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"Yeah she clearly isn't hung up on image only which is mostly Lana's whole thing" first, please tell me that you aren't a Lana fan. secondly, don't lecture me pls, because everything is an image: Lana del Rey is an image and Borde is an image too, well packaged and contrary to Lana the whole thing is swallowed by the anglo-saxon hipsters as a second coming in music. What are those insanely photosopped posters of Borde if not parts of the fabric of some well calculated image. "As for your theory on the hate campaign they are on the same label, Universal" - you are so naive- Lana position is weak there, they didn't promoted her music, didn't believed in her, she sold those 4,2 mil copies just because her album and voice is so good and she has hardcore fans who love Lana's music. But make no mistake, Lana's the real anti-system star because she's both politically unacceptable: she smokes, she doesn't give a shit about the feminist agenda, she spooks little girls...and her music dosen't follow the conventional pop wisdom (she had basically no airplay (the Gervais shit doesn't count)... not like Borde the fake anti-system popstar which is so relatable with her platitudes and so radio friendly. You know why Lorde is more liked in the US because the stupid teenagers there have the feeling listening to Lorde platitudes that they understood something and Lana's music mostly confuses them so they flock to Lorde.

LORDE'S 'PURE HEROINE' IS THE ALBUM LANA DEL REY WISHES SHE MADE By: Julia Emmanuele 12:49PM EDT Frank Hoensch/Getty Images Fans of Lorde, the 16-year-old pop star, have been eagerly awaiting her debut album since "Royals" started going viral. Luckily for them, the singer has made Pure Heroine available to stream via VH1 a week ahead of its September 30 release. Like her hit single, the album has enough electronic elements to help it sit comfortably on the charts, but the beats are all simple and pared-down, which helps give the album a more organic feel than the EDM-pop club bangers that have become so popular recently. Sonically, it gives off the impression that it could have been made in Lorde's bedroom, with some beats she put together herself, which perfectly compliments Lorde's anti-glamour pop star persona. The songs are distinctly undanceable, and her voice gives the lyrics the kind of longing that music about being a teenager requires. To put it bluntly, Pure Heroine is the album that Lana Del Rey wishes she made. This isn't meant to provoke a debate about Del Rey's "authenticity" versus Lorde's — after all, all pop stars have cultivated personas, and where Del Rey is a trailer park Lolita, Lorde is the "realistic" pop star. However, where Born to Die was overproduced in places, layering echoes over strings over electronic beats, Pure Heroine's minimal production allows the songs to shine in a way that Del Rey's couldn't quite manage. Lorde also manages to make each song on her album distinct and unique, with which Del Rey had some trouble. Many of Lorde's songs are tinged with the same kind of longing found on Born to Die — which is probably a result of her being an actual teenager — but keeps it all from feeling one-note. It's almost as if Lorde took all of the things that were good from Del Rey's debut and fine-tuned them to create a better, more interesting result. Lorde has also perfectly timed the release of her debut. In the upcoming months, there are several attention-grabbing albums coming out, including ones from Miley Cyrus (October 4), Katy Perry (October 22) and Lady Gaga (November 11). Not only does an earlier release guarantee Lorde the press she deserves, but it will give fans a chance to get acquainted with the songs before we're all bombarded with club banger after club banger. Lorde is establishing herself as the foil to the over-the-top pop divas of our time - through both her music and her personality - and people seeking something normal or relatable on the pop charts will flock to Pure Heroine. The New Zealander has been quoted as saying that she wants to make something "real" that kids can relate to, and so far her desire for authenticity has served her well. There's sure to be at least two more hit singles off of Pure Heroine and hopefully Lorde's success will allow for more artists like her to break through to the mainstream. Either way, it seems like Lorde's quest for an anti-pop star is going to make her a genuine one. From: http://www.hollywood.com/news/celebrities/55034224/lorde-pure-heroine-available-to-stream-early THIS IS TOTAL WAR. Lorde's management is pushing with PAYOLA the anti-Lana Del Rey campaign started some months ago. Wow, i'm really starting to hate this little bitch "and people seeking something normal or relatable on the pop charts" -i was never interested in normal and relatable artists - btw, Lorde's not that relatable, in her heart she's a fame whore, she's a calculating person much more packaged than Lana was. When Lana started in 2011 she was like a puppy, but Borde in my view is the real calculating and unauthentic creation the whole Pure Shit screams about this. "Lorde's quest for an anti-pop star is going to make her a genuine one": yes the PAYOLA licks are obvious, yea, Borde the "anti-pop star" (nonsense alert!!!!)

