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LA I sold my life rights for a big check and i'm upset and now i can't sleep at night and i don't know why plus i love sax/sex(?) so why did I do that when I know it won't last LA I picked San Francisco because the man who doesn't love me lives there LA I'm pathetic but so are you can I come home now? daughter to no one, table for one party of thousands of people I don't know at delilah where my ex husband works i'm sick of this but can I come home now? mother to no one, private jets

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If I ever said December it was an honest mistake. Do the research and let me know! Maybe it's your memory.

I Can Fly, Shades Of Cool, Sad Girl, Your Girl, Is This Happiness, Fine China and Say Yes To Heaven were all worked on with Rick Nowels in November 2013.

But was I reaching, your honor https://twitter.com/delreyxmafia/status/1162095675183702017 https://twitter.com/jackantonoff/status/1162161029805170689

Thank fucking God. Good night.

The only reason I haven't shared that masterpost here is purely because this exact drama happened around the time I was planning on sharing it and it turned me off from this forum once again and I stopped posting actively. The masterpost was shared with people who contacted me about it on Twitter. I tried that as well, how many times shit happened without me being involved or posting? I AM TIRED OF OTHER PEOPLE DEFENDING ME AND GETTING WARNING POINTS BECAUSE OF ME SO I CAME HERE TO DEFEND MYSELF AND I'M TRYING TO BE SILENCED. Where are you to tell people to stop hating on me and causing drama? I don't start any of this. I don't even post here anymore.

The tea on Hope was this past January. And some of the leaks I made were from just late last year. All of you talk shit about me for pages and you expect me to just sit quietly and take it all? I get tired of seeing people having to defend me against all of you, all of my friends DMing me "oh lb is talking shit about you again", I'm sure everyone is fucking tired of the same drama already. You call me everything from pedo to narcissist attention seeker and I don't get to reply back? Yeah nobody is making me do it, but will you shut the fuck up? And not just you, everyone on this drama. Been there, done that. I've tried to be a part of this forum and take part in the conversations in this very thread (and so many other artist threads) earlier this year. All I received was more drama, more people calling me a pedo and attention seeker in the end. Here's one simple example: http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/10278-norman-fucking-rockwell-pre-release-thread/page-1526&do=findComment&comment=759145 You are free to go through my posts and see the ratio of someone trying to blend in, take part in the convos vs. someone arrogant. All of you are rude af.

Resistance BBM Baby Roses I Want It All Pussycat Kittycat Super Movie My Song 57 Off to The Races (Mix 9) Dance For Money Yes To Heaven and Fine China (original files) Brite Lites (Demo) Y&B (Acapella) + Billboard photoshoot outtake + http://lanaboards.com/index.php?/topic/7777-more-snippets-big-info-post-part-i/&do=findComment&comment=343004 Dozens more high quality files that couldn't be obtained from anywhere else. Information that people were begging for years to find out. Lyrics, length and more information from the releases of High By The Beach, Terrence Loves You (lyrics from both of these songs were posted by me weeks before release in 2015), Honeymoon album trailer, Love, Best American Record (and no I absolutely did not ruin a single thing about Lust For Life), Hope Is A Dangerous Thing. Songs that were given to other people by me and posted w/o my permission: Every Man Gets His Wish (v2) BBM Baby (Demo) Be My Daddy UV outtakes Beautiful People demo Are these all substantial enough information and leaks for you? Please for god's sake shut the fuck up about me. Everyone is tired.

no surprises ain't real it was a cover by some random girl passed around as lana bye bye

Me Me and @lmdr We're gonna run to the party Dance to the rhythm it gets harder

This person really compared a 15 year old with some unleaked as having "power and leverage" over the internet to other teenagers around his age to actual adults who seriously abuse and prey on children, creating long lasting damage to their mental and emotional health. My conscience is clear knowing that I have caused no serious damage to anyone online because of some mp3 files. Jesus Christ. I'm out.

I put his ass on my ignore list so hopefully whatever BS he will write in the future will not show up. I expected much more maturity, understanding and empathy from someone with that profession. He can't even think to himself for a second, maybe they are making shit up about this person to kill his reputation which is what happened many times over the years. I've had people impersonating me just as recent as last week to get in Discord servers and act shitty to give me a bad rep. I've had people making Instagram and Twitter accounts posting every bit of personal information about me and my family, where I live, my pictures etc. to "destroy" me. I'm finally standing up and defending myself after 3 years of endless drama and attacks for a nasty cunt to tell me to stop acting like a victim when he apparently works with victims.

