2024 US Presidential Election - Kamala Harris/Tim Walz vs. Donald Trump/JD Vance

[questionfortheculture 592]

1 hour ago, baddisease said:

 

What makes this bad, to you?

 

 

The reason for this agenda is that people of color (especially black people) have much less opportunities to open businessses and do other financial things bc of either a lack of funding or bigotry and bias within big business. Also re: marijuana, despite the fact that marijuana is legal in many areas, people of color are disproportionately punished for possession and use of it and when it became legal, the ability of black people to enter the marijuana industry is STILL limited. It's about attempting to create equity.

Because everybody should have the same access to resources like this 

[Mer 60,607]

This thread not understanding the difference between equity and equality 

[questionfortheculture 592]

1 minute ago, Mer said:

This thread not understanding the difference between equity and equality 

 

"Equity, means everyone is provided with resources specific to their needs to be successful. Equality on the other hand, means everyone is treated the same exact way, regardless of a person's needs or other individual differences"

[Barry 5,850]

Just now, questionfortheculture said:

Because everybody should have the same access to resources like this 

They actually do though, if you look at the points. It's just written in a sneaky way to make black men or people think it's going to help them but it doesn't really have anything to do with them or will be any real benefit to them over anyone else.

It's more writing things like this that is the problem, it's blatantly targetting and aimed at people based on skin colour and creating divide. It'll also fool people who are dumber and anger others, there will be hillbilly types reading it and thinking "they are going to give black guys loans and better healthcare than us" and be black people thinking "this will help me im going to vote for them" when it's not the case.

They should need to explain what they are actually doing.

[questionfortheculture 592]

WE NEED EQUITY TO HAVE EQUALITY

 

1 minute ago, Barry said:

They actually do though, if you look at the points. It's just written in a sneaky way to make black men or people think it's going to help them but it doesn't really have anything to do with them or will be any real benefit to them over anyone else.

It's more writing things like this that is the problem, it's blatantly targetting and aimed at people based on skin colour and creating divide. It'll also fool people who are dumber and anger others, there will be hillbilly types reading it and thinking "they are going to give black guys loans and better healthcare than us" and be black people thinking "this will help me im going to vote for them" when it's not the case.

They should need to explain what they are actually doing.

I hate American politics so much OMG 

[Barry 5,850]

1 minute ago, questionfortheculture said:

WE NEED EQUITY TO HAVE EQUALITY

 

I hate American politics so much OMG 

It's the same everywhere lies and deception but the race angle on American politics is embarrassing.

[questionfortheculture 592]

 

1 minute ago, Barry said:

It's the same everywhere lies and deception but the race angle on American politics is embarrassing.

I just hate politics ig, 

 

also isnt it inheritly racist to make claims your going to do one with for a certain race and not others??

[Barry 5,850]

Just now, questionfortheculture said:

 

I just hate politics ig, 

 

also isnt it inheritly racist to make claims your going to do one with for a certain race and not others??

I'd say it is but it's not really doing that it's only making it look like that on the surface.

 

Like there is no illnesses only black people get, so funding illnesses that affect black people more it's probably still ilnesses that more non black people get than black people since theres more other people. It's for everybody really it's just presented in a way to fool  black people it's for them. Same with the loans, the education and all the other stuff.

[That Venice Bitch 27,637]

1 minute ago, Barry said:

I'd say it is but it's not really doing that it's only making it look like that on the surface.

 

Like there is no illnesses only black people get, so funding illnesses that affect black people more it's probably still ilnesses that more non black people get than black people since theres more other people. It's for everybody really it's just presented in a way to fool  black people it's for them. Same with the loans, the education and all the other stuff.

I mean this in the nicest way possible but this message shows you have very little understanding of race and equity in the United States. Everything you said here is … wrong! America is an obscenely racist country, and the systems it operates under are still very racist and exclusionary. Having Black-focused equity programs is absolutely necessary and frankly, the bare minimum.

[Barry 5,850]

8 minutes ago, That Venice Bitch said:

I mean this in the nicest way possible but this message shows you have very little understanding of race and equity in the United States. Everything you said here is … wrong! America is an obscenely racist country, and the systems it operates under are still very racist and exclusionary. Having Black-focused equity programs is absolutely necessary and frankly, the bare minimum.

It depends on what you think the problem is though or what you think these politicians actually do. Like these things stated there don't do nothing to help black people or for me really the problem poor people.

For me black people in America need help because they are poorer on average and they are like that cause of the racism that lead to them all living in poorer areas where they get worse education and then they are involved more in crime etc same as poor people in every country, they're stuck and it's hard to get out only they are disproportionately there from racism but it doesn't matter who is there or why they should all be being helped.

These people are not going to be helped by being able to get huge loans, they won't get them. They aren't helped by recreational marijuana being legalised or cryptocurency being secured more cause they don't even have any.

If it was me, i'd want to help them by in turn helping all poor people from bad areas.  Thats the main problem.

[Mer 60,607]

The US is still strictly capitalist, so any policy put out is going to be policy to make it easier to succeed in capitalism (loans, entrepreneurial support, etc.), and not policies that could be accused of being socialist by the GOP. 
 

I agree that this is a pretty measly, bare minimum list - but this is where the US is right now, and likely always will be. 

[Barry 5,850]

1 minute ago, Mer said:

The US is still strictly capitalist, so any policy put out is going to be policy to make it easier to succeed in capitalism (loans, entrepreneurial support, etc.), and not policies that could be accused of being socialist by the GOP. 
 

I agree that this is a pretty measly, bare minimum list - but this is where the US is right now, and likely always will be. 

Thats why I think people need to stop taking part in politics.

Apart from a small minority of lunatics nobody likes or trusts these politicians and nobody thinks anything they're doing is right or works yet they keep it going.

[dexter 1,845]

3 hours ago, Barry said:

 

Politics in america is wild, I feel like in Europe this wouldn't be legal to make things for one gender or skin colour or are they just wording it like that, like "for Black Americans" but really just means for anybody but its them they want to see this. As I guess it does say "Black Entrepreneurs and others". I guess it doesn't really exclude other people more like advertising these to a specific group. Still crazy though.

this is insane and low key offensive to black people - and it’s obvious that none of that will actually happen like Harris is grasping at straws here, it’s looking like she’s loosing the race and she needs to secure her lost voter base, black men. 

[Candy Necklace 6,920]

I’m kinda over “leftists” like Hasan Piker who really don’t do anything besides sit in their million dollar homes and fear monger all day long