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    ^ Normally, I'd grovel about that too, but I think the lyrics work in the context of the song, instrumental-wise 

    I don't mind the repetition, I just wanted a greater attention to lyricism, which I felt I was present on Ultraviolence

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    thanks for posting this! i feel sometimes i am too critical a fan, and being trapped in the bubble that is lanaboards, i really easily lose of what an anomaly she actually is in the pop world and the unique talent and devotion to her artistry she truly possesses... i'm just too busy ragging on her for all the dumb shit that she says. :creep: and monicker was right about the discourse being great between the more dismissive/skeptical person and the supportive person. that was neato, i think i needed to hear these perspectives to remind me why it is i'm still a fan

    two things i especially liked
    1) the synthesizer is a homage to dre! 
    2) there was this line was something like "lana's just not very good at explaining herself", which i think accounts for 95% of the things i give her shit for 

    here is the obligatory bear gif!
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    Ya, bear things are great  :)

     

    Sorry if I sounded pissy, but I was responding to this weird idea that is in popular culture that there is a way to be successful in the music industry by being pure and accidentally stumbling on success, and then there's Lana, who is a careerist backed by money. If Rob was a multi-billionaire, he still wouldn't have the money of the huge corporations behind the record labels, and if money could buy a career, then major labels would never sign anyone who became a flop. There is nobody at any level of the music industry beyond local bar bands who isn't driven by ambition, and even the artists who seem to go out there with a 'fuck you' attitude are in it for the love by the 'right people',

     

    Nirvana ditched their indie label when they realised they had a shot at the big time, and jumped over to DGC [and to the hot producers of their day], only to discover that selling millions of records meant that there were a lot of shitheads who were singing along at their concerts. Dave Grohl could handle it, Kurt couldn't. Neither of them is morally superior - it's just how different people can be. Lana is a mess of contradictions, but all of them make sense within the context of somebody trying to build a career doing what she is doing.

    I agree with what you said :3

     

    I would like to welcome you to the community, mostly because a) You like bear things and b) you have an animal as your avi!! We need more cool people around LB :flop:

     

    (I have a goal of one day making everyone have animal avis and it has yet to be materialized) 

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    It's almost like she's a human being.

    I was responding to the many people i have seen on this forum who think that lana's sole motivation is to materialize her inner world and pointing out a different facet. yes, she has the very human desire of being respected and admired and there are many dynamic motivations and desires at play. and yeah, these are all very human things, although ultimately, i prefer bear things :flop:

     

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    I don't understand why so many people seem to think that this is so unusual, or specific to Lana. I'll also put my hand up as someone who enjoys being successful and being liked, more than I like being abused, in my work and in my life.

    It's not, but I was trying to clarify that I thought that Lana has both an artistic desire and the desire to be respected/admired as an artist, and the latter largely influences her career decisions 

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    well i wanna know about the underwear of a lot of ppl but i don't actually go around asking them :creep:

     

    overall interesting post btw and one i'm glad for, i'm sure we all secretly get a little wet when evil daddy puts us in line :troll: but i did want to debate one point with you

     

     

     

    i feel like we interpreted this differently. she could throw in the towel and live comfortably off her earnings but she'd probably be miserable anyway. i know it sounds pretentious as hell but lana definitely strikes me as a creative type, definitely some form of artist. my experiences of artists is that they rarely create for others and often don't even create for themselves. it's kind of something internal that drives them to make things, because it brings them some kind of catharsis. in this sense i kind of get what lana means when she says she wants to quit, even if it sounds hypocritical. writing, painting, any form of artistic creation can be simultaneously frustrating and calming. i know she doesn't necessarily love the fame and a lot of the bullshit that comes with it, but i'm also certain she's passionate about her music, which is why i know deep down she won't quit. mostly i think she needs to learn to think before she speaks, particularly to journalists. this doesn't excuse her for having such a big chip on her shoulder and at times acting a little bratty/dramatic, but it's just how i kind of view the whole situation.

    my thoughts are a bit of a jumbled mess, so bear with me

     

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    i get what you mean, but I don't necessarily agree with you. i think she's passionate about her music, but i think she's equally passionate about fame and the prospect of being revered/respected as an artist. 

     

    i think lana LOVES fame. fame is the huge part of the drive that propels lana to do what she does. she lives and thrives for attention, for admiration. what she doesn't like is the negative aspects of fame: the criticism (deserved or undeserved), being subject to slander and lies, scrutiny, etc. she's not like (for lack of a better example), kurt, who probably could've lived in solitude, who felt he didn't deserve the admiration of his fans...

     

    i think she's very success-orientated: perhaps not in the traditional sense of pushing records, selling units and climbing the charts, but in the sense of one day becoming revered, being liked and respected. ( and i don't think it was a coincidence that all of her idols are all these revered, iconic talents, that attained levels of god-like fame and admiration, with fans and/or critics...  (on another note, i find this new found interest in other grunge talents, like her spotify playlist or whatever, to be really disingenuous.... she's never mentioned being strongly influenced by those artists before....)

     

    i also don't think it was a coincidence that lana decided to collaborate with a grammy-nominated artist who had gotten a great reception from the critics for his work. i think she was chasing the critics, tbh. 

     

    my point is that i just don't think that there's this ~pure~ desire to create music and art (gurl was clearly pressed that she wasn't achieving any fame back when gaga was, and there wasn't nothing wrong with that). the real reason why lana's not going to quit is because she's just too hungry for fame and respect. She intentionally seeks out controversy, she's deliberately provocative and subversive. these are intentional acts, and i'm not convinced she does them ~purely for the art~. ha, she would never be able to give up all this to go back to making music on her laptop for herself

     

     

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    A recurring criticism was that her songs about being swept away by love were anti-feminist in their passivity; she contends that she was writing about private, immediate feelings, not setting out doctrine. “For me, a true feminist is someone who is a woman who does exactly what she wants,” she said. “If my choice is to, I don’t know, be with a lot of men, or if I enjoy a really physical relationship, I don’t think that’s necessarily being anti-feminist. For me the argument of feminism never really should have come into the picture. Because I don’t know too much about the history of feminism, and so I’m not really a relevant person to bring into the conversation. Everything I was writing was so autobiographical, it could really only be a personal analysis.”

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  22. Posted

    Whatever, the premise for the song just sounds as petty as fuck, just like So Legit. Hopefully she's exaggerating the content of the song and its limited to a single verse or something.

    And I honestly wouldn't put it past Lana to make a diss track about a 17 year old Lorde. 

    Lana can be like petulant child sometimes, she just gets so butthurt. 

    :facepalm:

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