Put your tongue in your mouth, stupid kid . At 16, she had no business to stay in run down motels. Borde attacked Lana and that is a fact. But hey, she is a big Nicki fan (she cannot fathom how much she loves Nicki)

You are hyped up about Borde, is obvious, but I can easily take 4-5 Lana songs that are better lyrically then anything on Pure Shit. I hope she will stay local, hyped up by sexually frustrated Anglo-saxon teenagers who are thinking that her platitudes are something of deeper meaning. Royals is a mess lyrically, I didn't have the time to analyze the other songs, but basically there are no melodies just the tiresome beats over and over again. She obviously don't writes the music of her songs and please don't compare her to Lana which has written more than 100 songs (lyrics and melody) and this self-absorbed teenager maybe had written 10 lyrics so far. I hope she stays like Gotye of 2013. Lana>>>>>>>>>>>>>Borde

You are serious? The amount of photoshopping on her pictures is insane. When you look at her pictures taken on stage, especially when she makes those unbearable grimaces, I will put it mildly, she's not pretty. Lana is a goddess compared to her. But what makes Borde an ugly person in my view is the ruthlessness (meanness) which is radiated by her persona. She looks much older because of this. I think that she and her management started the whole campaign against LDR because they feel that the Lana fan-base is shaky and Lana can be easily attacked and dismissed.

and her lips?!!!! didn't she fill her lips for you? you know... that "easy" procedure in which Lana is injecting stuff in her lips (on a regular basis according to some "fans") just because some "fans" want to say something nasty about her...and she MUST have called the Turkish paps didn't she? to show her "lesbian grandma" outfit. What a attention whore!!!

What you realy want to say is: Lana you and I both know that any of Lorde songs aren't even close to your best songs, let's not pleigh, Lorde is much better than you (that is why I cannot appreciate a (finally) positive review about you in the us billboard)

I didn't paid to much attention to it but you are right, there is a difference between heroin (drug) and heroine (a woman of distinguished courage or ability, admired for her brave deeds and noble qualities; the principal female character in a story, play, film). But her pretentiousness is at the same level or worse: She is the PURE HEROINE. I'm beginning now to understand where the name "Lorde" comes from

49 min. interview? I couldn't listen to her more than 5 min. she's not that deep or interesting. Maybe she is more "deep" than Lana because she has half of Lana's education, you know the theory that schooling is making you more stupid. Lana dosen't give a fuck about the interviews, she's not serious about them, her relationship with the media was fucked up from the begening and that wasn't entirely her fault. About Lorde's process: "And we'll never be ruuuuuyals" is a "deep", socially sensitive "anthem", which started form her lamenting on big social issues such as "we didn't have any money for a cab after we partied"...poor NZ kids, they know better what poverty is...stupid ghetto rapers they don't have a clue...come idiots and take lessons about social isssues (and about everything else) from the Lorde (another wannabe preacher, but at 16?!!..no gurl, take a sit and learn a bit more about life before you open your mouth again)... yeah, come on, get a grip flip-floppers

This girl...I dislike her persona, the Lorde stage-name (hey, no one is making fun of it?!!!!), her grimaces when she sings (oh yeah, she feels the shit so deeply..), this boring Royal song (I don't start on the lyrics: "we crave a different kind of buzz" " but “we're driving Cadillacs in our dreams" what is different then gurl? Aha…is not defined...yet...by the management), her teenage pretentiousness. I listened to her recently, some 4-5 melodies in a row (I liked Bravado the most) and it was tiresome because of the heavy beats, she has the same shtick (voice), much more monotone than Lana's Born to Die and Paradise in my opinion. She's kind of "not very pretty" like Janis Joplin (this is good for her because she will not be questioned by idiots about her cosmetic surgeries), just as pretentious and annoying as Joplin (and maybe just as talented but I don't really like Joplin's music) minus the drugs. (The name of her album is Pure heroine?!!!!! phleeease, it's certainly not a drug reference, but maybe she thinks that she's so good that her album will have the effects of the heroine on the listener?!!! She has some ego (Joplin again) I have to admit that.

