sukiedelrey

I love all of the songs so far, some more than others. But I'm just annoyed that she curses so much haha. It gets kind of excessive sometimes. Gods & Monsters was my fave based on the snippets, but when longer one was released and she was saying "I was an angel - looking to get fucked hard"....really wasn't what I was expecting.

Exactly.
 
 
You're right, but it really, really irks me. I just don't think like that. If it hurts me, it hurts me as a person, not as a woman. I am more than my looks, and I don't owe it to anyone to be attractive.
 
Still, continuing the cycle of this thinking is not doing women any favours. She's not setting back the progression of feminist thinking because it already seems to have stagnated here (public thought), nor is she helping by contributing to this oppressive thinking. I just don't like when people keep perpetuating these "ideals", especially those in public eye. Speak for yourself Lana, because you sure as hell are not representing me as a woman. (Notice how I use the word woman and not girl?)
 
EDIT: I'm trying this new thing where I'm not an asshole on the forum and I calm down before I make a post. So I don't know if this is worded too harshly or anything; but bear with me, I'm trying! :3
 
Anyway, it bothers me to see women fall in line with this horrible way of thinking, and it bothers me to women themselves perpetuating this bullshit. It bothers me when I see myself thinking this way and I have to stop and correct myself. As Sitar mentioned, society is much harsher on women and these ideas are deeply ingrained in us from an incredibly young age. Even the most headstrong, independent, intelligent women might grapple with these issues. Yes, society, the media, family conditions us to think this way. Yes, there are a multitude of layers and years of this incredibly complex issue: the sociological context, historical context, even evolutionary context -- but I am a firm believer in the individual. And call me naive or too optimistic, but I think real social change can be made. To me, it's never just "Oh, just one person said that; everyone thinks it anyway" -- it starts with the individual. We make up society.
 
I'm not going to give Lana a free pass on this one. :imbeingsarcasticbitch2: Maybe she's changed, I don't know. I know I have, and I know it's possible. I'm still learning, and I'm still changing. And I also know that my daughters and my sons (if I even have children) will be taught not to perpetuate this bullshit and will not be cast into gender roles and taught to have "gender-appropriate" qualities.
 
....and I went a little overboard. Again.
 
Ooops. (._. )

On the negative side: These are just my opinions, not trying to be a bitch/downer or whatever. Cola is...stupid. And God and Monsters seems like Radio 2.0, like let's see how many times I can say fuck to prove my gangsta Nancy Sinatra swag. They seem like they're just sexual for the shock value. Like, I know your wife and she wouldn't mind, I'm looking to get fucked hard...really. Those lyrics don't really come across to me as an intelligent woman exploring her gender and sexuality in deep beautiful ways like some people have been saying to me.
 
On the neutral side: Body Electric seems okay, if a little edited. I love the production, I just hope her vocals are better when the final version comes out. Yayo is Yayo, I think it's fine in any incarnation.
 
On the positive side: American is pretty cute. Ride, Burning Desire, and Blue Velvet are great, even if they've already been released. BEL AIR IS HEAVEN OMG IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL I WANT TO CRY. It's like a creepy Silent Night. This is the Lana I fell in love with.

On the negative side: These are just my opinions, not trying to be a bitch/downer or whatever. Cola is...stupid. And God and Monsters seems like Radio 2.0, like let's see how many times I can say fuck to prove my gangsta Nancy Sinatra swag. They seem like they're just sexual for the shock value. Like, I know your wife and she wouldn't mind, I'm looking to get fucked hard...really. Those lyrics don't really come across to me as an intelligent woman exploring her gender and sexuality in deep beautiful ways like some people have been saying to me.
 
On the neutral side: Body Electric seems okay, if a little edited. I love the production, I just hope her vocals are better when the final version comes out. Yayo is Yayo, I think it's fine in any incarnation.
 
On the positive side: American is pretty cute. Ride, Burning Desire, and Blue Velvet are great, even if they've already been released. BEL AIR IS HEAVEN OMG IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL I WANT TO CRY. It's like a creepy Silent Night. This is the Lana I fell in love with.

I totally agree Mafiosi. American though, I like it for the wrong reasons I guess. Bel Air slays all though. I'm pumped to get a good quality version of Bel Air in full, I'll be playing it 24/7. It's so dark and beautiful.

