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On 11/8/2024 at 5:38 AM, That Venice Bitch said:

Belittle the non-voters! There are many, many, MANY more of them!


Or….. to quote George Carlin :silly:

 

“For myself, I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way. On Election Day, I stay home. Two reasons: first of all, voting is meaningless; this country was bought and paid for a long time ago. That empty shit they shuffle around and repackage every four years doesn’t mean a thing. Second, I don’t vote, because I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. I know some people like to twist that around and say, ‘If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain.’ But where’s the logic in that? Think it through: If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they screw things up, then you’re responsible for what they’ve done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote—who, in fact, did not even leave the house on Election Day—am in no way responsible for what these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created. Which I had nothing to do with. Why can’t people see that?”


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30 minutes ago, Smoqueed said:


Or….. to quote George Carlin :silly:

 

“For myself, I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way. On Election Day, I stay home. Two reasons: first of all, voting is meaningless; this country was bought and paid for a long time ago. That empty shit they shuffle around and repackage every four years doesn’t mean a thing. Second, I don’t vote, because I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. I know some people like to twist that around and say, ‘If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain.’ But where’s the logic in that? Think it through: If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they screw things up, then you’re responsible for what they’ve done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote—who, in fact, did not even leave the house on Election Day—am in no way responsible for what these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created. Which I had nothing to do with. Why can’t people see that?”

i dont agree with this- but it’s an interesting perspective! if you haven’t voted you are as much to blame for any political candidate getting in imo. it’s not one or the other to me. but i suppose that would depend what you’re complaining about 


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45 minutes ago, Smoqueed said:


Or….. to quote George Carlin :silly:

 

“For myself, I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way. On Election Day, I stay home. Two reasons: first of all, voting is meaningless; this country was bought and paid for a long time ago. That empty shit they shuffle around and repackage every four years doesn’t mean a thing. Second, I don’t vote, because I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. I know some people like to twist that around and say, ‘If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain.’ But where’s the logic in that? Think it through: If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they screw things up, then you’re responsible for what they’ve done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote—who, in fact, did not even leave the house on Election Day—am in no way responsible for what these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created. Which I had nothing to do with. Why can’t people see that?”

This is what I agree with and think as well. If I am taking part in the voting, im deliberatley causing the problem knowingly then I am the problem.

For me nobody should be voting, voting should decrease down to meaningless levels or people should be protesting instead of voting until change is brought about.

When you are voting just now, you are knowingly voting for liars and pretty much scum who you wouldn't even let into your own home or let babysit your own kids or look after your family members. But letting them decide what to do on your behalf, knowing they won't even do what you want and will make zero impact other than fucking things up more and most likely stealing and taking more money to do what other people tell them to do.

The public should be at minimum chasing and harrassing politicians out of their jobs by now, knowing the whole system has been fucked up and the public basically don't control anything. As long as too many people are still voting then nothing will be done.

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Do we think that the election was rigged? It seems extremely off to me like completely nothings right and trump and Elon are so extremely weird rn

 

not to be a conspiracy theorist but since it was announced trump won I’ve had a deep feeling that it’s rigged and Kamala will actually win and be president but that’ll also trigger some crazy shit 

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On 11/10/2024 at 7:20 AM, Nectar Of The Puss said:

Do we think that the election was rigged? It seems extremely off to me like completely nothings right and trump and Elon are so extremely weird rn

 

not to be a conspiracy theorist but since it was announced trump won I’ve had a deep feeling that it’s rigged and Kamala will actually win and be president but that’ll also trigger some crazy shit 

That’s what I’ve been saying to give myself some kind of hope.

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On 11/10/2024 at 7:20 AM, Nectar Of The Puss said:

Do we think that the election was rigged? It seems extremely off to me like completely nothings right and trump and Elon are so extremely weird rn

 

not to be a conspiracy theorist but since it was announced trump won I’ve had a deep feeling that it’s rigged and Kamala will actually win and be president but that’ll also trigger some crazy shit 

No. The opposite side always thinks that


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On 11/10/2024 at 4:20 AM, Nectar Of The Puss said:

Do we think that the election was rigged? It seems extremely off to me like completely nothings right and trump and Elon are so extremely weird rn

 

not to be a conspiracy theorist but since it was announced trump won I’ve had a deep feeling that it’s rigged and Kamala will actually win and be president but that’ll also trigger some crazy shit 

I get what you feel but I don’t think it was…I think the truth is that the American people voted where their heart’s concern is (the economy) and the Democrats alienated the largest voter base——those who make between 50K and 100K annually. Bernie Sanders said it best: “It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them.” 
 

I obviously don’t agree with who was elected, but I accept the results. I get why people voted for him and it just goes to show that rhetoric around “fixing the economy” goes a long way. Even in the absence of any such policies! 

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54 minutes ago, IanadeIrey said:

I get what you feel but I don’t think it was…I think the truth is that the American people voted where their heart’s concern is (the economy) and the Democrats alienated the largest voter base——those who make between 50K and 100K annually. Bernie Sanders said it best: “It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them.” 
 

