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Who else is tired of seeing the girls dress up while the boys dress down? 

I love Radio, especially the demo, which is the version i will talk about. That opening is like an explosion of Skittles shooting up into the sky--that silly fake harp, the digital finger snaps, that bass drum that drops, and  the drone that sounds like you’re warping through a happy wormhole--and you just know that the next three and a half minutes are going to be blissful. I think the album version really dropped the ball by changing the way the songs starts. Anyway, this recording just has such a perfect feel, something that i think is hard to capture in songs, but once you have it, it’s like you can do no wrong with a song. It’s like if the song was half a BPM different or one instrument was mixed a tiny bit too loud or too low, it might all come crumbling down. But fret not, because it’s perfect. That chorus is pure gold. It’s so airy and light, that must be the music that plays when you’re skipping on clouds. The double tracked vocals are like an auditory candy bar. And the vocoder is amazing, let’s throw a fucking vocoder on here and have it panning back and forth, Lizzy, this song needs to be even more perfect. I love the little cheap sounding 8th note hi-hat rhythm throughout the song--it sounds like something a kid sitting in their bedroom would have playing from their battery powered Casio in 1991, trying to make a great song. And, finally, those counter melodies on the synth during the last chorus are like flying into the sunshine. But, like ataraxia mentioned, there is an underlying sadness that pokes through a little, and that is one of my favorite qualities in pop music. 

I still like the album version (which is built around the basic tracks of the demo) but you-know-who fiddled around with it too much and, i think, lost some of that feel from the demo. Still though, probably his least offensive reworking.

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Gosh, finally. I was member of the week for a quarter of a fucking year. Do you know how glad and relieved i am that this is over? All hail evilentity. That opening paragraph was in true evil fashion, Sitar, good work. Evil, give Daddy Issues another chance, it’s so good! Also, have i ever mentioned that Lanaboards sometimes reminds me of being in a Hieronymus Bosch painting? 

I am a big fan of the DUKE's preciseness. 

What are the dimensions? Like how big is it lengthwise and widthwise.

I'll measure it out when I get home in a few hours, promise!

Will you two stop with your macho insecurity already? There's more to a man than his cock size.  

can someone who is going on tour buy me the book and i'll pay them for it

I don't think any of us are touring.

On being called anti-feminist: “I get it. It looks like I’ve chosen a path of submission. But I’m a modern day woman in so many senses. I pay my way and work hard for things but it is my choice that at the end of the day I have a dominant male in my life that is hands-on. Someone who wants what he wants the way I do. I get so tired of trying to have it only my way, it’s nice to have someone else who also has their life and opinions. I have to be so assertive in life that its nice to feel escape through a really passionate romance.”

Sounds like she's been reading Lanaboards and taking a cue from some of our members' responses to the feminism issue  . And considering that the writer got her age right, maybe some magazines have been reading LB too 

Voy a la mierda por todos lados.

Yeah, Google translate is not doin' it for you, Loon. Try again, ASSHOLE. 

I dislike how its volume is higher in some parts and lower in others.

    But...but...DYNAMICS are an essential and fundamental component of music, sorely lacking in so many popular forms of music that it's almost miraculous when we do get it. What, do you dislike melody too?     

I don't understand what makes this so much worse than her other a cappellas ( ). They're always awesome with her harmonizing with herself. To think, based on what she's said in interviews, Summertime Sadness and Cola began this way. And now Daddy Issues?! Count me second in line.

Oooh, i didn't know that she said this about Summertime, but it's not surprising. She must have hundreds of these from over the years. She is probably always recording little snippets of ideas as they come to her. This is a common way for how a lot of non-musicians work. And i bet there are many songs that have multiple snippets--variations of the same idea, a verse here, a chorus there, a bridge. Maybe she even has stuff where she's singing out parts for instruments. I bet that what's currently in the possession of people--whether it's traders, hoarders, family, friends, and ex-boyfriends, producers, etc.--is only a fraction of what she's recorded. Whether they all still exist or have since been lost to time is another thing. 

I think it's great to have these opportunities to be a fly on the wall and get glimpses of the early idea stage of her process, as we do with these a cappella demos. What a treat these clips of her messing around on her laptop. This is the most unfiltered Lana Del Rey we will ever have. And what's wrong with y'all, those harmonies at the end, as is always the case with these a cappella demos, are great. I will be first in line to buy the laptop a cappella demos box set. Give me everything, every last scrap. 

What about her low notes in the outro? Those were like the cries from Lana's ghost after her lover got taken away. "UUUHH OHHHH UHHHH AHHH". Now: I sing the body electric, baby. I sing the body electric, baby. I sing the body electric, baby. I.. sing the body eletric,... baabyyyyy! :l

 

 

WHY LANA?

Yeah, aside from all the omissions, my other big complaint about the studio recording is that she repeats "I sing the body electric" too many times, especially toward the end, at which point it feels a bit exhausting, and where the song really needed to breathe and just surrender itself to that chilling, lyrical string outro. The vocals over that last section, i feel, really take away from the music and stifle it. I think she had it all right the first time around :/  I find it frustrating to trace the progression of this song, how it initially had a magic to it, some strange, ineffable quality, and then, i think, it just got overworked and they kind of botched it up. Hmmm, story of Lana Del Rey's art? 

