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    My thoughts exactly. You rock!

     

    I don't know if you're serious or not... but Lana singing about *wanting* a guy to hit her sexually isn't the same as getting punched twice in public and getting knocked unconscious.

     

    And there ain't no way she couldn't be hurt or offended by that line lol. Imagine someone who you've loved so long dissing you by saying he'd punch the shit out of you. Smh.

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    I love that Paris concert to bits!

    My attempt at a top 5:

     

    The Paris' Off to the Races live on studio;

     

     

    Body Electric in Hackney 2012;

     

     

    Burning Desire in Germany on Paradise tour;

     

    http://youtu.be/sqS_kkKjuh0

     

    Cola in Milan 2013 (so lively, sweet and sensual -- Lana is really into it!);

     

     

    Dark Paradise in São Paulo, 2013 on Paradise tour.

     

    None from UV coz I love all her live ones she's been doing now in 2014, specially West Coast.

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    I was already into Jimmy Dean, MM, Nabokov (Lolita is my favourite book), Whitman, Elvis etc and her references made me love her even more. But I am learning some stuff about Americana, Bohemian poetry and Beat culture thru Lana. I am thankful an artiste like LDR is in this world.

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    Yeah, not so much on UV, but there's certainly a jazzy vibe on her vocals on her earlier recordings, official and unreleased. Hawaiian Tropic for instance... It is a strong influence, Lana got mojo!

     

    Darling .. just ... no.

    The Other Woman is a jazz song. But Lana's version is no jazz version.

    Nothing on UV has anything to do with jazz. The only thing where you could see a vague jazz influence with lots of goodwill is Sad Girl, but that's it.

    My parents are big jazz fans, so I know how jazz sounds, how different classic and less classic versions of jazz sound. Lana's music has 0 to do with jazz.

    There is this difference between "influence" and "inspiration" which lots of fans have missed.

    Go ask anyone who is not a Lana fan if he hears jazz influences. he will laugh at you. Y'al are reaching for this because Lana keeps on brabbeling about jazz. But just because she loves jazz music and because it's one of her new favourite words, this won't magically add jazz influences to her music.

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    Listen to Lana's albums carefully. The jazz influence is all over the place! Her vocals specially, jazzy and bluesy...

    "The Other Woman" version, that's Lana's type of jazz!

     

    Gaga is singing standards, Del Rey pens jazz-inspired songs. There's the difference.

     

    YEAH REALLY SO TRUE I NOTICED IT TOO! :magikarp:

     

     

     

     

    The only difference is that Gags actually makes Jazz music and Lana just keeps on repeating the word "J-A-Z-Z" but her music really has nothing to do with the genre. Even though some fans here really start to believe she does "Future Jazz" or anything ... So you can say that she at least brainwashed them successfull :godlaugh:

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    I love your thoughts and quite agree.

     

    Regarding the comparison with Cat Power by some of you here: Oh dear, I could write an essay discussing Lana's true poetic talent (failed English major here) and why she is a brilliant songwriter but I am too tired now.

    Lana is as good as Chan, as a matter of fact, her vision is much bolder. I have been a CP fan since the nineties, way before Cat Power went worldwide famous and still was an indie act singing deep sad songs. Watched her live twice. Not following her as I did then anymore...

     

    Lana is not inferior to any songwriter out there, she can write beautiful poetry in music form, her aesthetics also are part of the whole vision. Plus, the recurring themes are genius!

     

    Give our girl a couple of decades and she will go down in Music History as one of the greats, one of the best American songwriters.

     

    Yeah, I am such a fangirl and not ashamed. I worship Lana Del Rey!

     

    Seeing all those posts about Lana not being "lyrically wise" (I mean not only the last few in this thread but also the criticism toward Y&B and lots of posts in other threads) I cannot tell whether it's actually an "unpopular Lana opinion" :thirst: . Not like I don't entitle you to your own opinion cuz I entirely do (especially if I sometimes agree at least to a limited extend) but just wondering if it doesn't turn out that in fact there are more people disliking Lana lyrics (as textual works, not regarded in their context) than those really cherishing them.

