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It could also be a reference to seminal fluid, as in the 2003 Blondie song, ‘Good Boys,’ which has lyrics that go, “You got me on your face/a big disgrace.”

The late surf filmmaker Bruce Brown.

I know she used the paper on BPBP, because we’ve seen video footage of it, but do we know how many other LFL tracks she used it on?

There is a fair amount of good production on LFL but also a fair amount of bad, too much. Especially on GBA and WTWWAWWJKD. It’s mostly the over-complication of the background sounds as well as the sound quality itself. I also don’t like smaller points, like in BPBP where she and SN are supposed to be harmonizing and yet SN holds the note longer, and no retake was done, so it sounds amateurish. On ‘Change,’ how LDR pronounces ‘beings’ as ‘be-ins’ jumps out at me, and Rick didn’t apparently point that out to her. And on ‘Coachella,’ why the awkward stress in the word ‘parents’?

A lot of people here have been saying that for awhile. I think it’s a new stripped-back approach (and also ‘good taste’) in response to the messy, overcrowded, generally terrible production on LFL as a whole. Jack probably said to LDR, “We can do so much better than that.”

. The real damage it does is take control of the process and the power out of the key players’ hands, and that has to be very very frustrating for all involved. When someone is many times over a millionaire like LDR, and Jack likely is, losing a few hundred thousand dollars is not going to hurt their purse or bottom line. But they don’t have control over their own work, and that’s upsetting and anger-inducing.

If NFR leaks, I don’t think it will be terribly crushing to LDR, Jack or Interscope. They’re all more than aware of how common this is today, so there’s some expectation for it to happen, and hope that it doesn’t. In America, maybe 20 to 30 thousand people would download the leaked files, but a lot of Americans are not that savvy about how to do it, don’t want to get their PCs infected with viruses, or are simply honest and want to support the artist. Then the equivalent of those people in America who would download the leaks in other countries will do the same around the world. NFR will still sell many millions of copies and the rich will get richer, as they deserve to do for producing the work.

‘Season of the Witch’: a good B-side to NFR. The original Donovan version builds to a crescendo, it’s a shame LDR and Jack decided to soften the dramatic ending. Like DT, it’s anti-climatic. ‘Looking for America’: slight, but also a worthy B-side to NFR and this era. I like the studio version a lot better than the live-in-the-studio version. It especially reminds me of the kind of B-sides Tori Amos has added as bonus tracks to her albums for the last decade, like ‘Dixie’ and ‘Oscar’s Theme.’

Thank you!

Is it the same basic version we heard on her Twitter or something fuller?

What about the “catch it like lightning/I sing it into my music” line in HIAB that sounds so clumsy on one of the original snippets? Will it sound better on the record or could she have altered the lyric? What about the “tourlyfe line?

Agreed. TNBAR, at this remove, sounds misplaced on NFR. Why didn’t they at least re-record it? The new lyrics and the fame-fame-fame reverb make it sound tired and amateurish. I am pretty sure I will be keeping the file but taking it off NFR.

To me it sounds like two different songs badly welded together, but of course I can't judge until I have heard the entire thing.

LDR herself may still release a sampler of all the songs like she did for LFL, in which case we may get to hear other parts of the songs.

Yes. I assume most of us have.

The worst part is that it seems to totally change the nature of TNBAR—from a heavy indictment of BJON on the original to something resembling another love song.

‘California’ and ‘The Greatest’ sound the most promising to me, and very promising at that. ‘TNBAR’ sounds as if it still has the Nowels production and partial new lyrics, which sound awful.

You clearly didn’t read the entire discussion,because it was not me who made the criticism about her hair, which was very mild. I never said her appearance needs to be “approved” or “improved.” You’ve got posters and their messages mixed up, but you still feel righteous enough to condemn. There IS a correlation between her physical being and her music when members here routinely say, “you cannot comment AT ALL on her appearance at any time!” and “if you don’t like all her songs on ________, you’re a ____________.” In other woods, NOTHING about LDR can be fairly criticized or even slightly negatively commented upon, not her clothing, her collaborators, her choices, her album covers, her boyfriends, her venue choices, her lyrics, her hair, etc., because LDR is a cult figure to many of you, rather than a fallible human being, like all the rest of us, that she is to me. I have certainly never attacked her here or anywhere else—though I have criticized her. This is a lot of nuttiness over someone—not me—simply saying something like, “Gee, why didn’t she comb her hair?”

You clearly didn’t read the entire discussion,because it was not me who made the criticism about her hair, which was very mild. I never said her appearance needs to be “approved” or “improved.” You’ve got posters and their messages mixed up, but you still feel righteous enough to condemn. There IS a correlation between her physical being and her music when members here routinely say, “you cannot comment AT ALL on her appearance at any time!” and “if you don’t like all her songs on ________, you’re a ____________.” In other woods, NOTHING about LDR can be fairly criticized or even slightly negatively commented upon, not her clothing, her collaborators, her choices, her album covers, her boyfriends, her venue choices, her lyrics, her hair, etc., because LDR is a cult figure to many of you, rather than a fallible human being, like all the rest of us, that she is to me.

Common sense!

Okay, accepting your premise that that is a ‘normal’ person’s actual opinion, then LDR has to live with it. She certainly knows she has done an about-face on her approach to her appearance for reasons of her own over the last four years, and I am sure she knows enough by now to avoid reading comments from people she doesn’t know, knows nothing about, and some of whom are likely to say unpleasant things or hard truths. She’s an adult and I don’t think we can assume how she’s going to react or feel.

Right. And that’s par for the course for major and minor celebrities every day. They should expect some bad with the good, and, by 2109, a lot of troll comments—a great deal. Before long someone will come up an app that exposes trolls to the world. Shows like 20/20 have already had segments on trolls who were outed. It’s the wave of the future.