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just desserts was just always a bit weird for me cause it felt like it wasn't her song, then it turned out it was never meant to be her song in the first place lol baby shouldn't have been on the album and I think it's over hated because of that, but it should have just been a solo song and made a bit slower, she really struggled to sing it live (which doesn't make her look good at all) and she even had nightmares about performing it. 'if i left the world' is forgotten by everyone but I like it, the scrapped 'remix' with marina singing a verse and some bgv on 'stay all night' by alma was a good example of a feature imo, their voices worked well together.

right?? I wonder if she hasn't done a greek inspired album cause she feels like it's a lot to live up too, I wonder if she worries about what her family (or specifically her dad) would have to say omg yes I forgot that happened I think marina doesn't collab cause she's just a bit insecure about it, she's been very public about finding co-writing hard, it must be even more difficult to co-write with artist then wait anxiously on whether or not a load of people say their verses are better or whatever

she deleted a load of her blogposts unfortunately, the ones on the wiki are the ones that are saved via the wayback machine, that's why there's huge gaps in 2009 and the start of 2010, the lily allen one she deleted but that quote made it into news articles the fact lily forgave marina, and asked to collab with marina on two separate occasions (recently) and marina has done nothing

'It's Shitney, Bitch' it's not actually as bad as I remembered, I think my brain merged some of the other blogposts she's made about other women into one (ie. "She was quite good until she wrecked it all by turning into everything she's not. i.e. going on a diet, dyeing her hair slapper-blonde and flashing her boobies." about lily allen) it's a bit 'funny' in parts, she's talking about Britney similarly to how we talk about her

oh she definitely is, she always has been to an extent, especially prevalent on her blog, the way she spoke about britney after a concert… yikes! marina needs to work on her internalised misogyny, I don’t mean that as a joke either. also another option, this was a flop marketing campaign, get the girlies fighting for some free publicity (don’t actually believe this, I’m joking)

apparently they made up according to charli, but she might have said that to get people to shut up over it. I think they both went to the same party during covid too me too, I sometimes wonder if the ‘that FROOT looks familiar’ was supposed to be a joke, then people egged her on and she got a bit self righteous at 30 she should’ve been more mature about it though

to be pedantic it was ‘perfume’, and in the UK the teenage girl equivalent of like lynx/axe for teenage boys so maybe marina was jealous of the promo (I’m joking) I think she was probably just upset she spent her money on the first FROOT photoshoot herself and it triggered her charlotte rutherford went onto work with charli for the pop 2 photoshoot (iconic) so it all worked out for charli in the end

I don’t think anyone actually wants this poetry book do they? I cannot get ‘I was the type of girl to 𝓼𝔀𝓪𝓵𝓵𝓸𝔀’ out of my head. I just want it asap so we can move on, I’m so curious to what an independent marina will do (prediction: it won’t magically fix everything) maybe she’s using this time to actually work on a concept for her new album, or she’s using the poetry to see what verses we like from it, which would actually be pretty clever

what I want for M6 is... better communication I don't mean I want her posting on instagram/twitter everyday cause I know she doesn't like that and never has been like that, but with the poetry book she just said 'more to come soon' and the thing is with marina 'coming soon' can mean anything from 'tomorrow' to 'secretly cancelling it and never addressing it again' (aka the ADIAML vines) I feel like she might announce more on the poetry book on valentine's day, but who knows another thing is she replied to a fan saying there would be a physical copy on instagram, but didn't say that on twitter or tumblr so if you're not combing her replies you wouldn't even know that, I'm sure she'll reiterate when she makes her proper post but I just feel like she shouldn't say anything or say it everywhere but that's just my non-marina opinion on announcements in general I get it's a double edged sword though, like her teasing snippets we never got (INHA/'the day I was born') was obviously with the intention of releasing them (unless she really does hate us) and keeping us up to date.

it's so weird to me marina is a few months older than lady gaga, I can't explain why but it just doesn't feel right... and charli xcx being 7 years younger than marina too, I can't believe a 30 year old marina went off on a 23 year old charli about that photoshoot iconic piece of pop culture but it was charlotte rutherford's fault not charli's

honestly my only criticism of these songs is they should probably be just one really good song instead of two ok songs but that goes for literally all the L+F songs, EYL and TNWWY should be one really good song instead of two songs.

