the ocean

yeah and for the record when i said "questionable" and "not outright homophobic" i was really playing devil's advocate i guess that went over some people's heads though not directed at OP just quoting for reference

not trying to be a "debbie downer" or anything in the thread (whatever that means) i'm just expressing some concerns and for the record, i very much love the new single & i'm very excited for the album (aside from that interlude)

well i'm certainly skeptical of it considering that he's her pastor and she's spoken about going to him for guidance - and he's also said some... questionable things about lgbtq+ people - nothing outright homophobic but certainly strange and i just don't really have a great feeling about it hoping that you're right and that it's not that significant but i do have a legitimate right to be concerned and i've seen others express the same concern as well

i'm not gonna fully rail on it yet (because i haven't heard it) but i'm genuinely not having a great feeling about that track 5 sermon interlude especially considering some of the pastor's beliefs and i'm lowkey sideeyeing some of the people trying to defend it (and failing) - emphasis on lowkey, it's not out yet (but also lana is DEFINITELY not infallible and some of you need to have that hammered into your cerebellum)

whore is before the sermon song

gonna wait until it’s out in my time zone but i’m very excited

it’s just showing some people (both older & newer fans) to be really immature we don’t need that here - either agree to disagree or gtfo

her magnum opus

are we still arguing about opinions? and that is directed at both sides

honestly the fact that people think that reaching 40 and chart flopping is becoming a legacy act is both sad and borderline misogynistic and i'm not even saying that to defend lana it's just in general cher is a legacy act, jlo is a legacy act, shakira is a legacy act madonna is not a legacy act, beyoncé is not a legacy act, and lana is definitely not a legacy act nn

this is actually not true - summertime sadness peaked at #6 albeit the remix version

posted them a couple pages back

huh well i know that's the song she was referencing and maybe she got the timestamp wrong

don't forget me (by harry nilsson)

oh i didn't know that was her last name - could very well still be an interlude though i'm interested to hear the song knowing she co-wrote it though

amen edit: except jack has produced a few decent songs, bloodpop... is bloodpop

if american whore is the one with the bleachers feature i will look directly into the sun

well it was written by him, and he has claimed involvement in it the signs aren't looking good

here's the link https://music.apple.com/us/album/did-you-know-that-theres-a-tunnel-under-ocean-blvd/1655349115 it's kind of hard to individually screenshot each song but that is where i got the info (you have to right click on each song and then select get info and it's a process)

do we know for sure that jon batiste was involved with that track? also if he was that means that whatever the track that rockefeller isn't is the featured one

apple music

some educated guesses / facts: track 14 is the other interlude (aljosha konstanty is an ambient artist & she's possibly reciting an ann tomberlin quote?) track 10 is the one that either has the SYML sample or feature track 11 has a co-write by RIOPY, a french pianist like @lilac heaven said father john misty is probably just singing on a track i feel like the bleachers track is either track 8 or 13 fingertips could very well be track 9

@lilac heaven i got it to work - reposting this just in case someone actually can't get it to work: 1. the grants [lana del rey & mike hermosa] 2. did you know that there's a tunnel under ocean blvd [lana del rey & mike hermosa] 3. sweet [lana del rey & drew erickson] 4. american whore / a&w [lana del rey & jack antonoff] 5. [lana del rey, judah smith & jack antonoff] 6. [lana del rey & jon batiste] 7. [lana del rey & jon batiste] 8. [lana del rey & jack antonoff] 9. [lana del rey & drew erickson] 10. [lana del rey & brian fennell] 11. [lana del rey & RIOPY] 12. [lana del rey, mike hermosa & benji lysaght] 13. [lana del rey & jack antonoff] 14. [lana del rey, aljosha frederick konstanty, jack antonoff & ann tomberlin] 15. [lana del rey, benji lysaght, mike hermosa & tommy genesis] 16. [lana del rey, mike hermosa & jack antonoff] edit: these are all writing credits not producers credits for anyone confused

it's only letting me do it for the title track edit: nevermind i see it now

can someone post the credits i have no idea where people are getting them? i know they were leaked in eclipse's discord but i haven't seen them posted outside of that