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She’s gonna rework the Bird World title into Build Wall

new album title is going to be Make America Gator Again

Reworked lyrics is the swamp in your eyes, anti-vaxxer? do the trans-coloured flags light your fire? we are Trumpy crocodiles They will never understand the kind of people you and I am bow your hands and crack your cans we are redneck cosplayers Cosplaying rednecks

his nails are giving diabetes

I would have done exactly the same thing if a male artist I admired had married a transphobic woman, while I understand your view on the bigger discourse that women have it worse when it comes to being judged negatively, this would have not been the case with me personally. It happened to be about Lana because she’s the one artist I’ve stanned most of my adult life. As for the trans discourse and the first part of your comment regarding Lana as a person, one thing is to have a random connection to a minority-hating bigot you’ve happened to meet at a dinner party, an entirely different thing is to marry them. Or even be close friends with them. It’s not that nuanced. Would you choose to marry someone who has shown they would - idk - randomly harm members of the Jewish community just because of what the Israeli government is doing to Palestinian people? It’s not just about Trump, it’s not about liking dogs rather than cats. It’s about being anti-trans (can’t imagine what he thinks about the queer community), it’s about being anti-vax, it’s about being able to coexist within the possibilities of those realities with somebody who upholds those beliefs and that does represent a measure of a person’s character, no matter how articulate she’s been. She was articulate when she posted that rant about Kanye and she married a Trump supporter. I see your point but I really don’t know what else to add to this, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

you know what? I won’t argue with this because you’ve made a good point and since - as a non English native speaker - I’ve learned to use “btch” as a neutral word for both sexes I never gave it much of a thought when it came to using it. Having said that, I also have a question for you: do you really think that the whole conversation was about “disagreeing with life choices” ? why did you feel the need to go into extreme details over the use of hate speech but didn’t really focus on the implication of suggesting that harming trans people could be seen as a “life choice”?

oh please y’all need to stop using buzz words out of context, learn the meaning of misogyny before using it in a sentence. yes some of us are disappointed and vocal about it because we have friends who are trans or some of us (not myself but it shouldn’t really matter) are trans. these people have invested time and spent money and energy on her, on attending shows and supporting her art. it might come as a surprise to you but some marginalised communities and minorities DO indeed feel emotionally involved with the artists they support more than your average cis-het white Jane/John Doe because the mere fact of our existence is constantly questioned and at risk so no, it’s not easy to just be like “oh I supported this artist for 13 years of my life and I’m only now finding out she married an openly violent transphobic ass, but no biggie, it’s not her, it’s him”. And who are you to tell us we have nothing to do here just because you can’t handle the heat? Yes she a dumb btch I’ll say it again

bye if I got involved with a trans-beating homophobe I would get what’s coming to me - “a public image shows a little of the true person somebody is” 💀 do you need the man to go live while beating a trans person to a pulp or … ? 😭 y’all bfr take your pink glasses off Lana is NOT who we thought she was

yep. the truth has unfortunately been hitting me real hard in the past few days. we have been defending her against all odds through each controversy believing in her good faith but nope, she was just venting from the height of her white millionaire privileged ass, unwilling to learn and cosplaying ordinary woman and we ran with it despite signals showing she didn’t really give a fck about marginalised communities except when it literally damaged her reputation (the Indian headwear and the qftc - poc issue) . this has been a hard lesson for me and I fear there’s no coming back. I’m way past denial.