absent love and doubt your love are so sad, I feel so bad for her putting up with that for so long

‘beautiful world’ from the L+F era, a snippet leaked a few months ago same, but no one was ever expecting china dolls (or even knew the 2006 plastic rainbow existed) to leak, that was the most random leak ever (in retrospect it makes sense it existed since she said it was the first song she wrote)

I think it’s probably a laptop song, but I’m more than happy to be proven wrong if anyone wants to leak it (unlikely but we randomly got China Dolls a couple of years ago)

I agree (to me FROOT is the start of some of her awkward lyricism), but I think the main difference is tone/intention, like there’s something about ‘Harvey Weinstein’s *cheerleader chant* gone to jail!’ that really doesn’t sit right with me. I do like purge the poison’s production and everything but the verses (I wish she kept it from mother nature’s perspective), but it feels like she’s listening things off to check boxes which feels disingenuous (and I’ve already said about her going to that hotel in man’s world) vs savages where it felt like she was actually touched by these things

‘ancient dreams in a modern land’ is just such an interesting phrase to me I kind of wish she saved the song and did a whole concept album around it (not that I have any ideas about what that concept album would be, maybe greek mythology retold in modern age?)

I wonder if marina understands why we like savages (and her older political songs) but not her recent ones or if she’s confused by it. like if she was at home like ‘I’m actually going to give the gays what they want, savages 2.0’ then sat there like at the response

FROOT isn't my fav album but I hope it starts to get the love it deserves from the general public (none of her FROOT songs have been certified) and Marina, I don't think she even posted anything for its 5th anniversary (I see why she doesn't say 'happy birthday' to every album every year but 5 is a milestone)

fear and loathing is such a beautiful song, it’s a shame she hasn’t played it since 2013. it would have fit the L+F tour perfectly, maybe it’s just a bit long, and not upbeat (like froot), for the set? (she could have played a radio edit version though)

I'm pretty similar to you TFJ = EH > FROOT = ADIAML > L+F

yeah I've seen a few people that seem to think that marina leaving atlantic will magically get 'old marina' back but marina has been messy her whole life, we've just ignored it I do think her next albums will be better though, L+F was pushed out before she was ready like we've discussed and ADIAML was likely pushed out asap to get out of her contract, so just having that pressure off her will be better. maybe she can just release standalone songs on her own schedule, ADIAML has some good songs but as an album it's weird af thematically, half political, half about jack, then VFT and the title track just two bops doing their own thing

I think this was just marina's bad decision, although her label have done some problematic things, I think marina is also to blame for her weird career choices. MARINA makes her much harder in to find in search results, if she had a unique name like Beyonce or Adele then it would be fine but 'marina' is also a word. it also means her website is marinaofficial.co.uk, if you go to marinaofficial.com it's a different artist called marina I cannot see why a label would suggest 'MARINA' over 'Marina Diamandis'

it's on urban dictionary, ('Effeminate way of being Gay. One can be camp without being gay. Floppy wrists. Think Elton John and Jack from Will & Grace'), in my experience it's used by people middle aged and older, but marina can act 'old fashioned' at times, she used the T-slur on her blog in 2011 to refer to a gay bar I'm glad camp is coming back to it's actual roots and we can all look it in the eye

I don't think she ever would, I don't think she should either it would be awkward and messy, her leaving her label is a great chance to swap to Marina Diamandis though

she said she felt like she had outgrown it, which I can understand she was 18 or 20ish when she created it and was 33 when she dropped it, but with 'marina diamandis' I don't think you have to take a massive leap to realise 'marina and the diamonds' and 'marina diamandis' are the same thing, so now anyone that has to introduce her would have to still say 'marina, previously marina and the diamonds' which makes her sound like she was in a band even more another theory was that 'marina' fits better on artwork, which I sort of understand, trying to fit 'marina and the diamonds' and 'ancient dreams in a modern land' would be a bit of a nightmare