heroindealer Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 flop of a title track NFR as number 15, yikes 5 Quote
OverYourHead Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 Started scrolling and stopped when I saw Lolita at 112?? skipped to number one and really?? Really???? No, I’m all for opinions being opinions but Richard your opinion is wrong 4 Quote
lamms Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 Stargirl Interlude deserved Dayglo Reflection‘s position. It’s her best feature work and we all know it’s true. Spoiler 8 Quote ???????, ??? ??? ?? ?? ???? ?????
slang Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 Gotta hate on music-industry pundits, who think they know something about creativity and the artistic worth of an artist's works just by displaying objective facts about their opinions (as if that were interesting, btw this is just one critic's rankings, so its posture as being "interesting" is kind of a mystery for me). It also seems downright mysogynistic to treat the AKA album (and by implication all the unreleased stuff before or after it) as not fully formed or worthy of her discography (or at least some discography). If you take Mozart's first symphony written when he was not yet a teen, there are 25+ recordings of that. My point is not that she's like Mozart, but just that if an artist turns out to be great, it is a very natural thing (for male artists, at least) to be intensely interested in their early works to see how they got there. In LDR's case, for me, there is also a specific irony of there being as many, or more, early works than later ones, and their subjectively perceived quality (for me again) -- as songs, not necessarily production -- being about the same as her released works. I mean, I would have been just as happy (well happier, actually) seeing Go Go Dancer being no. 1. 4 Quote
BluebirdXO Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, slang said: Gotta hate on music-industry pundits, who think they know something about creativity and the artistic worth of an artist's works just by displaying objective facts about their opinions (as if that were interesting, btw this is just one critic's rankings, so its posture as being "interesting" is kind of a mystery for me). It also seems downright mysogynistic to treat the AKA album (and by implication all the unreleased stuff before or after it) as not fully formed or worthy of her discography (or at least some discography). If you take Mozart's first symphony written when he was not yet a teen, there are 25+ recordings of that. My point is not that she's like Mozart, but just that if an artist turns out to be great, it is a very natural thing (for male artists, at least) to be intensely interested in their early works to see how they got there. In LDR's case, for me, there is also a specific irony of there being as many, or more, early works than later ones, and their subjectively perceived quality (for me again) -- as songs, not necessarily production -- being about the same as her released works. I mean, I would have been just as happy (well happier, actually) seeing Go Go Dancer being no. 1. Go Go dancer don't deserve number one, but I completely agree with your point of view. The worst of all is that this shadow is even being thrown to her discography before L4L. Many critics to praise NFR and COCC said bad things about her earlier work and congratulated her for her evolution. Some things may not be as good or be a complete trash, but it's part of her artistry and who she is. You can't diminish that 1 Quote
evalionisameme Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 Tbf the released Lolita is a noisy mess , the production hurts my ears the superior version 1 Quote
Nobody Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, evalionisameme said: Tbf the released Lolita is a noisy mess , the production hurts my ears the superior version the bassline was the best part 1 Quote
The Stargirl Pinky Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 3 hours ago, lamms said: Stargirl Interlude deserved Dayglo Reflection‘s position. It’s her best feature work and we all know it’s true. Hide contents I wish I could feel myself on a daily basis as much as Lana was feeling herself in this video. Truly iconique 2 Quote
Fingertips Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 Hope as #1? I love the track, but bruh 0 Quote "You can't be a muse and be happy, too. You can't blacken the pages with Russian poetry and be happy." - Blue Banisters Quote I asked Asmodeus (the demon of lust) to make Miley Cyrus suffer. I am not happy with these new developments. After Miley rips off Lana's aesthetic, she bullies Lana into changing her release date. It is infuriating.
