Vertimus

Our collective state of constipation is ending!

She recently said her favorite song was 'Coconut,' an early 70s novelty song by Harry Nilsson of 'Without You' fame. Me too. It's a gimmicky novelty song, not as obnoxious as 'The Monster Mash,' but close.

After 'Wild At Heart,' 'Arcadia,' 'Violets For Roses,' and 'Black Bathing Suit,' all which, to me, harkened back to BTD, I think we can never quite guess what's coming next, though I think one or more albums of bangers is unlikely.

I'd rather have a lot of tracks, as on LFL. That way we're bound to get more good tracks on average, since, generally speaking, she does produce more good than weak tracks per album. I'm happy to always 'uncheck' or delete or move off tracks I really dislike. I do hope we get 'Crazy For You,' though I think it's unlikely if it is/was a HM outtake.

It's just a difference of opinion. Don't take it personally. We all hate or love or like or dislike some albums more than others.

It’s more like 250 posts all of a sudden….

It’s beautiful, like WM, 13B, Heroin, Cherry, BPBP, SB, WTWWATWKOD, GBA, and so on. It really showed how varied her songwriting can be, and it seemed to move outward instead of inward like UV and HM.

It’s one of my top 2 LDR albums. I never tire of it, though it has a few duds.

I agree. Look at the hate we used to have here. It was unbelievable, and continuous, but sadly typical of internet communication, as we know. And none of it was legitimate or justifiable. I think we've really matured since that time, which was about the era of LFL > NFR!. I work in NYC in a kind of 'PC community' where if you say anything true and readily observable about human nature, it's seen as negative, or your being negative, and my coworkers can only see human nature as blandly pleasant and mindlessly docile, as if reality where a Doris Day movie. Hate is wrong, something you should always reflect on, or by far best keep to yourself, but it is part of life and being human; and seeing life through rose-tinted glasses is wrong too, just foolhardy.

The Rockefeller song, I think, is very likely the FJM collab, as it sounds like it might have rolled right off his last album.

Full agree about everything, especially the mess that TNBAR became, though I liked the earlier 'Thunder' better.

The new N word!

I hope if this project, or part of this project, is the 'Standards & Classics' album, she steers clear of overplayed, famous-the-world-over songs like 'Country Roads' and other obvious, more contemporary popular songs. I'd much prefer cover much older and more sophisticated songs ---- she could bring a whole new audience to songs like 'Laura,' 'All the Things You Are,' ''Round Midnight,' 'Ebb Tide,' 'Sky Lark,' 'Smoke Rings' and 'So In Love,' as well as a full studio version of 'The Good Life.' As much as I love 'Country Roads,' the thought of 'Country Roads' and Lana Del Rey together gives me a queasy stomach.

How about Chaotic Fucking Lipster? No offense intended. You know you’re one of my favorites, with your dry and laconic sense of humor.

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We know she likes long titles in some cases, as clumsy as they can be, as, for me, 'Hope' was. I didn't mind, though, WTWWAWWKOD. If she's reciting into a mic while she daydreams and 'automatic writes,' I could easily see the resulting titles being something like GPSOTSOMFWHDSF. There's a pseudo-precedent for this in Fiona Apple's 'When The Pawn..." album title, which, in whole, was 90 words long.

I also wish for a little more 'traditional professionalism' from her in terms of her rollouts, not the lazy album art like we saw on COCC, especially when good album art is one of the easiest things to achieve if you have a great deal of money at your disposal and an entire world of talented conceptualizers, artists, and photographers to bring it to fruition. Taken as a whole, to me, her LDR album covers are largely disappointing. The Hissing of Summer Lawns is my all-time favorite album, so I agree, but I just can't see Lana, musically, producing that kind of a sound on her own. Lyrically, yes, I think she's more than capable of taking a hard, objective look at life in Los Angeles and distilling it into critical word-pictures.

It would be, IMO, a huge mistake for Lana to cover a song as classic and over-exposed as ACITW, which she has already referenced lyrically too many times in the last several years. I love early EJ, but I can’t see LDR bringing anything new to ACITW or even coming close to matching the original in quality.

Me too.

Anything! Throw us a nut or kernel.

Gemini Lana Fan is a close second, and I love the indescribable tone of Chaotic Lipster’s posts. But Venice Peach is a human legend!

You do a fantastic job, and your good brain, dedication, and service are truly appreciated, I think, by all or most of us!

You are the most royal and loyal member of this board IMO, and you have made this thread so much easier for me to understand now that I am back in the office with much less time to post and read. Thank you.

All of this sort of makes me wish album releases were still done the way they were 30 or 40 years ago, when a one-line piece of news in a music magazine would announce an artist or band was in the studio, and then there'd occasionally be release date floated sometime before the album dropped, and then a few ads of the cover art, and that was it.

Me neither. And I don't even find it especially cohesive. 'California,' 'Love Song,' 'How To Disappear,' the title track, even 'Bartender' and 'FIILY'--these represent Lana taking it very easy in terms of her own songwriting. And Jack is probably responsible for 95% of 'Venice Beach,' though of course Lana 'green-lighted' it. 'Do'in Time' was dragged in at the last minute from another project, and the redo of 'NBAR' is a nightmare. I also agree that nothing that Lana has released so far sounds anything like any of Joni Mitchell's jazz work, from 'Court & Spark' through 'Mingus,' or even its later rare appearances on songs like 'Moon At The Window' or Mitchell's own 'standards' cover album. Jazz is a huge genre with endless sub-genres and sub-sub-genres; you could study it and its history for a lifetime and still not become conversant in it.