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  1. The way that I Pray For Rain and Guardian both sound fresh even though they were recorded so long ago... I don't know why this girl is sitting on that kind of quality for so long 


  2. Yes to Charli collabing with rappers, no to slapping semi-trendy rappers on tracks with hopes for a chart placement or a quick hit.

    Also, this makes me think of BIOYL with Lizzo... Imagine an actual Charli x Lizzo collab and how cute that would be.


  3. Imagine Sky Ferreira releasing Masochism and getting a massively warm response, and she'd know she's loved... Being in the music industry since age 17, she's probably super self-critical and traumatized by the shady business that is a major record label, so I think whenever she releases an album it will hopefully spark some joy in her. I know we all would love it, die for it, etc.


  4. 9 hours ago, Hundred Dollar Bill said:

    I love seeing praise for End of the Earth... it’s def in my top 3 favorite Marina songs EVER. That song should’ve been the blueprint for the entire album & it could have been her best record... love in the midst of an apocalypse. The production also gives me some outer space vibes... it’s truly next level. Did anyone ever find which movie it was intended for? 

    never heard that it was intended for a movie, but it makes sense. Glad you see the outer space vibes too, it makes me feel like I'm in the cover after of Froot lol.


  5. 15 minutes ago, moonchild13 said:

    Yeah, I do want that too. She must have at least 15 tracks from this era. 

    And lowkey, I also wish we get the NMTM outtakes soon (Pretty Dull, Swamp Girl and the others)

    Is Swamp Girl confirmed different than Rancid Girl?

     I really want Not Alright


  6. Something I would like to see happen is a Charli x Meghan Trainor collab. It would be very cool if on the HIFN deluxe SOPHIE remixed p4u and added a Meghan verse.

    Kidding but imagine how many people would be furious.


  7. 8 minutes ago, Elle said:

    This is such an UnpopOpin, but I actually really love L+F & it's my second favourite Marina album :toofunny:  It makes me upset to see the constant bashing of it, I think it's lovely! I will say though, I think a lot of the dislike comes from it being such a long album, similar to how Lust for Life is received (which is also my 2nd favourite Lana album, 3rd though if we're including AKALG) I think it would've been much better received by fans if some of the tracks were excluded. There's so many highlights on the album, and if the tracklist was cut a bit shorter with some of the "filler" tracks removed, I feel that fans would've really loved it.

    I don't think I ever posted it here before, but here's my track ranking (which also seems to be unpopular), with #1 being my favourite track - 

      Reveal hidden contents

    1. End of the Earth

    2. Superstar

    3. Karma

    4. You

    5. Emotional Machine

    6. Believe in Love

    7. Life is Strange

    8. Enjoy Your Life

    9. Too Afraid

    10. Soft to be Strong

    11. To Be Human

    12. Handmade Heaven

    13. Baby

    14. Orange Trees

    15. True

    16. No More Suckers

     

    End of the Earth is one of Marina's discography highlights imo. Such a beautiful track and definitely the highlight of the record.


  8. 1 minute ago, Enchanted Mansion said:

    Like you, I hope for something a little crazy, like in her "and The Diamonds" period, but I think she doesn't want that anymore, she doesn't want to be an extravagant artist anymore ( judge the simple and basic name of Marina, the look, the more serious side and her age). I hope she won't lose all the magic and perfection that made her reputation that said, she can surprise us and take us far with little.

    I definitely agree that the "seriousness" or whatever we'll call it is a natural evolution. Tracks like Solitaire and Gold have definitely emphasized where Marina's mindset is coming out of the Electra Heart era. It all feels very natural and organic right now; it just feels like there are some growing pains in the unique qualities that we all adore, and maybe a delay for Marina getting into the right mindset to make music again. Plus, between Froot and L+F I'm sure Marina wasn't in the best mindset considering how everyone tried to meme her for being anti-technology, for being "broke", etc... So it makes sense that she was second guessing herself during the production. I think a strength of Marina's is that her psyche shows through in each of her releases, which felt very absent in L+F.