I think the current live version draws on the song's early live arrangement. 

I think those drums stink. The low, menacing piano octaves are gone. The string arrangement in the second verse has since changed a lot (for the worse). The string outro has been truncated. She now sings the song in a very inhibited manner. All the magic of those details in the early version has been totally stripped away. I mean, melodically it's still there, but the current arrangement sounds like it could be a song off of In Utero. No thanks. 

Body Electric, since the first time i heard the live performance from last summer, has always sounded to me like madness. Those first performances were tapping into something higher, something transcendent, even on a purely musical level--it's like encoded in those melodies. It was a shame that the album version didn't capture it.

But...the previous title was more descriptive and accurate, as this thread is about more than just proper nouns. 

Man, home on a Friday night debating thread titles on a music forum...

Lana and proper nouns. 

Black Beauty 

I just want to state that my only problem with this list--without actually having really looked through the whole thing (come on, let's be real, i haven't even heard of the people in numbers 3-15, except for Cheryl Cole [just because of this forum] and Taylor Swift)--is that Rihanna is not at number 1  I really don't get the Mila Kunis fascination at all.  

La dee da, back to my little rock. 

I don't know what does this mean, if Lana wrote lyric and melody what does Justin Parker do? I took this from Paradise iTunes US Booklet

He wrote the chord progression and the structure of the song. In addition to a Producer credit, Robopop should be credited as writers as well because they wrote everything else you hear in the final arrangement of the song, things that, in my opinion, exceed just arranging. 

If he was the producer then his only job would really have been to record the Audio and help edit the song together

You're confusing an engineer and a producer, although in this case, Robopop, the producer(s), was also the engineer(s). 

However, it's not just what he does that I think deserves criticism, but how he does it, which I don't think you can pin on Lana. 

I agree with that. 

You know, the Nazis were just following orders too.

Yeah, you're helping my point. That is, LANA IS HITLER. This is my ultimate Lana confession, you guys. 

MOAR Godwin's Law.

 

Cute interview.. she was little orphan annie ^_^

Oh my god, this is the first time she mentions any specifics on the Beach Boys.

 

I’m more of a singles person. I love The Beach Boys’ “Fun, Fun, Fun”

 I knew it. I’m telling you, her favorite Doors song is Light My Fire.  

Does anyone have a clue about what sort of cell does Lana have now? 

For a solid two seconds i thought you were referring to prison. 

i feel like that may be a fan's phone. sometimes fans that meet her ask her to talk to their friends on the phone. idk why else she would be talking to someone on the phone while talking to fans

That has to make the list of top 10 most awkward things ever. 

Where can I find them because I had no clue until now.

They're in your pipes. But not under your sink, they're in the hard to reach pipes in the walls. I think you need to call a plumber. Let us know how that goes. 

You know, I'm not saying that making a harmless joke about it once in a while is bad, because in context it is pretty funny sometimes. But I am so annoyed to see him blamed for everything which is supposedly is not working out the way it should. 

That is, verbatim, what i was trying to express. Thank you for expressing it so succinctly. 

Ben apologists   

Ha. I am going to get a kick out of seeing the collective reaction of this forum when one day it is revealed that the driving force behind Ben's iron fist managing was one Elizabeth Woolridge Grant and her desire for things to be handled in that manner. 

Have you guys thought about that one? What if all the shit that pisses us off about Ben is simply the result of fulfilling Lana’s requests? If they are as close as it seems, and she truly does regard him as highly as she’s indicated, why would their interests always be in conflict? 

Heroes & Villains 

Been considering merging them so that the Unpopular Opinions thread is less inherently...bad...

 

Any opinions on this?

I personally wouldn’t. I think the topics and their aim are distinct enough from each other. I was just unsure where to put mine because it’s both an unpopular opinion and a confession of sorts (though neither directly about Lana). Also, remember that if you merge them, since the two threads have been running concurrently for a while, it’s going to turn into The Clusterfuck Thread Part 2 because all the posts would be ordered chronologically, so it would jump back and forth between posts from both threads, making it a very confusing thread to read through for those coming in late. 

U guyz r all trollz 

Everybody knows it's a joke/meme/metaphor and is using it that way, right?

I don't know if that's the case for sure. I, in part, wrote what i did because i wonder often if there are some people who do take a lot of the Ben stuff as reality. Also, because i think that, in general, after time, it's easy for people to start seeing someone who was jokingly painted as a villain as an actual "villain." That kind of stuff has the tendency to become increasingly nebulous and gradually morph into something else after so much repetition. Also, we don't know much of anything about those specific people involved with the behind the scenes stuff, but we do know Ben's name and position, so it's an easy way to attach a name/face to all these things that we don't like, and dump it all on the one figure who we can easily point out. Anyway, i wasn't by any means calling for an end to this forum joke/meme, nor was i claiming that Ben hasn't done anything that warrants criticism...i was just quibbling more so about the nature of exaggeration and assumption in a thread dedicated to expressing these sort of not-so-commonly-expressed opinions. 

Oy, i am talking too much and annoying myself now.