     

    So if loving Lana as a songwriter is an unpopular one, here is mine:

     

    There countless Lana songs that I find lyrically exquisite. To list but very few examples:

     

    She's Not Me:

     

    "I'm the ghost in your mashine" - besides referring to philosophy (what itself makes the song more profound) Lana totally alters the whole concept. While orginally the term describes dualism in one person, Lana's use encompasses two of them. Translating this metaphore, it appears as "I'm [as a "ghost"] lingering inside your body ["mashine"] and no, I am not leaving". What it exactly means, we can surely argue but for sure she uses the philosophical concept to wrap with it the fact that her (ex-)boyfriend and she are binded.

     

    And this intended change of an already existing term smells kinda Gainsbourg-like to me... but I guess that's too far-fetched? :toofunny:

     

    I also love how she uses lots of slang expressions and idioms that literally are about death: "a ride or die bitch", the already mentioned "ghost", "dead and gone", "suicide blonde"... Crammed together, they add some thrill to those lyrics! Like there's something supernatural about it... I'm probably the only one to have such a weird association but the song matches some scenes of "Over Her Dead Body" where Kate, having died as Henry's fiancée, becomes a ghost and tries to hold back his new romance. The characters' aims are quite different in the romantic comedy film and in the song but I just want to point out that the concept of the ghost stalking her (ex?) partner fits quite well into the lyrics. Hopefully the movie helped me to illustrate it...

     

    I know it's ridiculous to interpet it literally but it's beyond me, I feel haunted by my stupid ideas.

     

    Off To the Races:

     

    The "Lolita" quote - "Light of my life, fire in my loins" is one of my favorite phrases ever, a pensive and good-sounding cluster of words (both because of the alliteration and its meaning).

     

    OTTR is full of other colorful epithets such as: "my red nail polish", "his cocaine heart", "your black Cristal", "your little scarlet starlet", "a soul as sweet as blood red jam", "my tar black soul"... All those color words colorize the song :flutter: Actually, I perceive OTTR rather as an image than words. Some will say that's kitch-like but to me it is not - it would be if she constantly described characters in the story only by hair color (like in poorly-written fanfiction :P like "the tar-haired girl said this, the tar-haired girl said that") but referring colors to intangible notions sounds at least a bit fresher to be and doesn't make me cringe.

     

    And "scarlet, starlet" is alliteration again, if I'm not wrong? Another reason to love those lyrics!

     

    Talking of colors, may I just mention one lyrics from Hundred Dollar Bill? I agree that "I'm in my party dress, he says you're such a mess" isn't the cleverest lyrics under the sun but "you turn my mood from black to blue" is a really well-thought phrase. It uses two adjectives which literally both mean colors but also mean certain moods... Reminds me Emilie Autumn's "my ocean is bluer than the heart you had to break".

     

    I also think Lana can catch a lot of meaning in her similes: "life sweet like cinnamon, like a fucking dream I'm living in", "spinnin like a ballerina" (followed by "feelin gangsta" and that's why it's aww-some"), "like Jim Morisson", "when you talk, it's like a movie"... they tell more than non-poetic prose ever could tell!

     

    Or simple repeted sentences from some AKA songs "I'm in love with a dying man / I have done everything I can" is enough to describe her whole mischief/distress connected with the situation. Such songs really call for your imagination, telling you very little but at the same time kindling your curiosity.

     

    I know I'm an infinite bore to have posted my dull elaboration - but I just wanted to point out what indeed I see in Lana lyrics... Sorry if I'm too stupid to word my feelings... I am stupid :< .

     

    And that I worship so many Lana lyrics doesn't necessarily mean I'm a fan of "You're disgusting, I'm delicious" :usrs: .

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    I get what you mean but I don't think it was meant to be titillating... I believe it was done for aesthetic purposes. Art for Art's sake.

    They don't seem to be those kind of trendy, attention whore girls.

     

    It doesn't matter if they're beautiful or not.... it's about societal implications of things, which Lana loves to be completely oblivious of.

    I'm on a diet, because I wanna be skinny. You can say that  I'm doing this for sake of beauty. But when you look deeper, you'll realize that it's beautiful only because that's what society values at the moment. And all of this is true.

    Honestly, there's nothing cheaper than heterosexual girls (dunno about Chuck, but Lana... yeah) kissing each other for attention or ~art~. I remember girls at my highschool doing this, lol. It's sort of how dudes hate gays, but love lesbian porn (what gross people).

    It's not original, and not even shocking.

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