Norman Fucking Rockwell - Pre-Release Thread

[Nobody]

  On 12/19/2018 at 4:38 PM, Igloo AustraIia said:

I mean why?? she has payed him, she owes nothing to him. lana "owns" the artistic vision and if it doesn't fit she can scrap it.

like she owes nothing her producer, just the money for the labour he offered (which I guess she pays him??? bc Lana is a decent human being??? idk)

also i doubt lana cares about wasting money lmao

 

I think the record label usually pays for producers. Jack's probably cost them quite a bit more than Grandpa Rick so they wouldn't let her scrap it now, not that she would anyway. 

[Charlottexseax]

  On 12/19/2018 at 4:56 PM, Nobody said:

I think the record label usually pays for producers. Jack's probably cost them quite a bit more than Grandpa Rick so they wouldn't let her scrap it now, not that she would anyway. 

 

yeah, i didn't mean it as money out of her pocket but yeah thats right

my point still stands tho, regardless of how many songs somebody produces, as long as they're paid they're happy. lana has no obligation whatsoever not to scrap the album

[bored]

  On 12/19/2018 at 4:56 PM, Nobody said:

I think the record label usually pays for producers. Jack's probably cost them quite a bit more than Grandpa Rick so they wouldn't let her scrap it now, not that she would anyway. 

 

Plus, even if she had've scrapped all the original Jack material (hypothetically) in favour of new music, we know she was working with Jack on country music. So get ready.

 

Hey Blue Baby coming January 11th from the forthcoming album Buffalo Fucking Bill, available June 22nd!

[bored]

  On 12/19/2018 at 5:00 PM, Igloo AustraIia said:

yeah, i didn't mean it as money out of her pocket but yeah thats right

my point still stands tho, regardless of how many songs somebody produces, as long as they're paid they're happy. lana has no obligation whatsoever not to scrap the album

 

I mean it depends on the label situation I think, I imagine there's contracts and legalities between Interscope and Jack, and some producers only give the label the rights to the music on the grounds of it having to be released.

 

I'm sure it would ultimately be Lana's decision (whether she releases the music or not), but it wouldn't be in her best interest as an artist, the label would be frustrated to think they'd funded months of sessions with a big name producer for the whole body of work to be scrapped and ultimately they'd be at a loss and I imagine it could damage her relationship with her label.

 

Just putting this out there: but maybe something like this happened with Lana during the Ultraviolence era, in terms of visuals. I remember her shooting the UV video and then scrapping it in favour of a new director and then there were no more visuals that era for the singles and the budget for Honeymoon visuals were clearly limited too.

 

But also as a professional artist; it would make Lana look bad when approaching other producers in the future. She'd be labelled a risk, imagine being a producer and  committing time, money and energy into a project (often passing up opportunities to work with other artists) for her to decide to scrap everything at the end.

[Nobody]

  On 12/19/2018 at 5:00 PM, bored said:

Plus, even if she had've scrapped all the original Jack material (hypothetically) in favour of new music, we know she was working with Jack on country music. So get ready.

 

Hey Blue Baby coming January 11th from the forthcoming album Buffalo Fucking Bill, available June 22nd!

 

Featuring yodelling Walmart kid 

[Beautiful Loser]

  On 12/19/2018 at 5:08 PM, Nobody said:

Featuring yodelling Walmart kid 

Can't wait for them both to enter the Coachella stage together next year!

[Charlottexseax]

  On 12/19/2018 at 5:07 PM, bored said:

I mean it depends on the label situation I think, I imagine there's contracts and legalities between Interscope and Jack, and some producers only give the label the rights to the music on the grounds of it having to be released.

 

I'm sure it would ultimately be Lana's decision (whether she releases the music or not), but it wouldn't be in her best interest as an artist, the label would be frustrated to think they'd funded months of sessions with a big name producer for the whole body of work to be scrapped and ultimately they'd be at a loss and I imagine it could damage her relationship with her label.

 

Just putting this out there: but maybe something like this happened with Lana during the Ultraviolence era, in terms of visuals. I remember her shooting the UV video and then scrapping it in favour of a new director and then there were no more visuals that era for the singles and the budget for Honeymoon visuals were clearly limited too.

