Nick

Forgot to post this, but LMLYD also got a Golden Globe nomination!

definitely, because it would have totally changed the microphone's equalization!

No, Melanie isn't as popular, but that's just how the cookie crumbles. But my point is that the drive for fame is ubiquitous among musicians and public figures, so it doesn't matter how Troye gained a following. I'm not saying Troye didn't make his YouTube channel for success, but that still wouldn't make him different than any other artist or make him an illegitimate success story. "They're annoying and basic" is wonderful dismissal for simply not paying attention, by the way. Can't be surprised considering the source though. - And in Troye news, he made a really solid TV debut with Youth last night. It won't embed for some reason, but: youtube.com/watch?v=MLKkwQM7uEY

Troye, outside of some minor little roles as a child actor, was a nobody before YouTube, just as Melanie was a nobody before The Voice. Using their respective platforms, though, they both then had an alright fanbase to fall back on when it came time for them to release major label original material. And really, it's a smart and effective way to do it. But everyone has his or her own path to fame, and every artist has a thirst for it in some capacity. I just don't see the difference between Troye and any other artist in that aspect. And did you not just see my past few posts? Ellie Goulding has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. Don't come at her with some bullshit speculation pulled out of thin air when we're on a forum dedicated to a woman who has admitted to being in a relationship with a record executive and has a song literally titled "Fucked My Way Up To the Top."

Listen, we've derailed this thread once before I don't really intend on doing it again. Really, Ellie Goulding's personal life has nothing to do with the original topic at hand, but ending a friendship with Marina Diamandis or alledgedly writing a song about Ed Sheeran does not constitute "screwing someone over for her own success." So that has nothing to do, of course, with the point about gaining success by shady means, but I'm glad to see you put some real effort into avoiding the meaning of an idiom and grabbing onto some trivial point because your first attempt at dragging the girl in my avatar clearly backfired.

haven't I talked to you before about how those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?

yeah I know, we're on a site dedicated to one who did just that

if you look at one of his newest videos, he talks about not singing for years in front of people and how the Fault in Our Stars song re-sparked his inner musician. I don't think he went into YouTube with the sole intent of manipulating people to buy his music, but even if he did, who cares? People do a lot of things with the intent of becoming popular... things like, gee, I don't know, The Voice?

if you ignore him, he goes away. He did have a record deal behind him (he signed before TRXYE) but I don't know why people are so easy to tear people down that come from YouTube. If it weren't for YouTube or Soundcloud, most of our faves would be singing in their bedrooms or trashy dives. He's a talented kid. Transforming from a YouTube personality to an artist doesn't change that.

although I disagree with you on most of your points here, I thoroughly enjoy the shade

One Grammy nom for best pop solo performance for LMLYD, but she's up against Ed and Taylor. Another for best song writen for visual media, up against the Weeknd, John Legend, and Gaga.

Five Grammy noms. One for Ship to Wreck, two for HBHBHB, and two for What Kind of Man. If she gets snubbed on all five, I will officially have no faith left in the Grammy awards.

The most visually interesting performance of Alive yet:

I don't usually read YouTube comments because they're trash, but I can't believe the comments under YouTube's audio stream of Borders. The one female rapper -- err, artist in general -- who makes statements on the political landscape, and the white right-wingers get all up in arms

Hymn for the Weekend is especially glorious.

sometimes I do that for albums I don't even like that have cool releases. Like Marina's Froot boxset. For the most part, I dislike Froot but the scented 7" boxset is just so cool that I nearly bought it before I heard the album

painfully hipster yet I lowkey want it

I think she finished it a long time ago, so it's probably hard to remember.

He's getting rave reviews for this so far. A 5/5 from the Guardian, 4/5 from Rolling Stone, 4/5 from another publication (I forget which one).

I'll barely have time to listen today

RCA must have told the good sis to get back on the promo circuit and make Alive rise like a true lotus because she was on the Voice too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oo-EQSrAxA&feature=youtu.be

At least this set up was much more appealing than whatever was happening to that poor seizing Asian woman on SNL. But why did a chunk of the song out so awkwardly? I get time restraints, but the cut was so awkward.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/ellie-goulding-is-singing-from-inside-the-pop-machine/2015/11/25/1630c630-939d-11e5-b5e4-279b4501e8a6_story.html

This era has been an ongoing trainwreck but the music is still amazing

it looks like someone grew their pubic hair out for three years, made it into a wig, put it on Poot, and then tried their best to straighten it.