nothinggoldcanstay Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 14 hours ago, War In My Mind said: I can forgive the guns and roses slander, but is this happiness at 109? im googling this reporters address at this very moment, i just want to talk Is This Happiness? is a fine ass song. Definitely should've been up there. Lolita should be at the bottom of the list everyone. It's okay---- not amazing. When I listen to it I feel like a 12 year old . 0 Quote
evalionisameme Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 2 hours ago, nothinggoldcanstay said: Is This Happiness? is a fine ass song. Definitely should've been up there. Lolita should be at the bottom of the list everyone. It's okay---- not amazing. When I listen to it I feel like a 12 year old I’d rank quarter of lust for life as worse tbh, I do not think the issue is the song itself, the production was just ruined with too many elements and that Rick James scream 0 Quote
Dark Angel Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 6 hours ago, slang said: Gotta hate on music-industry pundits, who think they know something about creativity and the artistic worth of an artist's works just by displaying objective facts about their opinions (as if that were interesting, btw this is just one critic's rankings, so its posture as being "interesting" is kind of a mystery for me). It also seems downright mysogynistic to treat the AKA album (and by implication all the unreleased stuff before or after it) as not fully formed or worthy of her discography (or at least some discography). If you take Mozart's first symphony written when he was not yet a teen, there are 25+ recordings of that. My point is not that she's like Mozart, but just that if an artist turns out to be great, it is a very natural thing (for male artists, at least) to be intensely interested in their early works to see how they got there. In LDR's case, for me, there is also a specific irony of there being as many, or more, early works than later ones, and their subjectively perceived quality (for me again) -- as songs, not necessarily production -- being about the same as her released works. I mean, I would have been just as happy (well happier, actually) seeing Go Go Dancer being no. 1. i honestly find it strange how often ldrakalg is downplayed, and i'm not just saying that because it's my favorite album by her, if you ever read an article about her and they mention ldrakalg, it's often regarded as a cheap, random album that isn't really a part of her discography, but it's a quality album produced by somebody who's worked with paul mccartney, regina spector, and stevie nicks, so it's not like he's some sort of random guy without credibility, the album itself may not have the most groundbreaking production but it's very diverse in it's sound which a lot of albums just don't do, and it's a valuable, quality album in it's own way, i understand not everyone is going to listen to every project she's ever made, especially if it was before fame, but i agree that it's really silly that they disregard everything she's made before video games 14 Quote
past the bushes Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 ride ranked higher than florida kilos/stargirl/wait for life? 1 Quote
IanadeIrey Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Surf Noir said: i honestly find it strange how often ldrakalg is downplayed, and i'm not just saying that because it's my favorite album by her, if you ever read an article about her and they mention ldrakalg, it's often regarded as a cheap, random album that isn't really a part of her discography, but it's a quality album produced by somebody who's worked with paul mccartney, regina spector, and stevie nicks, so it's not like he's some sort of random guy without credibility, the album itself may not have the most groundbreaking production but it's very diverse in it's sound which a lot of albums just don't do, and it's a valuable, quality album in it's own way, i understand not everyone is going to listen to every project she's ever made, especially if it was before fame, but i agree that it's really silly that they disregard everything she's made before video games Another thing that really bothers me is how so many journalists disregard her creative output prior to 2011 as “plain Lizzy Grant, a failed songwriter” which is incredibly offensive. Not only is “plain” somewhat suggestive of a negative connotation, but it’s also just not true LOL! LDRAKALG is an album full of personality, character, and motifs that have naturally evolved into her later albums. I remember in several interviews from 2011, Lana would very diplomatically defend the album and you could tell she was always a bit perturbed at journalists suggesting she was a different person who did this total 180 in image and sound. Very weird... 13 Quote
evalionisameme Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Surf Noir said: i honestly find it strange how often ldrakalg is downplayed, and i'm not just saying that because it's my favorite album by her, if you ever read an article about her and they mention ldrakalg, it's often regarded as a cheap, random album that isn't really a part of her discography, but it's a quality album produced by somebody who's worked with paul mccartney, regina spector, and stevie nicks, so it's not like he's some sort of random guy without credibility, the album itself may not have the most groundbreaking production but it's very diverse in it's sound which a lot of albums just don't do, and it's a valuable, quality album in it's own way, i understand not everyone is going to listen to every project she's ever made, especially if it was before fame, but i agree that it's really silly that they disregard everything she's made before video games I love LDR aka, it’s a great record and is an essential listen for me personally. 3 Quote
evalionisameme Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 And I agree it is strange that people often dismiss as some cheap badly produced record. I’d rank its production above BTD it’s more concise and less overproduced. 1 Quote
NamiraWilhelm Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 Absolutely agree with number 1. The rest of the list is weird as, but it's so epic in itself that they'd do this? 0 Quote
Dark Angel Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, IanadeIrey said: Another thing that really bothers me is how so many journalists disregard her creative output prior to 2011 as “plain Lizzy Grant, a failed songwriter” which is incredibly offensive. Not only is “plain” somewhat suggestive of a negative connotation, but it’s also just not true LOL! LDRAKALG is an album full of personality, character, and motifs that have naturally evolved into her later albums. I remember in several interviews from 2011, Lana would very diplomatically defend the album and you could tell she was always a bit perturbed at journalists suggesting she was a different person who did this total 180 in image and sound. Very weird... they obviously didn't listen to the album or anything from that era if they label it as "plain" queen of the gas station, jump, mermaid motel, & raise me up are very interesting and exciting lyrically, and that's just ldrakalg, trash magic, axl rose husband, elvis...etc. she was definitely not "plain" 4 Quote
Flowerbomb Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 Wait for Life does NOT deserve to be that low 5 Quote
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