     

    12 minutes ago, veinsineon said:

    I mean I had been the kind of fan to only listen to a handful of songs before FROOT, 2015 was just a great year for concepts and FROOT was, and is, one of the strongest and most lavish concepts ever! THAT is what made me stan. It all started with I'm A Ruin believe it or not :flutter: and also a good friend who used to run @Lona.Delery and Merna Dimandis LOL

    Personally, I don't see Froot necessarily as conceptual as everyone else does, but I do enjoy how she put it all together as a personal album with a lovely aesthetic. Ultimately, though, I think that the Electra Heart era was a very "you-had-to-be-there" sort of era though...like yes, it is still enjoyable in hindsight, but I think the fanbase's hyper-critical view of Marina and her album concepts (namely, the L+F debate) is definitely a result of experiencing this rollout in real-time. I know personally at least I would not regard EH so highly if I hadn't seen the concept unfold in real-time. As I said in my response to Enchanted Mansion, I think Marina's psyche is very evident in her creative endeavors, and being a stan from the start-to-end of the era during EH allowed us to see a true psychological journey (that honestly many of us as teenagers were experiencing during our tumblr days) that feels unsurpassable. Without this bias, I would understand why L+F might not feel like such a drop in quality.

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    I do think the release strategies of EH and Froot were definitely ahead of their times. The PART 1: FEAR & LOATHING♡/Monthly Froot strategies are so unintentionally tailored for the 2020 style strategy of just dropping a bunch of singles to lead up to a drawn out album release.


  9. I totally get wanting to move away from the "Marina and the Diamonds" moniker considering it makes her sound like a band and definitely was something she thought up when she was really young and moody, but how do you have such an amazing last name like "Diamandis" and you go only by your first name?? Makes no sense to me aesthetically, but also from the record label's standpoint I don't know why they didn't urge her to go with that due to the other artists named "Marina". It would also give more recognition to people who don't follow enough to know that MATD is now Marina. And plus, she always seems so proud of her Greek culture, and using her surname of Diamonds in Greek would have been perfectly on brand for her.


  10. 21 minutes ago, CocainePrincess said:

    as weird as this may sound marina does best with funky production, she can be pop all she wants but her singing style is too out of the ordinary for simplistic mainstream production, even her attempts at making more mainstream music with EH was done flawlessly. primadonna's eccentric electro house production suits her exaggerated vocals so well,  TFJ is a good balance between solemn ballads and experimental pop rock which i think is best for her style, froot has vocal elements of classic marina which are brought to life with the 80s synth pop influence... and so on

    !!! This is very well put. This really is the reason why I prefer the You demo to the album cut, as it shows her vocal quirk a bit better. Emotional Machine almost goes there too, but the vocals are just so smoothed over in a way that we loose that Marina-ism that you get in earlier tracks. What I really think separates Marina from any old pop girl is her singing style. The glossiness/smoothness of the vocals are what really turns me off on L+F. It adds so much personality to the music and I feel like I would have received L+F so much better with vocals like her earlier works. When you read the lyrics to Karma, you wouldn't expect it to sound the way it does... lol

     

    1 minute ago, drewby said:

    No I think we'd still be having the same discussion even without EH in her discography. Froot was as least a fully realized concept when it came to promotion and it has lyrics that actually feel personal to her.

    L+F just feels like a faceless album she made because she was tired of singing about her personal experiences and honestly every artist has one of those so it's fine, but it was unexpected from someone who showed 3 albums of consistency and vision... and it certainly doesn't help people treat it like a high-brow artistic statement that we just didn't get. It's a (mostly) well-written album let down massively by the production, which sanded off all the quirks that make a Marina album a Marina album.

    We can hear that in the demo for You

    I wonder if those are the people who got into Marina with Froot...lol. Wasn't the Love vs Fear concept sort of last minute? If I recall correctly wasn't the album "Handmade Heaven" until not long before release...


  11. 3 minutes ago, Ultra Violet said:

    I wonder what has prompted her to revisit Badlands. I'm seriously interested in the psychology and memories behind it, so I hope she's okay, and hopefully maybe she wants to do it for her peace of mind or something, like facing her past to move forward

    Maybe she's felt the desire to build upon the concept after COVID-related isolation – leaving the isolation of staying home to escape in the Badlands for the duration of a creative project?


  12. Why does this feel like the first time an artist has ever revisited a concept/era after moving on. Living. Manic was cute, HFK was pretty, and Badlands was GORGEOUS. Would love to see a Badlands part 2 for H4. 

    The best parts of Manic were the sort of Badlands-esque feel of Ashley + Suga Interlude...


  13. 40 minutes ago, Bloody Valentine said:

    To be honest, I can't wait for her next album to be released. I just want this non ending L+F debate to stop. I want the album to slowly disappear from everyone's minds, so we can move on to a much better album/era.  Knowing her, she won't have her album released after 2 or 3 more years tho.