lmao the crystals debacle sent me fcking flying - I had a hint of her brain rot with the mesh-mask but I chose to ignore. then the post about Tessa “lifting her cough remotely” I was like how was I so blind this bitch is really that dumb? 💀 and now the crystals, ma’am way too much coke fried your brain

yeah, away from her hypocritical ass

girl I don’t know you and I don’t mean to be a dick but he reposted the picture of a trans person beaten up into a pulp suggesting it was okay to do that if he had found them in the same public toilets as his daughter, are you okay? we literally do not need to know ALL the facts, like that ONE fact would be enough for literally anyone with a single brain cell to get the gist of his character and stay tf away from him, instead she decided to marry him. I’m sorry but your examination of why and how we worship celebs has little to do with this, she has simply shown her true colours, just another brand of straight white privileged hypocrite and the mere fact of having written a whole paragraph going for Kanye’s throat for supporting Trump and then getting in bed with a Trump supporter like this fact itself would shame her into oblivion if it came up in interviews (which I’m betting you her management will pay magazines for it to never be asked). Revolting. I’m just surprised at how this shitstorm hasn’t hit IG yet and her comments are still lukewarm.

Omg if this is true I fear she clocked her real bad and tbh it’s deserved down to the last word but it’s weird that she’s writing about herself in the third person - is this her official account?

are you sure that’s her TikTok handle? I can’t find it

I’m so sorry that you’re going through this and it really is beyond me how some members in here who are probably queer or hopefully ally at the very least are just doing backflips trying to justify this mess. their inability to wear someone else’s shoes is shocking. do they think if they made a move on him as, say, a gay man at a bar he would think twice before knocking their teeth out? Now his ex fiancé is coming out saying she was shocked he married Lana one month only after ending their 12 years engagement - THIS is the man she’s decided to marry. in the words of Chapell, good luck babe.

once again y’all confusing politics with human rights. in an ideal world, that wouldn’t even be up for discussion. Unfortunately in the real world, right wing parties have always been associated with integralist propaganda, xenophobia, transphobia, homophobia and an overall disinterest - when not downright hatred - towards minorities. Therefore no, they did not clock shi. The only narrow-minded way of thinking is that of someone who thinks that posting a trans person that was suggested to have been beat-up for using public women toilets can be brushed off as “wild thought: people are more than their political views”. Here’s a wild thought for you (if you’re part of the community): read the room, until she doesn’t clear this up, your fave would rather turn a blind eye to her husband suggesting he would beat the shit out of a trans person (and let me tell you we don’t even know what his views are on immigrants, gun control, abortion) than have her little house in the prairie white family life fantasy ruined.

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thanks for pointing that out, I’m not an avid listener of MM, I’m not a fan of his and I didn’t know that he was a known abuser. I listen to some of his songs here and there from time to time. but I won’t say that doesn’t make a difference because it does. what I mean is I don’t have a “13 year history” with his music on an everyday base the way I have had with Lana’s music, so of course this will affect me more. If I stop listening to MM point blank right now it won’t change anything to me, the same won’t apply to Lana’s music, it is painful to “break up” (for lack of a better word) with someone whose music you’ve related to throughout the years

yeah too bad he’s doing all the work himself 💀

ew once was enough I’m going in on Marilyn Manson hard today that’s how mad the biatch got me also fjm dropped a song called Screamland and it’s gorgeous

I’ll be an over dramatic drama queen like the Italian southerner I am but I honestly feel huge detachment from her right now, I’ve been riding with her for 13 years and right now even looking at her albums on Spotify kinda repulses me, let alone listen to her music. And before some of you come for me with that parasocial narrative, this is just me sharing a feeling of disappointment as a part of the queer community.

A-fcking-MEN

oh Jack was tonguing his cousins and showing his tiddies we were in heaven and did not know it

gentleman is a choice of word but I’ll let that slide for the moment. most of us have issues with his views and what he shared online, violence against trans people in particular, and supporting trump. the truth is Lana has never been truly involved in supporting the queer community, really any minority whatsoever, except the black community and that was only because it served her purpose because she was getting dragged left and right over Qftc so she posted that laughable pinky finger post and wrote textbook. I’m sorry to be so bitter over this but she truly is showing colours I do not like. And I’m saying this as a fan since 2012. I’ve always had the feeling Lana was a bit out of touch because of her privilege but it never really bothered me too much. Now it does and unfortunately I can’t help it.

I will assume you’re 15 and I won’t elaborate further as to why your comment is an absolutely meaningless reply