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There are better producers than Max Martin out there... but she'll never want to achieve a hit that way. Essentially I think she tried with HBTB by working with her own producers/her own terms but it didn't work. I think she'll just keep trying. On a side note, I hope we have LDR4/5 by the time this thread hits 4k posts.

Like I think Honeymoon is a good album but only when I'm extremely sad.. if she goes any darker/cinematic horror (she probably will as she lives for it) I'm afraid I'll be listening to her less and less. Most of the time the album makes me feel even worse off than I was before. UV was the perfect combination of having a sad theme but with a sound that still uplifted you.

I'm so baffled by it too, after all this time. Those comments Lorde made about lana in the beginning of her career don't make quite sense if she's friends with Taylor. Taylor and Lana lowkey have the same type of aesthetic when it comes to writing, just different styles. Like Taylor has that desperate want for a guy too... for example the new soundtrack song where she won't stop calling his name until he comes back home. She's a hypocrite..

Same! Didn't know people listened to her to escape from it, because I actually feel like she addresses my life head-on. And helps me cope.

Super excited for the album too... and people think nobody cares about her anymore since it's been 4 years. She's one of those artists who with promotion and exposure/letting people know that she has an album out soon, they'll gladly be engaged and buy it if it's great. Although I'm scared on what she thinks because she also said that ZAYN/Taylor is some of the best music she's heard as well.. and well... it's not, lol.

She's doing alternative pop now, while working with St.Vincent's producer. She could very well be releasing an amazing album.. And let's stay quiet about the cover because we might get one that's worse than honeymoon (it's just so ugly), this at least has a great shade of green...lol

Guns and Roses (I really hate to nominate this song because I love the verses and the bridge is fantastic) Burning Desire DLMBM The Other Woman

My biggest fear is Lana releasing an folk or country album...

Wow I had no idea... strange .. I could've sworn she did so many for U.K./Europe bc they were obsessed with her after BTD and she did like 2 years non-stop Well if you l go by total shows it's 87 vs 74 shows so not huge difference..

She's toured way more in Europe/UK 2012-2013 and then 2016.. literally US was only 2015 and little bit of 2016, lol. And now Europe festival dates in 2017? But I think she'll give US dates too since most of her cash comes from us now. But Idk if I care anymore if she doesn't play new songs. I'm so tired of this set list.

But the album has to come out before August.. she always releases before the festival and what better time than spring/summer?

I'd love for the first single to be out in April, and the album by June. The drought might almost be over.

You guys should definitely prepare yourselves for an album with a sound that has a similar aesthetic to Honeymoon. And if it won't, then you'll be even more merrier.

You don't intend to reach the charts as an artist, lol. If it happens, then it happens. And she didn't like the shit that came along with it. Signing a contract with a major label is one thing, but becoming a successful artist is also got do a whole lot with luck too. If interscope has artists that release albums that sell even worse and haven't gotten rid of them, then there's no reason for them to get rid of lana before her contract ends. That's probably what gave her the ammunition to release Honeymoon. Or we're just being too damn critical and she wants to make slow records that put her fans to sleep. If that's what she feels her element is, and if that's Fiona to her then let it be. It's too early to tell as this is truly her only slow record but it seems to be a trend. I feel like she's preparing us for until she becomes indie. She could very well only have a 4-5 album deal and that's maybe what her reasoning was behind the early releases? That is what I think and there's no reason to roast me but her hating her fake and staying lowkey is why I even think this in the first place.

Beginning of 2017 better be when the new magazine photoshoots come rolling in w/ interviews and information about the new album.. I'm sure that's what she's finishing off as she's been way too quiet since March of 2015. Please Steven convince her to work w/ you..

yeah she's christmas shopping.. lol :|

I said what you said, my posts are longer so I don't even know if people are bothering to read what I'm saying. I admit that lana will flop more and more because she's not promoting or putting enough effort in her visuals like before. My point was that if she changed her mind and did decide to care like she used to and ignore the media backlash, then she can easily be on top. I agree with you! There are people on here that underestimate her star power though. And I know we don't care about Fiona apple is but that's literally what she's aiming for, she never dared to be as famous as she was in 2012-2014... that remix ruined her plans of wanting to have a small fanbase. This is why I feel like the new record will still be slow UNLESS she really wants to be on top again and makes something more upbeat. Lana only pays attention to what the critics and magazines say.... if she sees that there's an upwards trend in her scores after making her albums more slow and more melancholy then I feel like that's the route she's going to take. I think she just feels more respected this way and is scared to get out of her bubble. That is all.

Totally.. and she's not even going to change for the next era. She already admitted she's just going to continue the story.. I still don't sense a decline in her career though because her music is POPPY and people are gonna buy that because they can bop to it.

The numbers are all over the place but when a big artist comes in the picture and releases a great single with great promo then it's a much higher number, lol. I understand what you're saying.. but you made it seem like Lana doesn't have the power to attract all her old fans back. When in fact she can, it's like you're underestimating what she can do. What she WANTS to do is a totally different story though.. she is still capable.

This is exciting! Time for new and fresh material.. although y'all Neil Krug's material during the UV era was amazing. Too much unnecessary hate Screaming.. the alternative UV album cover and HM official cover were both tragic. D: But her work with Big Sean and YG were amazing in all honesty. NM the photo is 1 year old

Our expectations of her sales aren't low if she would just try again but she isn't. So in a way you are right.

Exactly... I literally laughed at those comments. The only reason she's doing better than lana at this point is because she's MILKING the era by making a music video for every single song off the album and is touring EVERYWHERE. The industry isn't changing as drastically as they say it is, Lana just changed b/c of the media backlash from everything of that era. It's like people don't know how to put two to two together. I'm surprised to know that half of her stans don't know much about her or her reasoning behind all the toning down. Our girl already DID all of that and isn't bothered because that's simply not the type of music she wants to make anymore. Have you even heard the music she's inspired by? Fiona Apple has extremely slow music and I think that's what Lana's going for... to achieve that critical acclaim and is compared to people like her instead of major artists. And 600K sales w/ 200M streams IMO is not BAD for an album like Honeymoon. People underestimate her so much and it's crazy. She still has that star power and always will, if she cares to bring it back then she can be on top (except that she doesn't care about the spotlight so why should we..)

Well for something to be a game changing album I think she would have to change her style at least a little bit and not have songs with a tempo as low as the ones on honeymoon.. honestly I just want songs with great lyrics again and that takes time. HM has tragic lyrics at some points. Paradise has her best lyrics, and UV lyrics are very good too.

the only reason her decline was so drastic was due to her lack of promotion and decline in visuals. That is a sad truth because like she's menioned many times before she doesn't care about money or being in the spotlight. People loved her BECAUSE of those visuals. They related to her and to the music. I got more than one right thing as it is my opinion. People still check for her on twitter even when all she does is a simple tweet or a simple Instagram post. All she has to do is release another upbeat album and amazing new visuals and the whole GP with be up HER ass. That's just the tea.