The Right Person Will Stay - Pre-Release Thread (OUT: May 21st, 2025)

[barttttender 5,202]

1 hour ago, Make me your Dream Life said:

Idk I kinda like her phone voice demos but I also understand that she’s capable of a whole different sound. I personally wouldn’t mind it 

 

Please no more voice demos. Can't imagine anything lazier for a musician to do. It's like a writer publishing their voice memos where they literally told a random story that popped into their head without story- nor sentence- level editing. It's a fine experiment for a song or two, but we've done that, we have it in the can, let's move on.

 

 

[Pico Ocean Boulevard 41,309]

I would be even happy right now if she just posted a BTS photo from one of the studio sessions or something

I know the NFR snippet era was hell and it was kinda annoying to hear so much from the album beforehand but at least she seemed very exciting about her work and I kinda miss that feeling, especially with COCC and BB she seemed so over them when she announced them :/ not saying I want snippets all over again but she could post BTS Studio photos or video , the same Henry snippet again just filming her listening and singing along etc. 

But at least in the announcement post she seemed somewhat grateful and happy to present us the album but yeah the whole what can I say now thing and silence was saddening

 

[Vertimus 9,661]

11 hours ago, heroindealer said:

Lana is there to create something unique with her sound and voice, not to create a show by throwing a belt after belt, but to make us appreciate the real essence, the process, the story and production, and I wholly love and appreciate that about her 

The last thing Lana could ever do is 'belt' vocally. I'm not talking about the style of singing but the vocal power and  range that allows someone like Aretha Franklin to sing the way she could when she chose to or a song requited it, or a Tina Turner, who could certainly 'belt,' or Linda Ronstadt.  

 

Lana is unique in her vision and approach, I agree.  

[Vertimus 9,661]

20 hours ago, Queen of the Rodeo said:

I agree too.

I also think though she sings the chorus of Shades of Cool quite unclearly, it’s still one of her best vocal performances on a song and for me and the older I get, I love the song even more. I’ve loved this song since I was 15 and now I’m almost 26! I once listened to an interview she did in the LFL era, where the interviewer said he’d never heard her sing so powerfully before (in reference to When The World Was At War…) and all I could think was that the shades of cool vocals were 100x better. 
 

I have thought that maybe Lana has developed some vocal damage over the years because her voice doesn’t have the depth it used to. I do think she consciously chooses to sing softer nowadays, but even her live performances have been weaker compared to her earlier years. 

I think she was more vocally daring and creative in earlier eras too. Since NFR!, she seems to 'just sing,' and her vocals, to my ear, sound more monotonous and have a centered, plainer quality. I still love her voice, but the vocal approach is not as interesting or as challenging as in eras past. I prefer the Lana that kept more distance between her self (or her 'real self') and the lyrics, vocals, and music. But I'll support whatever she does on principle (knock wood). 

[ChaoticLipster 24,723]

5 minutes ago, Vertimus said:

I think she was more vocally daring and creative in earlier eras too. Since NFR!, she seems to 'just sing,' and her vocals, to my ear, sound more monotonous and have a centered, plainer quality. I still love her voice, but the vocal approach is not as interesting or as challenging as in eras past. I prefer the Lana that kept more distance between her self (or her 'real self') and the lyrics, vocals, and music. But I'll support whatever she does on principle (knock wood). 

I believe it is deliberate because that style of vocals is easier for her to perform with, I also think it’s why she has a lot more slower piano based songs because those are not as challenging as singing something like off to the races for example.  She seems more comfortable when she’s sat in a piano taking her time than up and around dancing or trying to belt out a song. 

[Waimea Bay 9,591]

I think "The Right One Will Stay" is a much better title then we have

[Vertimus 9,661]

21 minutes ago, ChaoticLipster said:

I believe it is deliberate because that style of vocals is easier for her to perform with, I also think it’s why she has a lot more slower piano based songs because those are not as challenging as singing something like off to the races for example.  She seems more comfortable when she’s sat in a piano taking her time than up and around dancing or trying to belt out a song. 

That may be accurate, but as I see it, it's putting the cart before the horse, trading in the immediate for her legecy. In fifty years, I don't think it's songs like Let Me Love You Like A Woman or Love Song that are going to be remembered, covered by artists of future eras, or become a part of the wider culture.

 

But then almost everything goes into the dustbin of history anyway, so maybe she's right to do what is most comfortable for her. 

10 minutes ago, Waimea Bay said:

I think "The Right One Will Stay" is a much better title then we have

Full agree—or The Right Man Will Stay, presuming she's completely or  predominatly romantically interested in men. Person is so clumsy, it sounds like an awkward attempt to get around naming a gender. 

[Fuck Our Generation 776]

2 minutes ago, Vertimus said:

That may be accurate, but as I see it, it's putting the cart before the horse, trading in the immediate for her legecy. In fifty years, I don't think it's songs like Let Me Love You Like A Woman or Love Song that are going to be remembered, covered by artists of future eras, or become a part of the wider culture

I don't think that's the point. Making songs so as to be remembered seems so shallow to me. Let me love you like a woman and love song are two of her weakest songs, but ballads like did you know that... sound legendary, to me at least. I don't think that the type of songs she sings is the problem, I believe it's the production.

[Vertimus 9,661]

1 minute ago, Fuck Our Generation said:

I don't think that's the point. Making songs so as to be remembered seems so shallow to me. Let me love you like a woman and love song are two of her weakest songs, but ballads like did you know that... sound legendary, to me at least. I don't think that the type of songs she sings is the problem, I believe it's the production.