Sexual lyrics have always been in Lizzy and Lana lyrics but in the Paradise Edition it just seems sloppily done. Gods & Monsters was beautiful with the 1st snippet but once the longer 1:30 snippet came out it sounds like she just casually threw in the "fucked hard" part. Kinda ruined the "deeper, self-realization, tragic life" vibe I was expecting from it.
Also:
Completely agree with anyone saying that the pussy lyrics in Cola are done for shock value....ever since Lana released the snippet video those are the only lyrics many of people have really gravitated towards (I should add it's mostly the younger kids -13-15- age groups). All over twitter & tumblr those pepsi cola pussy lyrics are plastered over every Lana picture/gif *sigh*
Yayo & Body Electric sound overproduced on PE. I adore YAYO LDRAKALG version & Body Electric live so I guess I'll just stick with those~
 
All of my negativity aside, I am loving Bel Air & American. I'm shocked many have said they hated Bel Air...it sounds so cinematic & nostalgic <3 I get all those chills I got back when I first heard Born to Die
 
I don't think Paradise Edition will come even close to the brilliance that it BTD as a whole but I am grateful for any new music coming from Lana. I really think her writing style is evolving, maybe not exactly how I would have expected to, but it is changing imo.

Lana's songs in general aren't too in your face with the sex references I think, they're more just... nicely put there, not out of place or uncomfortable.

You weren't being forceful, I just don't necessarily agree with your perspective (a good thing, as it creates interesting conversation, right?). Thanks for weighing in though, your opinion is interesting ^_^

I'm not sure whether I like the "fucked hard" line in Gods & Monsters or not. It could be a release of the underlying sexual tension in the song, since she is an "angel in the garden of evil." It gives me a more roughed up Picnic at Hanging Rock or Repulsion vibe. Mysterious. I might like it a lot more depending on how the full version is.
 
My opinions on this album are a hot mess, sorry guys. I'm just confused on where I stand with these snippets. I'm convinced I like American in a campy sort of "I know the lyrics suck but they suck so badly they're just fun" way.
 
Also Cola, the chorus sounds fun, but i'm not sure about the rest of the song. But I don't think this will be remotely as good as BTD. After all, it's the "afterthought" so I don't really predict it to live up to BTD.
 
I guess I'll have to suffer these next 20 days with indecisive opinions and Lanapolar disorder until I can finally make a decision on whether this is my cup of chocolate milk or not.

Omg it's out in 3 weeks here!

Sorry if I came across as kind of forceful. I'm asexual, so meh. But I fully respect her sexual choices. If she wants to get fucked hard and rough in the pouring rain by an old man who's cheating on his wife, good for her. It's just the powerlessness she reflects regarding that kind of choice that bothers me. Like, it's how she repeatedly self-infantializes herself and seems so apathetic or helpless toward her part in a relationship; even if she likes a submissive role, I feel like she should still be in charge of her sexuality and who she is as a whole person. It doesn't seem healthy and I kind of worry about her. But I will stand by my pussy tastes like pepsi cola being for shock value.

On the negative side: These are just my opinions, not trying to be a bitch/downer or whatever. Cola is...stupid. And God and Monsters seems like Radio 2.0, like let's see how many times I can say fuck to prove my gangsta Nancy Sinatra swag. They seem like they're just sexual for the shock value. Like, I know your wife and she wouldn't mind, I'm looking to get fucked hard...really. Those lyrics don't really come across to me as an intelligent woman exploring her gender and sexuality in deep beautiful ways like some people have been saying to me.
 
On the neutral side: Body Electric seems okay, if a little edited. I love the production, I just hope her vocals are better when the final version comes out. Yayo is Yayo, I think it's fine in any incarnation.
 
On the positive side: American is pretty cute. Ride, Burning Desire, and Blue Velvet are great, even if they've already been released. BEL AIR IS HEAVEN OMG IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL I WANT TO CRY. It's like a creepy Silent Night. This is the Lana I fell in love with.

I'm very excited for this release but I feel that the songs on BTD will always be better. She says it's an 'afterthought' but I feel like as if these songs are bitter aftertastes from BTD. Lana has suddenly become very vulgar and her lyrics have suddenly gotten worse.
 
I got a burning desire for you baby, (I got a burning desire). I got a burning desire for you baby, (I got a burning desire).
I sing the body electric. I sing the body electric. I sing the body electric. I sing the body electric sing the body electric sing the body electric.
 
Too much repetition and while I do enjoy some of Lana's vulgarity, I the EP is mostly to do with sex and fucking and it just makes me a little angry because I know Lana is a deep person with strong ideas. I guess I'll listen to it when it's released and make further judgements then

LANA'S EYEBROWS ARE PERFECT
(i have a weird thing for eyebrows loll)