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  9. Posted

    Well, in this song, she specifically refers to night, as being, well, night ... so I'm assuming she's referring to day as being the part when it isn't night. 

     

    im going to reply to this by quoting myself:

     

    RORMAN HAVE YOU NO RESPECT FOR NUANCE 

     

    anyway....

     

    You leave my aUsTrALiaN SkoOl alone! Your school was populated by students who ate entire heads of lettuces!

     

    ONE (1) STUDENT who ate entire heads of lettuce, thanks!

     

    Both cinnamon and pills are things you put in your mouth, okay?!

     

    yeah yeah so are dicks, doesn't make em relevant to the song! its not about literal connections rorman its about ART and METAPHOR and EXPRESSION ok

     

    You've failed to tell me what is the weakest part because your argument is weaker than Lanz's Twitter password!

     

    the weakest part is the 

     

    terrible lyrics!

     

    (and also the horrible vocal processing and cheap beats)

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  11. Posted

    So you're suggesting that sis plagiarised Anna Pavlova (which, in and of itself, doesn't really support your argument)? As if sis even knows who she is; she doesn't even know the lyrics to her own songs.

     

    referenced not plagiarized! get a grip woman  :facepalm:

     

     

     

    Sis hates performing and often looks miserable af. Which part is her chasing happiness? Is she searching for happiness in Google, because she has been known to Google her own lyrics during shows? Agreed about goth butterflies. I'll let you have that.

     

    show me where i said it was an exact mirror of her life...i'll be waiting... if we were discussing in terms of her actual life and decisions and behavior at shows, i'd refuse to defend either/any song  :creep: 

     

    its about the concept of looking for happiness in art when you're in an unhappy relationship, about seeing each show/opportunity to immerse yourself in your art as a search for happiness...if she were happy already she wouldn't need to chase it, genius!

     

     

    I'd like to point out that she actually has performed Cinnamon Girl at these ... happy shows you speak of ... several times, whilst never once performing your song.

     

    "performed" is a reeeeeeeeaaaaaach...hope u stretched!! (and whomst said anything about "happy shows," may i ask??)

     

     

    Honestly, she would've been better off making it "Happiness is Mango-Flavoured Vape" . That would actually make sense because she can't put it down even when accepting awards and it's impossible to catch the vapour.

     

    maybe its about a character, roman, dare i say........a ~*persona*~........

     

     

    What? So she's distressed during the day? Why not catch some butterflies, then?

     

    are you familiar with the usage of the word "day" as a 24-hour unit of time, rather than specifically to describe the period during which the sun is up? i'm sure australian schools might neglect to teach little things like that. she's distressed over her fucked-up relationship, and each tour stop is an opportunity to emotionally soothe herself with songs.

     

     

    What does a (rhetorical or otherwise) serial killer have to do with butterflies, and tour life, and lullabies? Like, this song is so fragmented. There is a wild assortment of ideas within the one song, and all of them complement each other, or go nowhere. Cinnamon Girl is far more cohesive. It flows and makes sense.

     

    oh i see why you love cinnamon so much! when a new idea is introduced into the mix, you lose your mind! have you ever read a book? i'm sure it must be difficult to wrap your head around things like paragraph breaks. 

     

    cohesion =/= quality! give me 15 different ideas over the same belabored (and weak) point any day. and "makes sense" is umm....generous.

     

     

    Okay but you love MAC and he used his Fisher-Price keyboard in that, too!

     

    yeah cuz the rest of the lyrics and production made up for it! the fisher price keyboard isnt even the worst part of cinnamon  :creep:

     

     

    And honestly, it's like choosing between Cholera or Typhoid, because it's not as if the piano in HIAB is anywhere near as good as the one used in say, Bartender.

     

    purely in terms of sound quality (not composition/playing), the piano in HIAB sounds just as good as the piano in bartender. fight me.

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  12. Posted

    to open, i shall link a quote from anna pavlova, who was quite literally my idol when i was younger: https://pioneerthinking.com/happiness-is-like-a-butterfly-anna-pavlova

     

    as you can see, the reference, while clumsily used, is not merely something lana pulled out of her ass; it refers to the mercurial nature of happiness in terms of fame and being a performer. so there.