I obviously don’t agree with who was elected, but I accept the results. I get why people voted for him and it just goes to show that rhetoric around “fixing the economy” goes a long way. Even in the absence of any such policies! 

I agree with you. Now that it’s been a week I think I’m done with the catastrophic thinking and I don’t think it’ll be as bad as we all anticipate. 


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It wasn’t rigged. People showed up and voted for Trump and didn’t bother even voting down ballot, which is why Dems did better in senate and gubernatorial elections in the same states that Harris lost. That’s a “good” sign for Democrats that Trumpism probably ends with Trump. Trump-like figures like Kari Lake, Dr. Oz, and Mark Robinson continue to fail to get MAGA support. 2028’s Republican primary will be interesting. I have a feeling Nancy Mace could unexpectedly become a big player (and I don’t hate all her policies, as she’s more left-leaning socially than other GOP members). 
 

As far as this current incoming administration, ATP I just pray they don’t crash or tank the stock market (I hate to admit that the record highs of markets have helped me cope with the Harris loss a bit better), and are too busy infighting amongst themselves to pass any weird policies for women and LGBTQ+. 


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On 11/9/2024 at 8:00 AM, Smoqueed said:


Or….. to quote George Carlin :silly:

 

“For myself, I have solved this political dilemma in a very direct way. On Election Day, I stay home. Two reasons: first of all, voting is meaningless; this country was bought and paid for a long time ago. That empty shit they shuffle around and repackage every four years doesn’t mean a thing. Second, I don’t vote, because I firmly believe that if you vote, you have no right to complain. I know some people like to twist that around and say, ‘If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain.’ But where’s the logic in that? Think it through: If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent politicians, and they screw things up, then you’re responsible for what they’ve done. You voted them in. You caused the problem. You have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote—who, in fact, did not even leave the house on Election Day—am in no way responsible for what these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess you created. Which I had nothing to do with. Why can’t people see that?”

I disagree with this way of thinking entirely. It may seems like voting does nothing when neither of the options are perfect or the most ideal, but the point of voting was never to vote for the most perfect candidate that completely aligns with every single one of our ideals, but to vote for the best option.

"Don't let perfect be the enemy of good."

Also, I disagree that people who don't vote have the right to complain. They had the chance to vote and make an impact and instead they'd rather just sit it out and complain at home when it doesn't go their way? If you didn't vote and are upset about the way things went this election, then you know what you can do to try and change it? Vote in the next election.

Not just presidential elections, vote in local elections that directly affect you and the area you live in. Don't like any of the candidates in your local area? Why not try running yourself?

Around 244 million people were eligible to vote in the 2024 election and only about half of those people actually voted. Imagine where we would be if all 244 million of those people voted?

In 2020, Biden won two towns in Massachusetts by a single vote. We may not get much power to control what's happening around us, but voting is one of the few powers we have to change things. Why would anyone ever want to give that up?

Anyways, I know this quote probably wasn't meant to be taken that seriously (and I'm not directing this whole post at you) but I wanted to post this because this election showed that so many people didn't vote this time and look at where we are now...but maybe what I just wrote can convince some people to vote next time :oic3:


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Aside from the fact that the Supreme Court is super conservative, I wonder if we’re just in the mode of balance of power switching every 2-4 years. Think of it. Trump won in 2016, but then he lost 2020 and several of the off-year elections
 

Americans as a whole just never seem to be pleased with politicians. Favorability ratings for most of them are quite low. Our attention spans are short. As soon as someone’s been in office for a few years, we get tired of them. 
 

My point is, maybe the silver lining is that the Dems can win back some power in 2026 and assuming we have an actual primary with a clear winner, maybe we can win back the presidency in 2028?

 

I’m trying to find something to be positive about. It’s been a rough week. 
 

I’m hearing that supposedly JD Vance is the defacto candidate for 2028, but are we sure about that? I almost think that the only way the republicans run away with the next election is if Don Jr runs :toofunny: or if some other wacko populist emerges. Vance just seems very uncharismatic. Without Trump, he’d still be a nobody. Who knows. 


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4 hours ago, fishtails said:

Anyways, I know this quote probably wasn't meant to be taken that seriously


That’s correct; well put though :)

 

Mr Carlin’s logic was however completely sound in my opinion, and he was bang on with his first reason. 


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Decision Desk reported today that it's likely Republicans will control the senate, house, and congress.

With the cult of MAGA sitting on the throne of the supreme court, im sure we can't really compare what's going on in the world to history anymore.

You can probably forget about dismantling the electoral college and removing term limits for SC justices for decades to come.


These are scary unprecedented signs.

 

I still cannot believe how MAGA virtually swept the ENTIRE election. Its disgusting. It will go down as a foul shit stain on the history of America and even the world.
Another 4 years of an administration willing to set dangerous unheard of precedent is something that concerns the entire world. See nearly every election on a global scale since 2020.

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