My god, if stupidity would hurt you would be in agonizing pain. You believe that someone just fills her lips like some container? You don't have a clue about these procedures but you are talking anyway like stupid people do.

Wow, what arrogance and little consideration you have towards your supposedly preferred artist. At least you didn't changed your avatar and I suppose that Lana is your no.1 artist, correct me if I'm wrong with that. Now, about your arrogance: 1. Your arrogance towards an artist is acceptable if you consider that her/his art is worthless, otherwise you are schizophrenic about it. I have no respect for "artists" like Thicke, Minaj, Perry etc. because I think that their musical production is shit to be fed to empty adolescent minds with bodies full of hormones. Some may think that this music is good for shaking asses in clubs but nothing more than that. I don't waste time to dismiss them on forums, or youtube because they are worthless to me. But Lana's music is for audition only, you listen to her for the lyrics and melodies and you love them or not. Lana's musical product has no secondary benefits (dancing in clubs), it just affects your mind and feelings, is basically an intellectual endeavor. Now, if you love her lyrics and melodies, at least most of them I suppose, you cannot dismiss her as shallow because she's an artist that created something you love intellectually, otherwise is just nonsense. I said this because in your comment you basically said that she is so stupid that she cannot differentiate between some well known music genres despite being involved 7-8 years on the New York underground scene. You are suggesting that she uses words and musical concepts (punk rock) in her lyrics that she is not aware of. 2. I read most of her interviews, all the interviews in 2013, and I read some of your posts. I have to say that, from this scarce sources, Lana appears to be more educated and more intelligent that you are. That's why I think that your arrogance towards her is just ridiculous. Your "intellectual" contributions in posts are always the same whining about feminism without to much purpose and nothing more than that. 3. I think that you have some malevolence towards her, which is obvious when you suggested, without any proof, that she calls the paparazzi to take her pictures when she's going out in pajamas to buy some coffee and to put herself to the derision of idiotic comments in the Daily Mail. You think so little of her, which I think that is incompatible with loving her music which is a product of her mind and persona. I think that you and some of the "lanalyzers" are pretty schizophrenic about Lana as an artist, which is due in my opinion to the enormous controversy generated artificially in the press around her. You know that her music is good and authentic but you cannot defend this fact wholeheartedly because of the critical reception of her music which was based mostly on critical assessments that ignored her real persona and music and were based on unsubstantiated affirmations about her. And there is on more reason for your bitchy attitude towards her: you think with your pussy = jealousness (lips, hair, boyfriend etc.).

I would never mock or insult my friends, that I know about inter-human relationships. She covered Leonard Cohen, for example, who is not handsome, to show that you are biased. I don't understand, you repeat the same things about her, like she is shallow. If a "friend" would call me shallow, i would kick his ass and send him to find new friends who accept to be insulted. Sorry, in my book you cannot call your friends shallow. No, the reality is that many of you here don't have any respect for her, this is why her "fans" share blatantly her leaked songs for her new album and uploading them on Youtube. You saw the reaction of the Gaga fans towards her leaked song? Because Lana had been the subject of universal mockery in the press some of you feel entitled to mock her further: oh, is just Lana who are we talking about?... we can trash her! Flip-Floppers you are, Lana described you very well in her interview. You listen to Born to Die a whole year, what album you listened that much in your life?!! And that is coming from a shallow girl who's filling her lips when you feel like it, who calls for the paps just to show her casual wear on DM and I could carry on with the mockery read on this forum (mockery is a form of opinion so don't come with the freedom of opinion shit)

Sarcasm. You are an musical expert? I didn't know... I listened in my life to many artists but i don't idolize any of them, that is why i sad that i'm not that much involved in music

She didn't GREW UP in a trailer park, come on, don't twist my words!