     

    the moonlight part requires some suspension of disbelief. its not about literally catching butterflies at night, rorman, give me a break. its about the fact that her shows take place at night, and onstage she's chasing happiness, which is fleeting like a butterfly. see where this is all headed? also, goth butterflies are a Concept. 

     

    lullaby=soothes distress. you sing a lullaby to a crying baby to make it calm down.

     

    the serial killer question is RHETORICAL RORMAN HAVE YOU NO RESPECT FOR NUANCE (plus its a way more effective version of the "hold me without hurting me" shit)

     

    i'm not going to talk about "technical piano stuff," i'm just gonna say that HIAB sounds like an actual piano and CG sounds like jacks nasty digital keyboard, as per my analysis in the NFR thread  :hooker:  also you can check my analysis for a breakdown of the respective production  :hooker:

     

    as for the cinnamon lyrics, i will not be breaking them down. i'm just going to copy and paste them here, because i strongly believe they speak for (against) themselves.......

     

    [Verse 1]
    Cinnamon in my teeth
    From your kiss, you're touching me
    All the pills that you take
    Violet, blue, green, red to keep me at arm's length don't work
    You try to push me out, but I just find my way back in
    Violet, blue, green, red to keep me out, I win

    [Chorus]
    There's things I wanna say to you, but I'll just let you live
    Like if you hold me without hurting me
    You'll be the first who ever did
    There's things I wanna talk about, but better not to give
    But if you hold me without hurting me
    You'll be the first who ever did

    [Post-Chorus]
    Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah
    Hold me, love me, touch me, honey
    Be the first who ever did
    Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah
    Hold me, love me, touch me, honey
    Be the first who ever did

    [Verse 2]
    Kerosene in my hands
    You make me mad, on fire again
    All the pills that you take
    Violet, blue, green, red to keep me at arm's length don't work

    [Chorus]
    There's things I wanna say to you, but I'll just let you live
    Like if you hold me without hurting me
    You'll be the first who ever did
    There's things I wanna talk about, but better not to give
    But if you hold me without hurting me
    You'll be the first who ever did

    [Post-Chorus]
    Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah
    Hold me, love me, touch me, honey
    Be the first who ever did
    Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah
    Hold me, love me, touch me, honey
    Be the first who ever did

    [Chorus]
    There's things I wanna say to you, but I'll just let you live
    Like if you hold me without hurting me
    You'll be the first who ever did
    There's things I wanna talk about, but better not to give
    Like if you hold me without hurting me
    You'll be the first who ever did

     

    groundbreaking  :creep:


    i'm several drinks deep i dont have to make sense 


    I don't even remember which songs have some bitch sitting in the back of a taxi but I'm pretty sure he put similar lines in songs he did with Lorde and St Vincent.

     

    JACK did not put those lines in, they WRITE THEIR OWN LYRICS you MISOGYNISTIC PIG


    also if you think HIAB is better you are very much allowed to comment, despite what DictatorNockwell might try to tell you

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  14. Posted

    hiab

    - this actually sounds like a real piano omg jack?? im so proud??

    - yeah these lyrics are kinda a mess lol, they do have individual moments tho. i confess i stan the serial killer part

    - the way the "baby i just wanna dance" part comes in is so awkward

    - these lyrics just kinda feel like a weird pastiche of all the prior songs on the album w/out adding much new

    - the strings sound weird and staticky on these speakers

    - i do like the individual melodies but the way they flow into each other doesn't make much sense to me, it feels kinda randomized

     

    hope is a dangerous thing for a 2000s emo band like me to have - but i have it

    - the fact that this comes right after hiab makes the cheap gross tinny digital keyboard sound even worse

    - her voice does sound amazing tho

    - my thoughts on these lyrics are maybe a lil too complex and controversial to get into here but i will say that i think it has some good lyrics and some extreme lyrical lows

