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the first line of the chorus, then she goes back to singing in english she recently ‘revealed’ she has ADHD and tbh I’ve always suspected she’s autistic too, (I’m both so I’m not pulling it out of my ass), elon is autistic too so that’s probably why they get along so well. I don’t want to infantilise her cause she’s spoken on how she hates it (and I hate it when people equate neurodivergence = immaturity) but she’s always struck me as really naive & trusting. I fear she’s got a sunk cost fallacy with elon, that man is got getting off this earth anytime soon, he’s a fraud, a cheat, and a liar. but as much as I don’t want to blame her for what Elon does, I don’t want to let her off the hook as being under ‘elon’s spell’ cause she’s a grown woman with 2 kids

urgh just read though the Reddit, I didn’t realise she’d gotten so bad (I don’t follow her cause she’s so messy)… anyone got any grimes adjacent musicians that don’t have brain rot?

agree, also I haven’t looked into it cause I don’t want to log into a random site without any preview but this is just for vocals right? grimes’s production is what I’m interested in, and how she uses her voice just like another instrument. (regardless of her lisp) some of her songs are indecipherable because she doesn’t annunciate or buries her vocals in the mix… but they’re bops this is really embarrassing to admit but until I looked it up I didn’t realise she started singing in french in art angels I thought she was just being grimes

it’s the 4th anniversary of love + fear, and you know what? we loved and we feared

the lack of live performances doesn't surprise me, she's never really liked it and she's spoken about an unhinged stalker who threatened to murder her had turned up at one of her shows. I'm sure that's probably worse now she's associated with the muskrat & touring won't ever be easy with young children. I think she does like music (she’s making lots, just not releasing it) but she just tries too do so much that is gets overwhelming with her ADHD, she called darq souls an engineering nightmare (that's why it wasn't released) so it wouldn't surprise me if that happens often. I think because her MO is to do it all herself (with the exception of mastering/engineering and some other bits I think) she's dug herself a hole she can't get out of. violence was a bop and she had help with that so if she wants to not do everything herself I'm fine with that I realised I'm probably giving her more credit than she deserves though

I'd love it if she did a surprise drop, especially if none of the songs have already been leaked, then maybe we won't have people that have listened to the demos a million times in the run up saying 'it's aged' when it's only been out a week

The other half of Miss A... why didn't she release it, it was DONE

I feel like she probably has hundreds if not thousands of unreleased songs stretching back since she first started, though she's lost a lot of them now iirc. it's so annoying that we never get to hear any of them in any capacity

honestly I used to really give her the benefit of the doubt because she's got kids (like yes she is in a privileged position to be able to afford a nanny to look after them 24/7, but she shouldn't have to do that and potentially miss out on her children's first words/steps etc if she doesn't want to!) but now she's independent and isn't tied to doing a conventional album release, I really don't understand why she can't just put random songs on bandcamp and drop photoshoots (like she does anyway?) and let her fans create her albums for her if her perfectionism is getting in the way people do that with Lana's unreleased in between getting actual albums on a regular basis lol, yes they wouldn't be on spotify/apple music but girl we want literally anything...

that’s not what Jess’ interview made it out to be, but imo it was a case of bad timing and nothing to do with her being pregnant. Marina said during the Q&A where Jess interviewed her she hates being called underrated as it makes her feel like she’s doing something ‘wrong’ and in the same interview Jess was talking about how she goes into meetings like ‘this is the most underrated artist of all time’ so I think Marina’s post-froot ideals didn’t work with Jess

I can see how stan culture could get tiring but the alienation of her fanbase was her biggest mistake, and made the stans worse because ‘she hates us anyway’. (I’m not meaning to sound like I’m victim blaming, that’s what they say) if she kept ‘marina and the diamonds’ and kept up engagement I personally believe she could have weathered L+F but it was too many nails in the coffin and it started the whole era on the wrong foot. I remember when she was going to do a Q&A then had technical difficulties, she didn’t say ‘sorry I’ll try again another day’ she just said nothing for hours (people were waiting up cause they didn’t want to miss it) then deleted the tweet and never said anything. like yes it’s not her responsibility that teenagers in a different timezone were staying up late but y’know, they just wanted to ask her a question, it’s to be expected she based her whole FROOT campaign on her fanbase promoting her album it seems so weird that she either doesn’t seem to know how it works anymore or deliberately ignores it. it’s her hardcore dedicated fans that buy all her merch (like a £20 tiny candle) and vinyls that fund her, not the casual listeners that heard primadonna on TikTok. her fanbase is especially important now she’s independent, I can’t see her paying out for a promotional campaign.

tbh I wonder how much of it is her mental health actually being better vs not wanting to sing about it anymore. it could get a bit re-traumatising, maybe that’s why she’s never sung buy the stars or weeds for example? because there’s not just writing the lyrics which might be quite therapeutic, there’s having to listen to a bunch of demos/mixes about it, and months/years later having to sing it on tour on a nightly basis for weeks and fans always bringing it up/tweeting lyrics at you

