LanaFlowers

I want both why can't we have both

Same! I used to really hate it but it really grew on me, I love it now. It's so cute (eta: Gramma)

God, I loved that. I know people are sick of the piano ballads but I think they're amazing. How To Disappear was so beautiful live. I'd love for her to do shows like the ones in 2012 the strings and all that.

This to a t. There's not even anything wrong with being "fake", if you're honest about it. Write 10 albums from the perspective of a fictional character you've created. Do shows, give interviews, shoot music videos, show up at events as that fictional character. That's not a lie, that's a project. That's art. You're not trying to fool anyone, you're putting on a show as an artist. A performer. Authenticity is not required. If it was, fiction would not exist. We'd only have documentaries and (non-fake) reality shows on tv. But we don't. Because most of us enjoy fiction presented as fiction. Literally no one thought Oderus Urungus was an actual ancient Scumdogian barbarian. No one called Dave a poser for using that name and putting on a costume to perform. Art doesn't have to draw from reality at all to be interesting or entertaining. Just own it. Do your thing, put on a show, play dress up, and own it.

Ah, yes, who can forget J.K. Rowling insisting she was born a boy named Harry James Potter, attended Hogwarts, defeated Voldemort, and then transitioned to female, changed her name and wrote her autobiography to share what she went through with us Muggles.

a supportive homophobic cult, how wonderful Jane, Stella, Pam, Abel, Klaus, Anna, Jaime, Kyle, Blake, Miles, Dan, Alex, Ashley, Byron, etc didn't seem like homeless drug addicts or schizos to me. She's had problematic friends before the saddie crew, like Azaelia and Courtney, but come on.

@@divebarsinger here it is

And how do we even know she was denied financial support? (no, refusing to give her meth money doesn't count)

Speaking for myself alone, I definitely admit I turned a blind eye to things I shouldn't have ignored. I'm really sorry about that, I mean it. I regret it 100% and I would not do it again. I've learned my lesson. Thank you NFR mess, guess I needed that

Surprisingly, yes I do think there's a chance. Shocking, especially coming from me, I know, but I think it's far more likely to happen than an NFR-related video.

I don't remember everything she's ever said, but yes, I have. It's hard to believe she was never commercially driven. Her constant attempts to make it in the music industry and her obsession with fame indicate otherwise. You're right, she had no way of knowing for sure that she was going to blow up, but that was the plan nonetheless. A plan that had failed before, and could have failed again. But it didn't. In 2010-2011, she wasn't living in a trailer cooking meth & waitressing at Ruby Tuesday's, minding her own business and making videos just for fun. She was making moves. She was meeting with producers, managers, label executives, etc, going from NY to London to LA and back. She didn't wake up to millions of views on her VG video and Jimmy Iovine outside her door begging her to sign a contract. Success didn't happen overnight. She planned it, she worked for it, and she went to great lengths to achieve it. Did I say she was the first to do it? Or the only one? She definitely revived (lel) that trend, but it's been around for centuries, and I think everyone knows that.

Yeah, that's true. She was never a role model, and tbh, the whole role model thing is a bit stupid imo. One of the reasons I hate fame. Can you imagine that pressure of always having to stifle yourself and watch your every move because apparently a bunch of kids & dummies are blindly copying you? The fuck. Like @@divebarsinger said, millions of people are doing it. Children and people who are easily influenced don't need to see Lana do it to think it's okay for them to do it too. Famous (and not-so-famous) vloggers have been promoting this kind of shit for years. It's everywhere. I don't really care about the "impact". I'm worried for her safety, and the safety of the people who didn't ask to be rear-ended or run over by a goddamn lunatic who thinks it's a-ok to sing and dance and let Hillsong Jesus take the wheel (literally).

I can't wait for it to be over

girl... you could kill someone... like i've been tempted to crash my car too, i get it, but putting other people in danger is not cool

She was really killing it

We're not talking about King Diamond here though. This is Lana "So Legit" Del Rey. Someone who has been defending the authenticity of their art for years. Obviously we should have been smart enough to realize she was flat out lying, but well, we weren't. At least some of us, including myself. Call me Boo Boo the Fool, I got played and that's a fact. Kudos to you for not falling for it. You get all the cookies. Happy?

There is a pattern, sadly.

Really not in the mood to overshare again. Not the place anyway. But yeah.

I dislike you so strongly. Considering you're a troll, good job. 12 points to Valerie.

Exactly. Now I feel people like me are just a joke to her. Gutter bitches, sickos with gutter lives that only matter when she decides to imitate us. I'm so disappointed in myself for turning a blind eye to her culture vulture and trauma tourist ways.

I'm sorry, I'm probably just being too sensitive, but it infuriates me. This is how I feel and I can't help it. I understand what you're saying, it might not be a healthy coping mechanism but I'm definitely not in a position to judge, considering my own unhealthy coping mechanisms. We don't all deal with trauma the same way. But the thought of someone NOT having any of that trauma and NOT having suffered through any of these situations, appropriating all that pain to create a ~ tRaGiC & bEaUtiFuL~ damsel in distress persona to tug at people's heartstrings and/or sell albums makes me sick to my stomach. Or just thinking it's "cool", like what the actual fuck

That actually makes no sense to me. I'm not even going to talk about myself or my friends, like okay maybe we're just a bunch of dysfunctional weirdos with terrible luck when it comes to relationships. But almost every person I've known/talked to -real life acquaintances, people in online forums/groups- has been in a toxic or at the very least highly unpleasant relationship. Drama is not rare. Fighting is not rare. Verbal and psychological abuse is not rare. Physical abuse isn't either, sadly. Alcoholism, drug addiction? Rampant. Lana might have made all of that up. But for many people, it's real life. It's what they wake up to every single day. And it's exhausting. It's depressing. There's nothing glamorous or sexy about it. I realize that anything can be a kink, and I am aware that there are people who fetishize and glamorize abusive/dead-end/failed relationships, for whatever reason. But I'm having trouble believing -or, I don't want to believe- that most people here or most LDR fans in general feel that way. Like, is this what we're doing here? Really? God. I'm sorry if I'm sounding like a bitch, but honestly, I'm mad and upset.

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