    - damn she sounds gooood

    - i fuckin love her voice in this 

    - the ipad line really just does not do it for me im sorry 

    - the way she sings the black narcissist line gives me physical shivers 

    - im sorry i slandered this song so much ok

    - my beef w it is mostly symbolic and political, not about the actual song

    - imagine if it had a real piano instead of jackoff's stupid keyboard

    - THIS is how to do high notes/voice breaks


    that is all thank u for ur time

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  15. Posted

    the greatest

    - love the intro, imagine if jackoff kept up this level of instrumentation

    - i can hear the horns SO much better on these speakers

    - her voice sounds fuckin orgasmic in verse one

    - beach boys line is genuinely clever

    - prechorus vocal processing works great

    - chorus deserves more drama in the instrumental, the prechorus was such a buildup and it didnt really go anywhere

    - drums after 1st chorus still just feel like a knockoff of cruel world

    - verse 2 is kind of a lyrical letdown after verse 1

    - yeah the "culture is lit" line is kinda tacky but i don't mind it that much

    - my main beef with this song is that it doesn't go anywhere...it promises so much drama but falls way the fuck off. this is like the biggest offender in terms of jack's tendency toward what i like to call "sonic edging"

    - outro leaves a bad taste in my mouth

    - we almost made it a whole song without jack's STUPID DIGITAL KEYBOARD and then he had to shove it in at the end

    - the whole thing feels so abridged. imagine if this song had a bridge, and then another chorus or 2, and then a less tacky outro. like imagine the epic cinematic masterpiece this could've been

    - literally the intro/first verse/first chorus are stunning, and then after jack tries unsuccessfully to bite the iconic drum moment from cruel world, it all meanders and goes nowhere

     

    bartender

    - i love this song

    - a...real piano? dare i believe my ears?

    - yeah the warm like a gun line does suck lol 

    - i love the piano part so so much, it reminds me so much of bel air

    - her voice sounds so strong and warm and confident and consistent through the whole thing

    - there was this one review a certain user posted that referred to the "glissando piano" in this song and my pedantic ass feels the need to point out that glissando is a specific musical term that does not describe anything the piano in this song does. thats all, thank you for coming to my ted talk

    - i LOVE the stutter thing. its so cute and intriguing and can be read in so many ways

    - love the "ha ha ha ha" thing too, it feels like a lil callback to dark paradise

    - her low range goddamn. her voice just sounds so GOOD esp on these speakers omg

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  16. Posted

    how to disappear

    - so we meet again

    - throwback to when i listened to the cd l*ak and thought the intro was literally a joke

    - i feel like the intro should've been longer (NOT that i want to hear more bottle factory circus music, it just feels abrupt...the song deserves a better instrumental and a less rushed opening)

    - for the record, i think the apple event version is a strong contender for lana's best song ever, period...i love love love the lyrics and melody but this instrumental is a disgrace

    - the FUCKING BELLS...makin me suicidal here

    - i feel like the cutesiness of the bells lowkey undermines the emotional gravity of the song

    - dislike the vocal processing but its tolerable

    - beat sounds like it came straight outta an *d sh**ran wedding dance song

    - it doesnt make SENSE for the instrumentals to crescendo when the vocals don't jfc

    - in conclusion, how to disappear solo piano fundamentalists unite

     

    california

    - here we go again with the cheap keyboard

    - the verse melody makes no sense, i really don't like it, i'm sorry

    - however the prechorus melody is gorgeous ("i shouldn't have done it..." etc)

    - the instrumental is nice enough i guess but it feels lazy, literally nothing special about it, it sounds like a karaoke track, by-the-numbers af

    - in the second verse it sounds like her voice is maxing out the mic

    - again, the vocal processing is so erratic and weird and inconsistent

    - personal preference entirely ofc but i do not like the chorus melody at all ("OOH ill pick you UP...") idk it just sounds so belabored...it feels like the melodic equivalent of slogging through mud in heavy boots

    - ending is SO abrupt holy fuck

     

    tnbar

    - i LOVE the verse melody and the guitar in the beginning...so sultry

    - transition into prechorus ("we were so obsessed") feels really abrupt, both the change in instrumental and in vocal processing