I agree, she's admitted in a few interviews she can't write in the same way as she used too, she used to write from somewhere specific and now she writes more generally. personally I would like to see her to move into making 'concept albums' if she doesn't want to touch on her personal life, akin to folklore by taylor or all the gods we can touch by aurora. I don't mean that I want her to don a wig and start playing electra heart again. (although I think electra heart is the type of woman to fake her death, I'm not really sure what marina could actually do with that.) she could just dress up for music videos and the album shoot, as she's touched on how draining becoming and being electra heart was and this would keep it to a minimum. imo she just thrives when she has a concept to work on, and I think that's what was missing with L+F and ADIAML. purge the poison (excluding the verses from her perspective) is a really good example of how well she works when she's using a different lens (mother nature) and ADIAML too.

this is a bit weird considering she tweets like, once a month

in man’s world she mentioned a hotel owned by a sheik that killed thousands of gay men, then proceeded to go to that hotel after the song was released. she posted it to her Instagram with ‘campest hotel in LA’ so she was pretty shameless about it.

I didn’t mean to come off as too harsh I do think she’s mostly a good person but I feel like she’s saying things she thinks we want us to hear rather than things than actually resonate with her like in the case of the hotel thing, she’s profiting off her LGBT fanbase with an image of ‘being an activist’ or ‘shining a light on LGBT issues’ whilst directly putting money into the hands of a person literally killing LGBT people. if she never mentioned it, then we wouldn’t know and wouldn’t hold her to that standard if that makes sense? I would prefer she talked about thrifting or something cause she actually cares about that I thought we were getting more poetry soon but her tweet about bees is a quote from a book apparently

that's true, I forgot to mention that, it's a combo of the two imo. I just get this sense she doesn't know what to do with herself, if L+F was better received I think she would have put out whatever she had in mind M5 then retired in favour of songwriting (which she's mentioned in interviews, but not recent ones). although she says she doesn't mind 'being underrated' and being comfortable where her career is, I feel like she has this urge to end 'on a high' (who wouldn't?) but she can't connect to her fans about what this 'high' is. imo she genuinely doesn't seem to understand why people (not me personally) wanted savages 2.0 but don't like her political songs now. like you said, what's relatable about being a 'millionairess' in LA taking pictures next to your pool when there's a global cost of living crisis? she used to be so switched on and now she's so out of the loop, which is 'fine' if you never post about politics on your social media, (I don't buy into the want for celebrities/influencers to weigh in on everything), but she desperately wants to be seen as some kind of activist whilst posting ill researched tweets

she's so annoying, her tweet after that was 'Is anyone else also perfectly happy doing nothing?' idk how to word this without sounding unsympathetic (tbh I suppose I am a little) but she's talked about how social media makes her stressed but then she'll post something she knows will make her fans go wild.. I know stans will go feral at the slightest provocation, but she doesn't help herself when she does stuff like this anyway, bets on her ignoring L+F's 4th anniversary? it's not a 'special' one after all. I was thinking the other day what terrible timing it was with the pandemic right after, to me it still sort of feels like 2020 and she just released this album recently ADIAML felt like an EP whilst we wait for a 'proper' album, which imo she just put that album ASAP so she could get out of contract

I want her to do something but I’m also scared of her doing something

we're never getting it she did a paid Q&A after her ADIAML concert in the desert and a fan asked her about it (and luckily recorded so we 100% know it happened) she said: like girl, it was leaked when you promised it in 2019, and when you registered it in 2020... imagine if that fan didn't screen record, we'd literally never know. Marina's brand of promising things then never addressing it again if/when she changes her mind has possibly got to be her most infuriating trait, though tbh idk how she would/could climb down from this, I bet she has 'INHA' and 'I'm not hungry anymore' muted in her comments maybe in 2025 for FROOT 10 year deluxe!!!

honestly I really like the sentiment of this one, and the last slide, obviously it's much better than the last one, but overall it's still not a great poem imo. the first 5 lines feel like a separate poem, she should have started it at 'I liked being adored' and saved that first bit for something else. whilst this one is also designed better, (she did it herself this time) the formatting with the random lines to the side does not help the poem at all. if they had a double meaning when you read the bits off to the side separately then that would be ideal but they don't. hoping the next one will be better again, she always picks questionable first singles so what were we expecting really. also marinabook, forgotten about again.

reminds me of this tweet honestly: bands are always like “big things brewing👀” and it’s always just songs or something. that’s not big things, that’s what you did last time.

yes I know, sorry I should have made that clear, I was thinking about a more Rick/Dr. Luke(🤢) pop version that demo sounds more of a homage to ‘die Life’ to me, which is when part of it was originally written it’s weird her sessions with Stargate were such a washout, (eternity regrettably scrapped, bitn scrapped, radioactive arguably not really produced by them) but by her own account she was made to sit in a back room to write by herself whilst they just showed her some instrumentals so I’m not surprised

I agree that she probably forced herself to write it, I do like some of the lyrics of superstar, ‘my love is a planet revolving your heart’ is cute. I think the production lets it down, mostly the post-chorus, the demo is slower and less heavy on the drums, I was hoping we’d get a ‘proper’ acoustic version sung by marina

I wonder how radioactive would have faired if it had production more in line with the other tracks on Electra Heart, by her own account it fits lyrically but not sonically