I'm halfway through to get my bachelor's in Computer Science in one of the best unis in the world and I won't even need to have a Master's degree to make 6 figures straight after graduating. If you're so smart you could've made the logical conclusion that a 15 year old teenage boy couldn't have done anything over the internet to other teenage boys the way you are implying. The way you speak is disgusting, talking like I was some 30 year old sexually harassing teenagers. You have a master's yet your common sense is nowhere to be found. I didn't force myself onto anyone or used power on them. You're a nasty person with nothing to do but spread pure hate on people younger than you on an internet forum. Aren't you mid 20s if you have a Master's? I suggest you get a life immediately and I don't mean that because you have a lot of posts and online time here. We all have social media and forum activity. I say that because you are in your mid 20s talking a lot of bullshit and hating on people much younger than you. Act your age. If a person does not like the other and they are not 12, they should simply ignore them, especially online when you can block/mute or simply do not comment on someone's actions. If you are opening your mouth to talk shit every opportunity you get, you have ISSUES. So I suggest you keep your mouth shut because I will be tweeting whatever the fuck I want on Twitter and I will be defending myself whenever I want. It hasn't been a month since the last one and some people truly have nothing better to do.

It's not a fact it was made up by someone who is not active on this forum anymore and she admitted herself later she made it up to give me a bad rep. I was 15 years old when those rumors started appearing, how does it make sense? I was underaged myself! Can you all not put 2 and 2 and think that if I gave anyone mp3 for nude pictures they would've spread like wildfire and leak within a week?? Y'all just want to cling onto any reason to justify your unfounded or outdated hate for me. I tried to be silent about it so people would forget and move on from how stupid these accusations are but it's never ending. Once someone is over the age of 18 and even before that, accusing them of pedophilia can have real consequences on their life, career, mental health etc. Wrongly accusing people got them killed or jailed many times before. Think before you open your fucking mouth Lanaboards

I'll make sure to do it more in the future to piss off the dumb dumbs here who don't understand a joke. It would have been as simple as tagging me and asking if it was a joke or do I actually have Cinammon, I would've answered nicely and we would move on but instead I find 3 pages of people having meltdowns over a tweet, calling me a pedo again, hating for no reason. I tried to be very nice & friendly on here, make peace with everyone and have a good time but it's impossible. It's infuriating.

Guess the rounds of attacking her friends, her label, her managers, her poetry, Chuck, the lying psychics, her boyfriend and Elizabeth herself are over and it's back to Eclipse. I do love being put in the centre of attention by the same people who hate my attention-seeking.

You guys are really something else... I'm always direct and clear when I have something. It was just a stupid lyric play that I do ALL THE TIME. And yeah I definitely love seeking attention when all I get is "leak X", "you're a pedo" and similar hateful comments from the same set of low IQ members who simply has nothing to do but to lose their mind on this thread & attack everyone and everything. The jealousy reeking... Fuck off from my Twitter and don't read my tweets if you don't like me. Simple as that. How many times... What's not clicking???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD85HZQwwWw lyrics in the description

Made another comment about this on ATRL that I'd like to copy here while we are still on topic: The problem is not the content, it's the filter she's putting the songs through or rather the lack of. She made songs before that are positive, happy and about enjoying life AND still kept the Marina touch in them. Most of those songs would not be fit for any X pop singer, but the songs on this album are. The lyrical content is very abstract and general. Is she writing about her life? Sure. But the ideas that pour onto the paper remain like sentences composed together from a group of any people, opposed to being her specific life experiences. The lyrics are surface level, there's a lack of detail. Let's take Karma and Better Than That for example. She talks about a specific person or a type of people in both of the songs, saying they will get what's coming for them, they're bad people etc. Compare the way she wrote both of the songs. The verses and bridge for Better Than That are so detailed and specific. When I first got the demo of Karma, I had absolutely no idea it was about "men in power". She could have written something very powerful with that concept, yet she remained abstract and gave a generalized version that could have been written/sung by a teen pop artist. To answer your question, yes they are both early tracks.