    - the chorus makes me so mad omg...how to kill an intriguing storyline 101

    - transition back to verse 2 is even more abrupt...ideas never get a chance to develop 

    - verse and prechorus instrumentals are really gorgeous and interesting but idk what the heck the chorus is doing. i like the concept with the percussion but it doesn't exactly work for me idk

    - the bridge is so pretty, "405 i drive through" feels shoehorned in syllabically tho. her voice sounds gorgeous, pizzicato strings sound gorgeous, glass breaking is probably my favorite moment on the album

    - its a shame the glass break leads to this stupid fucking chorus again though

    - this all just feels unfinished and patchworked together. the verses and prechorus build this gorgeous sense of drama and then the chorus is such a wild letdown vocally and lyrically. at least the instrumentals deliver on the drama they promise! take notes, jackoff

    - in conclusion, we deserved the original version

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  17. Posted

    love song

    - yes i stan this song ok

    - the piano does sound digital af but the fact that its so muffled makes it tolerable, like it doesnt just sound like a failed replication of a real piano

    - do not like the vocal processing on the last line of the chorus, i like what i think they were going for but i don't think it succeeded

    - echo on the first "is it safe to just be who we are" is perfect ahh i love

    - the shortness/lack of structure and development works for me with this particular song but the fact that so many songs on the record are like that kinda sours it

     

    cinnamon girl

    - right off the bat we have jack's cheap tinny digital keyboard, i hate it, get it away from me

    - vocal track sounds like a COMPLETELY different recording from ~0:30, idk if its just the effects they were using or what but its hella jarring

    - beat in the chorus just sounds cheap and amateur, i've made shit that sounded better and i barely know how to use garageband

    - the cut from the chorus to the second verse is so abrupt and weird 

    - weird string thing in the "violet blue green red" of verse 2 could've been good theoretically but i do not like the execution

    - vocals from ~3:00 actually hurt my ears

    - the lyrics aren't good enough to save the production and vice versa

    - i like the first bit of the outro, before the beat comes in, but after that it makes no sense

    - this song just pisses me off bc of how messy and amateurish it is in every way 

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  18. Posted

    vb

    - yeah i actually do really love this song too

    - the fact that this and mac were the first things we got plus the fact that i LOVED melodrama were the reason i was excited about jacks involvement at first, which is why the final product was such a letdown

    - the instrumental change at ~2:15 is *chef's kiss*

    - damn i reaaaaaaally preferred the lyrics when i still thought it was "life's dream" instead of "livestream" lol

     

    fiily

    - in the very beginning the guitar melody doesn't fit with the vocal melody and it bugs the shit outta me

    - is it me or does her voice do something weird on the first "suite"

    - i stan the second verse!! all aspects thereof

    - second "sweet" sounds totally fine compared to the first

    - lack of enunciation in the chorus still grates on me so hard 

    - bridge/outro/whatever the fuck is *chef's kiss*^2

    - i feel like this song is so short none of the ideas get to fully develop, it ends just as it gets really good

     

    doin time

    - i love this song

    - everything about it

    - vocals? great

    - production? great

    - lyrics? great 

    - mixing? great

    - sounds just as good on a car stereo as it does on these speakers

    - yes i listened to it 21 times in a row when it came out

    - yes it was in my spotify top 5 of 2019

    - why do you ask

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  19. Posted

    updates:

     

    title track

    - the piano sounds less tinny which is a huge relief!!

    - there's one high(er) note (somewhere in the 'youuuuu' part) where her voice like cracks weirdly and i Do Not Like

    - my main objection to this song is the lack of structure, it doesn't know where its going, it sounds like a dog chasing its own tail

     

    mac

    - damn it the super digital piano sound is back. fucking jackoff

    - i do really really really love this fuckin song tho 

    - i criticize the lyrics on a lot of this album but this song is 100% an exception

    - the vocal processing works really well here 

    - honestly my only objection to this song is jack's cheap keyboard

    - fuck this is a great song


    i lowkey never listen to this album so its an interesting experience

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