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No—we know when we quote another here, it's automatic. Nothing changes unless the member goes in and changes it. Which is deception and can lead to all kinds of disagreements, misunderstandings, and anger here.

Jeremy is expressing himself the way he wants to. Just as you are here. Does he look like a very "classy" individual? Would I expect him to be erudite, based on the little I—and we—know about him? NO. He very likely believes in what he supports just as others vehemently believe in Kamala Harris and support her loudly.

No, due to the man she married, who symbolizes and represents 'the enemy' to many here. Had she married handsome, worldly, dapper Francesco Carrozzini, I don't think we'd be having this conversation, we'd be saying, "Will Lana move to Italy?"

Exactly. There are 70 to 150 million in the United States. They are everywhere, in all states, in all communities.

'Abuse' covers a wide swath of things that might end a marriage—that's why I used that word--'abuse' doesn't necessarily mean physical abuse. And we know Lana knows all about emotional and psychological abuse—she's sang about it too for a decade (Ultraviolence, Velvet Crowbar, Blackest Day, Honeymoon, Violets For Roses, Cult Leader, 13 Beaches, etc.) I'm saying it's doubtful she would succumb. We know she dates a lot of men, discarding them with apparent ease, copes with whatever heartbreak she feels, and moves on. So whatever her spouse does that she doesn't like is unlikely to be tolerated by her for very long, child or children or no child or children.

Why? She's is a super-professional, very intelligent, strong woman and individual. She's massively accomplished. And she's got all the worldly power and probably had him sign a pre-nup. She's got millions of dollars and homes all over the place—you think she can't leave him, go to her lawyer, start divorce proceedings, and move forward with her life, leaving him or any other man in her dust? We know she's dealt with massive heartbreak and romantic disappointment in the past—it's one of her major themes. And as far as first actions taken, she can call her father, brother, and sister and they will drop everything and swoop in to do whatever needs to be done if she needs help or moral support and love. I wrote closet monster—you changed my words, which should be an offense here.

And quite a strong-willed and intelligent one, surrounded by a close and loving family.

It's fine to vent—within reason—but what world are members living in when half the citizens of the United States support Trump? That is a FACT. So of course Lana, just like the rest of us here in the United States, are going to encounter them and find them among our family, friends, coworkers, neighbors, and wider community. And here, on this board. We know so little about Lana herself when it comes down to it—and many times less about her relationship with this man. Maybe we'd prefer—superficially and stupidly—she marry someone like the dashing Francesco Carrozzini or Barrie-James, but she didn't. She married this gentleman and we can ultimately only wish her well. From her songs, we know she is drawn to older men and knows about all kinds of abuse, so if he's abusive, she'll deal with it. She's got to be the one with all the power in the relationship. And her father, sister, and brother would object to her marrying this man if they thought he was absolutely some kind of a monster or closet monster.

Beautifully stated.

But it's not as if Lana is dependent on her new spouse financially supporting their child or children if any…she's got tens of millions. Of course, I'm sure she would like him to be present, available, and enthusiastic about fatherhood, but that's a different consideration from financial support. I do think having a child or children for the best reasons is important, which I feel many Americans fail at.

She's been musing about leaving Southern California for awhile, though I can't see her heading for the American Southeast. You've really got to love swamps to live in that part of the country, and humid swampland and hurricanes, I think, only appeal to a small minority. Maybe a Lana Zydeco album is next?

Especially as they're not the ones bearing the child and thus at no physical risk themselves after a certain age.

Maybe—hopefully--that's something they've already discussed and he replied in the affirmative, and she believes he means it.

Nothing wrong with that. Who people date, have sex with, live with, or marry, or why, is no one else's business but their own. America has gotten so unsophisticated in this regard, it's as if we're back in the 50s again. I hear it on tv all the time—he's 26 but she's 31, it's an outrage!

If she has a child next year, she'll already be approaching 60 when that child graduates high school. Things like this play on people's minds as they mature. She's said she wants children or a child, why wouldn't she make finding a husband and/or father a priority now? We don't know that she's rushed into it per se, and divorce is always possible. Maybe she made him sign a pre-nup, who knows?

We have to trust that she knows what she's doing. It's her private life, and, ultimately, none of our business. I remember when I was young and Kurt Cobain committed suicide, and then it seemed every downtowner here in NYC had an opinion on whether or not Courtney Love was abusing or mistreating Frances Bean Cobain. Everyone was an expert, everyone knew the true story, even though very few knew anything solid or factual. No one knew Love or had known Cobain. It was just overwrought conjecture and speculation.

She's publicly said more than once that she wants to have a child, and she's approaching middle age. Fertility declines after the age of 35 and pregnancy risks escalate. It makes perfect sense.

I think this as well, generally speaking, and I think it also has to do with her wanting a child of her own, one or more.

If you've never seen The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie from 1969--it's my all-time favorite film--see it. You won't regret it. Smith won the Academy Award for Best Actress for her performance as the title character.

It seems to me he's being perceived as a conservative and a redneck--he wears camo and is an alligator tour guide--thus the hate. And he may be both, though redneck perhaps isn't a term he would use to describe himself. She's been telling us for years that she wants someone to walk to the mall with, do the laundry with, and watch television with, so I'm not surprised. Maybe "tour the bayou with" would have been the next line. She did mention the bayou on Fishtail. And in terms of boyfriends, many are perceiving him as a step down from cop Sean Larkin, who they thought bad enough.

Having a birth child of her own probably factored into this decision. ...and probably explains some of the Lasso delay.

And that wasn't the first time.

But we've already had a release date--we're sitting right on top of one. And another release date doesn't necessarily mean an accurate one or one that won't change again.

Let's hope it's not a Lana Del Rey Christmas album, that secret project. So very few are worth listening to.

That may be true, but if so, I think it's foolish--and worse, tired.