Said the same thing yesterday to @@wraith and @@electra With Lana's "bad" songs, you can tell they have been written by her and it's her unique sound and style. They feel authentic. Most of LOVE + FEAR could have been released by... someone like Dua Lipa. You can't feel Marina's touch in (probably more than) half of the album. Starting with The Family Jewels, she always had an idea and desire to write about something specific. She always knew what she wanted to do that, of course not 100%, she changed directions and came up with new ideas and discarded old ones as she continued with the writing but that's just the creative process. It doesn't matter that how many producers and co-writers were on Electra Heart, she had the bulk of it down and needed people to fill the gaps. With TFJ and especially EH there were a lot more people but with FROOT she only had the help of one producer to help her out. With this album, she definitely had a creative block. She wrote some songs in 2016 and 2017 but she did not go in to this process having an idea of what she wanted to do. She was drained from all the touring. She didn't even know if she wanted to make an album. She probably started to feel a little pressure in 2018 to do a record (because you know, fans and contract obligations) but she was still confused about what to do. That's when she ended up taking a trip to Sweden, working with Clean Bandit again, working with BROODS. She just had fun writing camps with musicians who ended up doing the bulk of the album for her, instead of filling the gaps. She is a musician too, she wrote and came up with melodies as much as they did but she did not go into that studio with "I want to do THIS, help me do it" like she did with her previous albums. Her approach was more like "Uhm I have this thing but idk what do you guys have/think" and that's why the album sounds like something that could be sung by any UK or Scandinavian pop artist. She took every sound, every melody, every production detail without thinking twice "is this authentically me? is this what I want to make and release?". She took whatever sounded at least decent, fresh and maybe 'radio/chart fit'. She wanted to finish an album as quickly as possible after making only a handful of songs before 2018. She made 20+ songs and picked what she thought was the best and slapped some weak idea on it... and here we are. That's why I also have issues with some of the production changes and songs that didn't make the album. The outtakes are more authentically her than some of the tracks on the album. So yeah I'm rambling on a lot, it's up to you to decide if this is a good or bad album. For me, is it a good pop record that has delicious production and fun vibes, definitely yes. But is it an authentic MARINA album? Definitely not compared to her previous work. Is this gonna take away from my listening experience? Not really. Am I disappointed? Just a little bit, but I'll survive and see what her next record offers. If the next one is the same then that means she's just gonna serve up this now and I'll enjoy it for what it is.

Same here. It sounds so much like something I've heard before but I can't figure out what song.

BELIEVE IN LOVE 4/5 - What a great song to pick up where EOTE left. Definitely feels like a continuation of that song. The synths and drums build up to such an emotional, nostalgic chorus. I wish the mood of Fear was more like this song. LIFE IS STRANGE 2.5/5 - Although the cello sounds amazing and the melody is reminiscent of The Family Jewels, the chorus falls flat and brings the song down immensely. Even though the watered down lyrics is common, you can really feel the 'basicness' in the chorus of this one. YOU 2.5/5 - Picking this song for the album was one thing, completely butchering it is unacceptable. It was average before, but it had a punch, it was a banger. Now it could be to soundtrack to a minimalist vlogger's vid. The tropical chill vibes are not it. KARMA 3/5 - Another completely new production. It gave the song the punch it needed, unlike YEW!. Some new vocal takes, new drop. Feels fresh. I like this song, sits somewhere in the middle for me. Great summer's bop. Didn't need the trap percussion. EMOTIONAL MACHINE 4/5 - Always loved and defended this song. It has that weird Marina feel to it. Subtly improved from the demo, they added some new drums which fit the song and elevates it. The live version never did it justice. TOO AFRAID 4.5/5 - Just like Emotional Machine, this has always been a favourite of mine and subtly improved from the demo. Has my favourite lyrics of the whole album, you can really feel the bittersweetness. It was rarely talked about before release and it will definitely be the underrated gem of the record. NO MORE SUCKERS 3/5 - This is around the level of Karma for me. You can tell the lyrical content is inspired by her psychology course, talking about deeply rooted patterns and picking the wrong partners. The chorus is huge, what an earworm! SOFT TO BE STRONG 3.5/5 - This is a great song to end the album on. They, of course, added the trap percussion for the final mix whereas the demo is more acoustic. Still, it does not take away greatly from the song (unlike Superstar) and we end the album on a very sweet, hopeful note.

EM, Too Afraid, STBS and Karma are all improved and polished. You is a completely new song now and it's even worse than the demo. Went from an okay banger to a tropical chill ambience music that'd play in some minimalist vlogger's background. A few hours left for the official release.

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