    I feel like if she doesn't release an album that is her magnum opus or whatever you'd call it, the debate will likely continue with the next album. Electra Heart being such a strong album in terms of sound (for the 2012 pop music climate), visuals, rollout, and concept (etc.) has definitely put the successive releases under a huge magnifying glass. If M had released TFJ -> Froot -> L+F, I doubt we'd be having this sort of debate, but EH has truly created a level of nostalgia and a level of quality that will always overshadow each successive release until she does it again. 

    In my heart, I do feel like M5 would have been out by now if it hadn't been for COVID... It felt that she was very ready to move on from L+F. But then again we all know how Marina loves to draw out an album release, huh.


  14. L+F could have done stupendously in her discography for me if it were an EP/mini-album.

    1. Handmade Heaven
    2. Superstar
    3. Enjoy Your Life
    4. To Be Human
    5. You (demo version)
    6. Emotional Machine
    7. Too Afraid
    8. End of the Earth
    9. Baby (bonus track)

    I think the biggest issue with L+F is just how bland the production is. There's a reason why Baby didn't age like the rest of the tracks. Some of the tracks like Superstar and End of the Earth would have so much more replay-ability for me if their production was touched by an angel. We need to some decadent, fresh-sounding production, or we need simply just piano and nothing else, that's where Marina does best.

    AND ALSO! She needs to release under Marina Diamandis. Who though MARINA would be a good name change?


  15. 27 minutes ago, bored said:

    So, I am currently obsessed with the new Miley Cyrus single, Midnight Sky. And I was thinking back to their live performance of We Can't Stop last year. Would people want a Charli XCX + Miley Cyrus collab?

    Also, what would it sound like? Right now, we're in peak autotune-Charli era. Whilst Miley has taken on a rock persona, Charli has dabbled with punk and would probably be capable. But I'm curious as to whether people would want something more like We Can't Stop or something like Midnight Sky?

     

    It would sound like SMS Bangerz but perfected 


  16. I think that the socialism/communism discussion is definitely off topic, considering that the 2020 election does not involve socialism/communism. This is an election between a far-right party and a center-right party. I definitely would have said in 2016 that the Democrats were a centrist party, but unfortunately the nomination of Biden definitely speaks to how the Democrats are moving more and more right with respect to class solidarity as their base moves more and more left.

    The Democratic strategy of appealing to right-leaning centrists just really does not make any sense to me. A centrists that leans would likely vote with the extremist of the same leaning rather than a centrist of an opposite leaning. We saw this with Trump in 2016. The moderate Republicans rejected Trump and Trumpism, but they ultimately voted with their party. The DNC should simply let a primary play out organically without actively trying to curtail the left-leaning candidate, as I'm sure the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho Brigade will vote with a progressive, left-leaning candidate to a greater extent than an uninspired progressive who feels excommunicated from the Democratic Party would vote for a center-right candidate like Biden.

    The DNC running a centrist over and over again is gonna start giving me "how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?" - the primary polls that look like Cuomo is going to be a rising star in 2024 do not sit right with my spirit. Also, though, progressives need to rally behind one candidate in 2024. I do think one of the greatest downfalls of the 2020 primary was simply the infighting between the Bernie/Warren supporters. Both of them were candidates with great policy stances and with personal flaws that were troubling, yet neither of which were as terrible as Biden...yet the infighting between these two progressive campaigns cost us a progressive nominee methinks. Meanwhile the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho crowd was very "bitches be like: I can't stand her fake ass... *candidate who they supported drops out* ...me & the bestie!!!" But anyways, I'd definitely support Nina Turner in a 2024 primary. 

    I just hope that the DNC isn't opening space in the Democratic Party to realign the party to include anti-Trump centrist Republicans meanwhile excluding progressive/left-leaning (former-)Democrats. If this is the ultimate goal of this seemingly near-sighted strategy, it makes me really worried that they're simply aiding the US in going towards the right, and allowing the Republican Party to open itself up to more and more right-wing extremists. We need a left-leaning candidate on the national, presidential-scale in the Democratic Party, otherwise every election (until global warming causes this planet to expire within the next century) will be a corporate politician versus increasingly more blatant fascists. 

    Lastly, I fear that Trump already has the 2020 election. Rather, I'm afraid that there is no election. The USPS is being torn apart. This election is illegitimate, and our best bet to saving democracy is electing a progressive Democrat in 2024 when the pandemic is hopefully gone and we can go out and vote in person.

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