into something as petty as dissecting the very way I've constructed my argument. Have some fucking respect, this isn't some heehee haha oh Lana called her song Cinnamon discussion. Were speaking about the fact that this person we supported attended and could very well still be attending a church that is known to be against every walk of life. Take your ignorance somewhere else buddy. You can try to string together and bring to life whateverr Frankenstein theory you've got on me, but I'm not having it. When you come back actually wanting to discuss the topic like a civilized adult rather than speculating who is against Lana and who isn't, then we can talk, but it is very clear you are currently in a state of trying to conjure up any sort of crack in a members argument simply to reassure yourself of Lana's innocence and disregard any sort of discussion leaning towards Lana being at fault. I truly hope you do some soul searching and learn that when something is as heavy as pedophilia, your jokes are not needed. I've suffered from my own abuse in life and I'll be fucking dead before you tell me what I do and don't stand for. Thank you.

@salvatore I pity the innocent who bare witness to the day this collaboration is awakened and set forth upon the world

I can't wait to make a deal with Satan agreeing that he can harbor my vessel with his eternal soul to wreak havoc on this world in the great war, so that he can promise me yosemite will never see the light of day and Cinnamon will be the next single

Thank you for your valuable input, I'll be sure to email Miss Grande about your tips on her career. Also, may I ask Sir or Madame, what are your credentials as a successful artist manager/singer, just so I can further inform Miss Grande of your career status so we know you're speaking from a reliable source of logic, and not simply blowing hot steam out of your sour jealous ass?

All I'm trying to say is Lana going to Hillsong is fucked up for her female fans, her fans who have been a victim of rape, and her gay fans, WHILE ALSO being harmful to herself. It's not all about us either, I'm saying that that place can have a bad influence on HER OWN well-being as well. She hasn't been spotted again so there's always the off chance it wasn't for her, and she stopped going. Which is what I'm hoping for

There's nothing wrong with loving her music, just don't call yourself a stan if you don't care about her well being. Someone who actually is interested in her fully would consider the damage a place like Hillsong could do to her, so for you to say you don't care about anything she does, is a pretty fucked up statement in itself, but I guess ignorance is bliss, so I cannot completely condemn you for your actions in trying to salvage someone's decency.

Um I'm down for more White Mustangs

Oh I don't think she owes us anything! I'm just saying modern day fame entails a fanbase that is completely obsessed with you and that there is no way to change that nor stir clear from it. It sucks, but there really isn't anything we can do to stop it when it's been going on for too long now. The only way to get her fans off her back is 1) do something really frowned upon (which could be why she went to Hilsong in the first place) 2) stop releasing your music to the public

No need to be rude to Lana, but we all know her going to Hillsong is fucked up. I hope she's reconsidered her actions and that's why she hasn't been spotted again. I'm all for finding your way in life, but when you've been lost for 15 years trying out cults, gurus, wicca, philosophy, spiritual guides, churches, fortune tellers, etc. I don't really know if you'll ever find a path that's suitable for you. I'm very well aware of the fact that we as human beings are growing, but Lana hasn't stood for anything ever. Yes, she's interested in furthering science, technology and space exploration (which are very broad statements seeing as everyone who is human should already be interested in the development of society and culture as a whole, so it's not really impressive) but she lacks basic goals and morals. I know she doesn't want to be a public figure, but it's not the 50s anymore. When you find yourself in the limelight nowadays, there's no way to run from being someone people look up to. People will be interested in how you think and work, that's just how fame works now. For her to go on instagram and talk about Nina Simone's influence on politics and how she was interested in the idea for Lust For Life, and then to make decisions like going to Hillsong which is a known cult who is against most of humanity, are very contradicting actions. I think her statement on feminism was very eye opening. She stated it just didn't INTEREST her, until 2016 when things got rough, and then it interested her and was her main focus. It seems as though she only stands for things she finds interesting that are becoming big in mainstream society. Same thing with the "instagram baddie" life. Lana doesn't really have a foundation of what she wants to work towards in life, she just sees something shiny and pretty making its way into mainstream culture and hops onto the bandwagon which makes me very sad. As I've stated, it's one thing to be growing as a person, it's another to stand for nothing until something interests you, you try it, and then become bored and spit it out. I just hope she finds her way to be quite honest, because she's been lost for a very long time and I don't necessarily see it improving the older she gets. I'm just glad we haven't seen her at Hillsong again.

Not Lana calling Cinnamon something stupid like When You Took All Those Pills To Keep Me Out, I Still Won

God save us all Or Satan tbh Whoever's more powerful

You better slap that truth into these members bussies king

One of these things is not like the other

Can we at least have the tracklist Or a list of instruments used on each song like HM era Or a Twitter post with new lyrics Or Even a BBC 15 minute radio interview Or a VB, MAC and Hope live lounge Like anything Lana Anything

I wanna stand by this statement, but I can't even understand it

It still makes me sad that Rick said LFL demo was gorgeous until Lana contacted Max Martin