Yes you are right, nobody should give a fuck about your stupid comments. Maybe you grew up in a trailer park and that is your level of thinking. I only commented 14 times, you have 1774 stupid comments, be real I'm not the one that is wasting time here. Fuck you

Thank you for your advice but I'm not that much into music. I don't have music idols and certainly i don't idolize Lana Del Rey. The only thing I'm bothered with is the gratuitous malice against her, I never saw anything like that against a basically good and talented person

1. If you want to insult me I inform you that I'm male 2. Carles is the blogger that started the slander campain against LDR on hipsterrunoff.com in 2011 3. I don't use twitter and I have no queens. The only thing really intriguing me about Lana is that nobodies like you feel entitled to belittle and mock her while I think that she's a genuinely talented artist and basically a good person 4. I don't have anything against critique, but you are just insulting her in your comments. Example: "she said the same thing about Elvis. When she saw his face, she knew he'd be an inspiration. Little shallow girl ha ha". What is this if not pure malice: you made her shallow because you imagined some reaction of her at some artist?!! How stupid you can be?!!! The fact is that you are inclined to mock her and not to critisize her and this is fine if you are a hater. If she is that shallow in you opinion then why are you on this site, this is not logical. I would never waste my time talking about shallow artists. I read more mockery disguised as critique than real critique on this "fan" site and that is why I quite understand her thoughts about about quitting music.

I'll never be "over" her, she is on my greatest list. By the way, You sound like that stupid Lana slanderer Carles from HRO

Who the fuck are you to judge her? What the fuck do you know about her?!!! You "know" the same bullshit that we all read about hear on stupid hater blogs (some of them on payola to slander her). You are worst than the haters because you call yourself a "fan". Be honest and say that you hate LDR: hate her name, music,public image and you believe all the shit written about her. You are malicious like the haters, you say "seems like one of those calculated things". You sound exactly like another stupid hater. Of course that she listened to the greats like every normal music listener does. She was influenced at some level by the music she listened to but I think that she is so talented that she just shits great music without to much effort or outside influence. That is why she is so difficult to be enrolled in any musical genre. And by the way, she was polite in her interviews saying that she was influenced by some artists because i really don't think she's that much influenced by any of them. And now come and put your "mature" gifs out and listen to Lorde or whatever you really like

I don't think Lana is submissive in her relationships. Anything but submission come in my mind when I think about Lana. I think she's quite stubborn, aggressive and she really loves her partners. The submissive image regarding Lana is the result of the many idiotic interpretations of her songs by feminist haters. She exploits her man, as well as she is exploited by them at some point. This is about real life relationships. There is no relationship without some form of exploitation, you care about your partner but in the same time you want something from her/him. In Off the races this is obvious and has nothing to do, in my opinion, with the Lolita story because the girl in the song is obliviously an adult (she sings about her Las Vegas past).Take for example, ROAR by KP, which is a stupid, wannabe "feminist" anthem, which is sterile because has nothing to do with reality, is rather a pop reconstruction of some feminist point of view. This is what i call inauthentic, fabricated music. (Woman ROAR, what a "grand" image for a woman). Poor Lana was called inauthentic and crucified for expressing her feelings.

Regarding the National Anthem comments of LORDE i have to say that she clearly doesn't have a clue about Lana's lyrics, it's made in the mould of the shallow interpretations of the Lana haters. About feminism, I can't even..., she's a 16 year old girl, what the fuck she knows about these issues, she hasn't the life experiences and certainly she's not scholarly prepared for the discussion. She's a little cunt towards Lana, she's becoming to pretentious, but her music is uninteresting to me I'm to old for her beats and lyrics and I realy don't give a shit about her the only thing that bothered me was the repeated attacks on Lana. And pls, don't spread unverified things like 80% of Lana fans are Lorde fans, because her sound, lyrics and feeling has nothing to do with Lana's music.

Charli XCX sound (i never heard about her before reading this tread but i watched some clips on youtube), in my opinion, has nothing to do with Lana del Rey's music, and I'm quite baffled that some people compare these singers (it's the same situation with Lady Gaga or little Lorde that are compared often with LDR) . Maybe I'm too old for the sound and lyrical content of Charli XCX or Lorde and even Gaga, but for me is a huge gap between mostly addictive (Lana del Rey) and one time listening or irritation (the others). This is subjective but still it's a huge difference

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