Vertimus

Why should it bother you? Why do you take it to heart? LET PEOPLE hate a song or album if they want to and express why in whatever terms they feel appropriate. You trying to shut people up is, to me, much worse than anyone saying 'A&W' is a piece of garbage, that BB is the worst album by a major artist in 50 years, or that 'Fingertips' is flat and dead on arrival, etc. 'Consensus,' or enforced consensus, is not one of the rules here, last time I checked. People have their own thoughts, lives, experiences, opinions, and they're not the same as anyone else's.

Exactly. Opinions other than your own aren't poisoning the well, like some pretend here. Take control and responsibility for your own emotions. Let other members speak. If you're consistently irritated by someone else's thoughts, block them. Or as TLW said, be an adult and scroll on. No one owns this site except Elle, so pretending that 'the majority' has some sort of control or power over others, or the minority, or the less emotional, is incorrect. It doesn't take much for the majority to be come the mob.

Lana has rarely used 'singles' in the traditional way after 'Ride.' As we remember, for UV, she released 3 singles in 24 hours. The 'Love' and 'LFL' singles were obviously an attempt at commercial success, but neither caught any fire (and turned off a lot of Stans). She just sort of throws them out there, and they really serve no purpose except to be treats and teasers for the Stans, like 'MAC' and 'VB.' I don't think she's ever had any real belief that any of the them would break into the mainstream, which was the original purpose of singles. Calling them 'early release tracks' would probably be more accurate. When she did meet with some unexpected single-track success, like with 'Do'in Time,' it was unplanned.

Do we know what the announcement is yet? Is it confirmed to be music-related in a direct way? Could it be a second album of all-new material? That would be a kick-ass move and really set the world ablaze.

This I accept but will never understand.

Yup.

Who’s photo is that, LRPD?

Lana has brought up God and religion on her albums again and again, and made allusions to Bible passages, and now on OB, we have more talk of God in the lyrics and a pastor's Interlude. So obviously, religion is a valid topic here as long as it remains in context. As with any other topic, it should be approached with some degree of delicacy and consideration for others and what their own opinions may be.

They've been aware of one another for some time, obviously. I remember him calling her "interesting" way back about the time of Paradise.

Don't let bad apples dissuade or intimidate you.

No tosies. ‘Toes, and….’

Her albums usually leak the week of release, so we have a week or so to go. I know, everyone's crazy for it.

It's not Americans per se, it's 'Fake Woke People,' as someone here once named them, and yes, most are White [American] liberals. They're Marxists, whether they realize it or not, who are always looking for the next 'victim group' to exploit and profit from. The very idea of 'cultural appropriation' is stupid in a global world where everyone shares and participates assertively. If they were correct, then only Italians wold be able to eat pizza, only Asians, dumplings or pork-friend rice, and only American Southerners could eat deep-fried Snicker bars. And so on. Imagine a world were every time someone stepped outdoors in trousers, someone else attacked them, claiming that someone of another culture created or invented them.

I would like the album art so much better if it were done in high contrast, with solid and clean blacks and whites, without all the grey tones.

Once it goes out, it's out. It will travel the world in seconds. It's the old genii in the bottle thing.

Could it be news about the 'new' film version of 'Alice in Wonderland' she mentioned writing music for years ago? Or the Broadway musical?

In my experience, it's usually a week before, or in the week of the release.

That's all very well expressed. It's a wonderful record, but I guess what the public might take from the word 'revenge' and what she perceives it as can be wildly different.

Is that true? Then there was no version that was monkied around with by Lana and her team for 'Honeymoon' and which almost made the cut?

Hey, I love BB too, except for the title track and 'The Trio,' which seemed out of place. It's one of my favorites of all her albums. I took the BLM line seriously, and understand it in what I think the intended context was.

I like it well enough, especially the early version with the accordion (I think), but we've heard so many versions--I think I have 11--and they really don't get better--that at this point, some version Lana likes best would make a good 'bonus' track on a career retrospective. And when that retrospective comes, I expect at least half a dozen amazing songs about which we've known nothing. An even dozen or baker's dozen would be even better.

Things are unclear as ever. If 'The Grants' is going to be released as a the next single, they'd better hurry, unless they intend to release it as a single on the 24th, simultaneous with the album (which really makes no sense in the 21st century). The RS interview was also mystifying--in what sense was BB a revenge album? We've heard a lot about that and yet it all seems to come to very little. Just due to the end of 'Arcadia' and 'BBS', and 'WFWF' in its commentary about her mother? I like all three songs, but the first two are tepid as 'revenge.'