 

But also as a professional artist; it would make Lana look bad when approaching other producers in the future. She'd be labelled a risk, imagine being a producer and  committing time, money and energy into a project (often passing up opportunities to work with other artists) for her to decide to scrap everything at the end.

 

yeah i know, i was just stating that there's no moral or legal obligation not to scrap the album. it's not a wise move for her career, of course

[Future Jazz]

Cinnamon and Sylvia still are THAT bitches that it’s so hard not to play snippets of at least once a week

[lustforlife]

The Evil is defeated

 

https://twitter.com/machinegunkelly/status/1075452416261320704

[Cacciatore]

  On 12/19/2018 at 6:29 PM, lustforlife said:

The Evil is defeated

 

https://twitter.com/machinegunkelly/status/1075452416261320704

 

Whelp I wanted him to release the Lana duet just so we could have a solo edit of that but yeah...

 

[American Whore]

  On 12/19/2018 at 5:07 PM, bored said:

I mean it depends on the label situation I think, I imagine there's contracts and legalities between Interscope and Jack, and some producers only give the label the rights to the music on the grounds of it having to be released.

 

I'm sure it would ultimately be Lana's decision (whether she releases the music or not), but it wouldn't be in her best interest as an artist, the label would be frustrated to think they'd funded months of sessions with a big name producer for the whole body of work to be scrapped and ultimately they'd be at a loss and I imagine it could damage her relationship with her label.

 

Just putting this out there: but maybe something like this happened with Lana during the Ultraviolence era, in terms of visuals. I remember her shooting the UV video and then scrapping it in favour of a new director and then there were no more visuals that era for the singles and the budget for Honeymoon visuals were clearly limited too.

 

But also as a professional artist; it would make Lana look bad when approaching other producers in the future. She'd be labelled a risk, imagine being a producer and  committing time, money and energy into a project (often passing up opportunities to work with other artists) for her to decide to scrap everything at the end.

 

While I agree and this is true, it would label her a risk, do you think she hasn’t been already? Yeah she’s recently worked with the same producers for the most part, but a lot of her unreleased stuff was made by completely random producers. She doesn’t take well to being forced to work with someone she doesn’t want to and with this one, she really enjoys working with Jack. You can see it in their interactions when they’re together

[Flowerbomb]

  On 12/19/2018 at 6:29 PM, lustforlife said:

The Evil is defeated

 

https://twitter.com/machinegunkelly/status/1075452416261320704

 

oh no..what a shame..

 

[annedauphine]

ifdrtfghjk I have the hugest contradiction spirit and now every single fibre in my body converges towards one goal, hearing it. thanks a lot richard colson baker

[Terrence Loves Me]

she sure is taking her sweet ass time

[American Whore]

  On 12/19/2018 at 7:03 PM, Terrence Loves Me said:

she sure is taking her sweet ass time

But if we rush her it might sound like shit again ): I have faith and hope but I don’t want rushed Lana

[Blue Velvet Crowbar]

  On 12/19/2018 at 7:36 PM, HydroponicWeeds said:

But if we rush her it might sound like shit again ): I have faith and hope but I don’t want rushed Lana

 

Ya'll know she can't handle pressure 

[UltraHeroin]

Lmao, why do we expect or even hope for her to do something, it's literally one week away from Christmas

[Veinsineon]

  On 12/19/2018 at 5:57 PM, Future Jazz said:

Cinnamon and Sylvia still are THAT bitches that it’s so hard not to play snippets of at least once a week

Still are that bitches that

[FallingCherry]

Every morning I wake up thinking "maybe I'd get less stressed if I was tested less", Sylvia Plath is in my head all the time and it's so hard not to play it, and I had never felt something like that before with just a snippet.

[annedauphine]

Personally I had to make a compromise, since I already have more than a thousand plays on the Cinnamon snippets and I still get light headed at every single play I decided I wouldn't listen to Sylvia or HTD snippets for a while to try to retain a tiny bit of surprise But I already have the the HTD line melody stick in head so. Brb gonna play Cin again