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agreed, they don't ultimately matter as long as the music is good, and Honeymoon is finally getting its dues after almost ten years, so

agreed, if they wanted this song to be a hit they would have at least told her ass to make a video or perform it somewhere lol

By no means am I saying that this album is going to "flop" or "tank," I don't think that at all, but everything we know about this record feel antithetical to the world of streaming as we know it. The songs are lengthy, very personal, wordy, and experimental, so any success really should be celebrated than focusing on the negatives because ultimately numbers don't indicate quality at all

but also, yeah like @Marius said, it could very well possibly rise and stabilize like Ocean Blvd did for a couple of weeks. A&W's initial success is something to be proud of.

Unless she releases a shorter song from the second half of the record as the next single, the streams for this record are going to be pretty low, which isn't a bad thing for me because I personally don't care. The song is over 7 minutes and way less accessible than VB, so they can't be compared. People will be hit with a bat by A&W, then another with the Judah Smith interlude, then hit by another with the Jon Batiste interlude shortly after. I don't see many of these 2 second attention span TikTok freaks making it to the latter half of the album unless songs happen to go viral.

Everything he said reminds me of your profile pic

Safe to say we're in for a treat with this album if there are twice the amount of production than originally listed

I still think "waist deep in icy waves" is a lyric on this album.

What I get from those lyrics is that Kintsugi will be a track where she meditates on the grief/loss of her grandparents. "Kintsugi is the Japanese art of putting broken pottery pieces back together with gold — a metaphor for embracing your flaws and imperfections. “You won't realize your full potential until you go through the tough times,” Kumai says. With that said, Kintsugi takes work and awareness in order for it to truly be healing."

Can't stop reading the lyrics we have to Kintsugi...this song is going to destroy me

Don't have to ask me.

Yeah, I hate that they don't give you the option to immediately see the timeline as "latest" anymore. It defaults to that annoying & innacuate curated timeline

The fake lyrics are still on my Spotify

Also, a paragraph isn't an "essay." Just wanted to put that out there!

There really isn't a fight going on. I just had to get that off my chest because the wars of ego over subjective opinions about music are flaring up.

Exactly. It gets exhausting to see all of the ad hominem and condescending posts over other people's genuine reactions to songs. Some people might be hyperbolic, others might be way too negative, but instead of calling attention to that by attacking them or labelling them into a certain category, we all should just let bygones by bygones.

even more. Holy moly

If we could stop generalizing others, putting people into categories, and letting others enjoy or critique music without labelling, we all would get along much more. Are there people who tend to instantly fall in love with new Lana music? Yes. That doesn't mean they haven't been critical towards Lana's music or aren't being objective. Vice versa! Not everyone is being edgy if they share a valid critique about a song. However, we all should work on being less judgmental towards other people's perceptions about music. It puts other people on this forum on defense mode and it leads to pointless fighting and chaos. Just because a song doesn't resonate with you lyrically, doesn't mean people are blinded by the hype. And like I said, vice versa; just because you really love a song, doesn't mean the track should be immune from criticism. We all should work on expressing our own thoughts and opinions on the music, and stop worrying about other people and putting them into unfair categories that creates wars of ego. End rant.

when we find Urbam Noize in an updated version of the production credits

I think it might be a trap version of Venice Bitch which scares me and excites me at the same time

Lana's albums notoriously drop in streams during the last half of her records. Given that BoZ and Kintsugi both said the second half of this record is where the album truly shines, I hope we can change that trajectory!

Yeah, I'm not saying A&W is better than anything Pink Floyd or Radiohead ever wrote, I'm just saying the soundscape reminds me of progressive rock/alternative rock albums. Not that deep