I'm not advocating for Lana to purposefully attempt to write songs that will become classics or songs that will enter the American Songbook. Obviously, that would be folly and a losing formula and has been since the rise of the idea of the popular song. For every Moon River or Shadow of Your Smile there are no doubt thousands of recorded songs that didn't even make a dent in the charts or the culture upon release. 

 

I've said here many times that I don't care for the production on most of NFR! and OB. To me, of her last four albums, the new tracks on BB, which JA didn't produce, sound best to my ears.   

[Queen of the Rodeo 150]

53 minutes ago, Vertimus said:

The last thing Lana could ever do is 'belt' vocally. I'm not talking about the style of singing but the vocal power and  range that allows someone like Aretha Franklin to sing the way she could when she chose to or a song requited it, or a Tina Turner, who could certainly 'belt,' or Linda Ronstadt.  

 

Lana is unique in her vision and approach, I agree.  

I see what you’re saying, it’s hard to compare Lana to those individuals because of the time and music background being quite different. Lana isn’t much of a soul/gospel singer at heart. Don’t you think that Lana definitely can belt though? Especially when she used to cover heart shaped box, she just chooses not to use her full range anymore for some reason, she has the abilities she’s just not always utilising them anymore.

[Vertimus 9,661]

14 minutes ago, Queen of the Rodeo said:

I see what you’re saying, it’s hard to compare Lana to those individuals because of the time and music background being quite different. Lana isn’t much of a soul/gospel singer at heart. Don’t you think that Lana definitely can belt though? Especially when she used to cover heart shaped box, she just chooses not to use her full range anymore for some reason, she has the abilities she’s just not always utilising them anymore.

Well, Heart-Shaped Box is a good example, but I think they are few. Belting is just not her style or an approach she's used or seems a part of her essence as an artist. I'm referring to her vocal range more than I am her style (it was another member who thought I was referring to belting).

 

I saw Linda Ronstadt in concert years ago in an enormous audotorium not known for its acoustics, which she opened with Lose Again, one of her much older songs, and her voice was powerful and crystal clear. It was one of those moments where you could imagine a crsytal goblet shattering just from her voice. Tori Amos has that sort of voice too.

 

That's what I'm underscoring—Lana does not have that kind of voice, her voice and range are more in the Stevie Nicks-Debbie Harry category. 

[Queen of the Rodeo 150]

3 minutes ago, Vertimus said:

I'm not advocating for Lana to purposefully attempt to write songs that will become classics or songs that will enter the American Songbook. Obviously, that would be folly and a losing formula and has been since the rise of the idea of the popular song. For every Moon River or Shadow of Your Smile there are no doubt thousands of recorded songs that didn't even make a dent in the charts or the culture upon release. 

 

I've said here many times that I don't care for the production on most of NFR! and OB. To me, of her last four albums, the new tracks on BB, which JA didn't produce, sound best to my ears.   

I do really like NFR! and some of the songs on that album resonate a lot with me. But production wise I have to agree. People say it’s her magnum opus but hello UV exists!!! That’s her best album in my opinion. Never tired of that album, always find something new when I listen to it. As someone who makes music, I think UV is her most exciting and it inspires me a lot in my own creative endeavours

[Queen of the Rodeo 150]

5 hours ago, barttttender said:

 

Please no more voice demos. Can't imagine anything lazier for a musician to do. It's like a writer publishing their voice memos where they literally told a random story that popped into their head without story- nor sentence- level editing. It's a fine experiment for a song or two, but we've done that, we have it in the can, let's move on.

 

 

She should leave the memos for the creative process not the product 

[Bonita 12,664]

33 minutes ago, Waimea Bay said:

I think "The Right One Will Stay" is a much better title then we have

 

Honestly the title we have now is a perfect follow up to Ocean Blvd's now iconic title with the parody potential

[evalionisameme 13,899]

I haven’t posted here in ages but I’ll tune in for one or two of her songs- I greatly dislike all the leads since MAC even though that one was slightly cute. Anyone expecting differentiation in sound is a tad delusional- expect it to lean breaking up slowly with more piano ballads, muted vocals and selfie pictures edited to have a border on her FaceTune app.

The breaking up slowly part will be the country- leaning sounds.

[Rock Candy 1,826]

Well, I'm just fine with everything.

No more, no less, it's just that everything goes on as usual

At least we'll get a good album 

 

The title of the album is full of serenity and acceptance that not everything is under our control, but we can and should always believe in the best!

 

I like the credo, which at the end of May becomes the new basis of my personality 

[Vertimus 9,661]

8 hours ago, Queen of the Rodeo said:

I do really like NFR! and some of the songs on that album resonate a lot with me. But production wise I have to agree. People say it’s her magnum opus but hello UV exists!!! That’s her best album in my opinion. Never tired of that album, always find something new when I listen to it. As someone who makes music, I think UV is her most exciting and it inspires me a lot in my own creative endeavours

The way you feel about UV is the way I feel about most of the tracks on Paradise.

 

Maybe the recent vocal style is the result of maturity, who knows—she's been singing about children and family, about watching TV and doing the laundry-- she's been mellower on NFR!, COCC, BB, and a lot of OB. She's singing more naturalistically and in a more relaxed manner, which is, to my ears, also less creative.  

[evalionisameme 13,899]

Expect one song to have a beat of something reminiscent of trap, hip hop or trip hop even if it’s very muted in the background too- this is a definite on every project except UV.

[Vertimus 9,661]

4 minutes ago, Bonita said:

 

Honestly the title we have now is a perfect follow up to Ocean Blvd's now iconic title with the parody potential

I agree with that. 

[BethDufreneOnTheBayouByYou 9,373]

She could shut some people up if she posted a clip driving her car, leg on the wheel, bumping to the Fenway Park intro