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Luigi Mangione charged with murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson


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  On 12/10/2024 at 8:44 PM, shadesofblue said:

On a real note, as someone who literally had to change my health insurance because my old one was so bad they almost killed me, I just don’t feel that bad in this situation. I’m not saying people deserve to be killed because they’re doing something unfair and unjust, but it’s really hard to feel much empathy. I’ve also been denied access to see specialists that could have helped me over a decade ago, but because of insurance, wouldn’t let me. There’s so many people in different situations suffering from this, people with life threatening conditions but also people with chronic illnesses who may suffer. Every. Single. Day. For the rest of their lives. Hospitals are restricted on what they can do because of insurance all the time. Seen so many people suffer because of INSURANCE. that’s insane. I get how hard it is to find the right solution because everyone is in a different situation, but CEOs denying people of life saving treatments is absurd and evil. 

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  On 12/10/2024 at 9:34 PM, jaesana said:

I'm just saying.

 

My dad, my favorite person, has to receive a double lung transplant within the next 6 months or he will most likely die.

 

If he got denied, I would want to k some people, too.

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Sending much love to you guys

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  On 12/11/2024 at 1:18 AM, ivory almond said:

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Posted
  On 12/10/2024 at 10:16 PM, barttttender said:

 

So sorry to hear that. :hoe: Fyi, my father had serious lung issues too, so I know exactly what you're going through.

 

Was/is he a smoker? I'm sorry if I'm asking too many questions?

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No, he was never a smoker nor drinker. we don't know how the disease came about.

 

His medication, Ofev, runs $15,000 a month. But we have insurance.

 

America is a mess.

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  On 12/12/2024 at 1:17 AM, Dark Angel said:

 

how does the bottom of that boot taste? 

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like sunshine and lollipops. the overwhelming communal praise and worship for a murderer (in certain spaces...) is insane. anybody who thinks this is the "first step" in some sort of healthcare revolution needs to get a grip sooner rather than later. all this is going to do is increase security measures and stop CEO's from engaging with the public (which would obviously massively slow any kind of structural change in a company). i also think a lot of you fail to understand that when someone is a CEO of a huge company like united healthcare they do not really have any power. decisions are not theirs. all CEO's of companies like that do is uphold and enforce the desires of their board. a wife and two sons did not deserve to lose their husband and father to a mentally unwell assassin and if you think they did you have some sort of mental problem like luigi clearly does

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  On 12/12/2024 at 1:42 AM, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

like sunshine and lollipops. the overwhelming communal praise and worship for a murderer is insane. anybody who thinks this is the "first step" in some sort of healthcare revolution needs to get a grip sooner rather than later. all this is going to do is increase security measures and stop CEO's from engaging with the public (which would obviously massively slow any kind of structural change in a company). i also think a lot of you fail to understand that when someone is a CEO of a huge company like united healthcare they do not really have any power. decisions are not theirs. all CEO's of companies like that do is uphold and enforce the desires of their board

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i get what you are saying, and i'm not necessarily saying that murder is okay or that murdering him was really a good choice, but people are clearly VERY frustrated and upset about the state of healthcare in america, i mean, hardly anyone's sad about that guy dying, many people have been left to suffer or straight-up die due to healthcare companies prioritizing their own wealth and success over peoples' lives, it should not be that way, and i cannot imagine how it would feel to be at risk of dying, or to have to suffer longer due to people in power wanting to profit off of you, and never being able to have enough regardless

 

also, what do you even mean by CEO's not having any power? CEO's are pretty much at the top of their companies, of course they have control, and of course they can make decisions, i'm certain the CEO who was shot knew exactly what his company was doing and how it operated, he likely knew that the company he ran was profiting off of people who were sick, injured, at risk of dying, and clearly it didn't matter to him, you really cannot blame people for not feeling bad for him, many people have died or have suffered far more than they should have, because they can't access proper healthcare, and it should not be that way, peoples' health and their lives should not be profited off of, and if you can't at least acknowledge that, and acknowledge the fact that people are rightfully upset about how healthcare operates, then you've got a problem also

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Posted
  On 12/10/2024 at 8:22 PM, Deadly Nightshade said:

Healthcare is a human right and nothing about that statement to me is political

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actually i think nobody has the "right" to the labor of another human being. healthcare requires highly specialized human labor

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2021/10/25/single-payer-will-worsen-healthcare-workers-plight/#

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  On 12/12/2024 at 10:20 AM, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

actually i think nobody has the "right" to the labor of another human being. healthcare requires highly specialized human labor

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2021/10/25/single-payer-will-worsen-healthcare-workers-plight/#

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Free public healthcare exists in European countries , with healthcare workers being compensated enough and sufficiently for their demanding labor ( there are other instances that are generally the exceptions, like in my country for example , where there are insufficiencies in the public health sector concerning the compensation of healthcare workers due to the ongoing economic crisis BUT health care remains free and really effective ). 

Also Sally Pipes is part of a think tank as I read that one of its main objectives is to push liberal ideology so i can see why she does not agree with Medicare . That does not mean though that a different healthcare system cannot work in the US or that there aren't any other alternatives. In other countries other healthcare systems are living examples of the different directions a country can take. 

 

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Posted
  On 12/12/2024 at 10:20 AM, fl0r1dakil0s said:

 

actually i think nobody has the "right" to the labor of another human being. healthcare requires highly specialized human labor

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2021/10/25/single-payer-will-worsen-healthcare-workers-plight/#

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in developed societies, with the knowledge we have, with the technology we have, people do have the right to assistance when their lives are in danger. or at the very least, they should. if all that progress and knowledge can’t even go towards saving lives easily, i really have no idea what we did it for. millions of qualified workers work every day and have been doing so for centuries, it’s not like someone getting access to healthcare requires a huge sacrifice on society’s part.

 

i can’t comprehend that someone would think that saving lives doesn’t need to be the number one priority. especially after people shared their stories in this thread. the fortune of billionaires doubled since covid started and you think people shouldn’t have the right to healthcare? this is nothing short of absurd to me.

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