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Dont be annoying

ethel if u read this thread please put " theres something wrong with me" on the b sides its soo good omg

hayden if your read this thread please keep posting perverts demos

Punish is not trying to justify pedophilia (more so Ethel isn’t but the narrator in the story is), it’s an exploration of shame. Here’s what she said about it

“I wonder how deep shame can run, and how unforgivable an act could be that I may still justify it in some bent way to make carrying it more bearable,” Cain says in the press release. “Would I tell myself it’s not my fault and I couldn’t help myself? Would anyone truly believe that? Would I?”

I get your point, however i am the polar opposite. I love how heavy the topics of her art are, this is really the first artist i have discovered that writes about such stuff and i fucking love it
 
the thing about Punish, i honestly always understood the song personally the way that the lyrics can be both from POVs of the predator and the victim. I do obviously know the lore described by Hayden, but i guess good art makes people look at it from multiple angles

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNeoCrqqV/
 
ppl are getting vinyls w the back cover i made BYEEEE

yes ofc
 
https://krakenfiles.com/view/WNzjtGcg1t/file.html
 
heres the tumblr post its from too
https://www.tumblr.com/angelsofgore/667891839096045568/atriums-pinkcumso-this-is-a-little-piece-of-an

you're missing "i shot an angel (poachers pride demo)" the voice memo thing, and the og version of coma baby that's just the first verse. and her Drake cover and the 2023 leak called "Heaven"
 
"Erich" is just another name for fleurs captives from flowers of flesh & blood, it's exactly the same as the record version afaik
 
also the a heart shaped bed title track demo
 
and that should be it i think!

Heeey so since we needed a masterpost i spent my whole afternoon making this one! I think its pretty complete but lmk if somethings missing <3
 
https://mega.nz/folder/eZ8U1bCL#LZtfKfdFcq0kRuPL0_PIuQ

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ethelcain/comments/1ig23hs/evidence_of_hayden_talking_to_minors_and_giving/
whoever posted this fuck you this is not what i intended them to be used for 🫠

every time i open this thread

She has a story highlight titled resources still available on her insta. I can't believe some people are being judgmental of a literal child who was raised in a religious family for not being in favor of abortion.

yea she had links for resources up on her insta after roe v wade got overturned, actually they're all still up on a highlight

It’s funny we are having this discussion on a stan website for Lana who literally married a MAGA jagoff. 

Artists have always been controversial.. the fuck? That’s the point of art … you have something to say and you are not held back 

and literally bringing up her old songs while she was there in the nts chat like how annoying can u be
 
i mean either way im sure she had no clue they were minors when she joined and i bet she never even found out i mean its discord how would she know their ages

We shouldn't trust any of them.

Mind you this person was actively part of the group taunting Hayden about having her unleaked stuff on Discord. But they did explain to me why it happened. Idk I'm just taking everything with a grain of salt considering the same person said that those obviously just Paulstretched Perverts songs were real when they're clearly not.

IF she really joined a Discord server with a bunch of teenagers, IF she knew they were underage, and IF she sent unreleased songs to them... Why? Why would she do something so stupid? It'd be out of character to say the least. She didn't want minors in her own Discord server, so she removed them from it; her Instagram account is restricted to minors because she doesn't want them interacting with her; she tried to restrict her Tumblr too (but Tumblr doesn't have that feature).
 
If this is true she has to rethink her life choices. But I'm more inclined to believe it never happened because it's too weird to be true.

so confused why would she join and send songs to the group of people who were dedicated to finding all her old music and were already posting it online?? like isnt it the same one with a bunch of white silas pfps and usernames

she was obviously comfortable sharing those songs with a small group of fans, however long ago. god knows why. but she had since made it clear that she did not want any of them to leak and i personally believe her change in perspective should be respected. it is her work and ultimately she is allowed to feel frustrated and to comment on it
 
unfortunately, it’s no longer just about a few songs that she shared herself. EVERY SINGLE privated song going all the way back to when she was 18 was downloaded 
not to mention the rest of the weird deranged behavior of whoever hacked her

I don’t fully agree with this. Like yes the parasocial part but it’s normal to not hope for private things to leak. It’s actually possible to have sympathy for someone that you don't know. But on the other hand, if something leaks and it’s out there then nobody is stopping you from listening to it.

leaker drama featuring ego tripping people in private discord servers again

yes-- sex change, born to die, and teddy were all available at some point. on the other hand hayden did upload a bunch of demos of songs for her team under private links only so those were never available publicly. currently for sure is the only one of those that's leaked but there were a bunch more so hopefully those never leak. (luckily those arent passed at all)
 
only one song leaked that hayden shared on discord; it was brood x (leaked by someone in the groupchat she shared in who got mad after being kicked for being weird) 

side note, skinheads leaked because an old fan hayden sent it to ages ago shared it with the group of three people i mentioned before and they leaked it (hayden did share it in the discord chat but it was a different file that leaked)

just an update: childish behavior was the real name for perverts before it released but it looks like all the tracks that have leaked recently are fake
teddy, btd, and sex change were all leaked by a group of 3 people who got the files after the soundcloud links were taken down. basically a LOT of people had them and they were spreading v quick and somehow the files made their way to them. the files were originally obtained via someone who hacked into haydens soundcloud and downloaded all the private shit on there (this is also how the for sure file was obtained) and the private soundcloud links were spread to a couple people and those people gave it to others and so on. so no, the people who leaked the files were not the people who hacked her, but the files were obtained by hacking. (also the people who hacked her google drive are different from both of those groups, so the whole posy was about like 3 groups of people)