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not saying the album is above criticism but idk I feel like it should be discussed with more care and compassion. the energy from some online music circles has been so depressing. 

pitchfork gave it a 6.8 and said it was "unusually safe" yet all i've seen is people shitting on it for the ambient tracks how is that safe?? 

The discourse surrounding this album has been so upsetting… like, everyone is entitled to dislike the music, but I don’t see why people feel the need to attack the people overseeing this album’s release. I can’t even imagine how Sophie’s brother must have felt while finishing the album she left behind… genuinely the last thing people should be doing is questioning his intentions

This album feels like a natural progression from the OOEPUI remix album and the heav3n suspended set. I really like how it has a soft sound compared to OOEPUI which was very hard and punchy. The new production on Reason Why and My Forever is so satisfying to me.

This made me feel so happy, because this is exactly how I felt everytime I would hear a new SOPHIE song 

The way hearing the juul crackle and her voice sent chills down my spine and gave me full body goosebumps 
 
The behind the scenes footage of her at that London Heaven show with the iconic ponytail…. 

After a few listens I do wish there was some alterations to the tracklist. Like maybe I’d move Rawwwwww after The Dome’s Protection and then include like Spliff In My Ear and Fly Bitch. Just so the sonic sections are a bit more fleshed out because I think they work really well in the later half of the record. But those are minor adjustments I can make on my own! Really happy we got so many “new” tracks instead of just all the already leaked stuff people were hoping for. Makes this release more special and exciting. I do hope there are more releases coming from other artists because I don’t want it to be over. 

No, exactly. And also all of it is coming from people who are either pissed that NYBD, TMTD, Burn Rubber and etc. didn't make it or from those who are pissed at the fact that this isn't OOEPUI 2.0. It's honestly very f*cking ignorant and unfair. I also feel like some people expected the album to be a nonstop cunt-fest (for some reason?), when in reality it's very much in line with this quote from that The Face interview from 2020: “Whatever is put out into the world now needs to somehow be reactive to [the pandemic] and learn from this situation,” she says, birds chirping in the background. “I feel some kind of shift of consciousness is occurring, whether that’s me coming into this more reflective place or whatever else it is, and I’m curious to know how that might manifest itself musically.”  
 
That said, I don't even remember the last time that I wasn't annoyed at a RYM score so...

the album is getting cooked on the reviews on rate your music by disgusting and vile faggots (technical term not slur) who clearly listened to leak and didnt even wait for the actual release to start spewing hate. what's the point? like you are so mad that this album exists that you felt the need to write your incoherent badly fleshed out half assed thoughts soooo quickly?? weird 

"songcrafting-wise", I kinda prefer the original My Forever demo/vocal take, but I can understand the whole feeling of this final version. It's highkey emotional to be honest, you can feel a lot of longing as if the feeling is about SOPHIE.

I don’t think I can cope with this thread going dormant  it feels so weird and final having this album (almost) out. 
 
I hope that there are more official releases and unheard leaks that trickle out from now on, because it’s hard to think about music going forward without her, and without the speculation and anticipation around her live sets and collabs and everything.
 
She just had something nobody else really did. I discovered her alongside pc music back in 2014 and even most of that crew just doesn’t excite me the same way anymore. This is making me emotional all over again almost worse than when she actually passed  

I think the demos she played live were just the first takes of the songs with some live improv as well and that it was never in her mind to keep them that long, but to recontextualize them in the format of an album. Just like a film director who shoots many scenes and then cuts some of them for whatever stylistic/plot purpose reason. Benny himself talked about how she wanted “some parts of the songs to be kept and some others to be removed” or smth like that.
 

Why are people so obsessed with knowing MORE than the people who were closest to her and collaborated with her?? We got 2 very in depth articles and you STILL have shit to say.
 
Also, SOPHIE was an experimental musician who THRIVED on messing with people, if you’re disturbed by “random beat switch ups” then that’s entirely on you.
 
You’re the problem here. Why force yourself into liking music you don’t actually have the capacity to understand, just to shit on it

but why speculate when we are told? i really doubt her family would purposefully "ruin" the album for some reason. i feel like this is exactly the reaction people wouldve had if sophie released the album. sophie never gave people what they wanted, and im pretty sure oil had a similar reception lol

The family has stated time and time again that this is absolutely not the case, and this is an album that had all of the tracks only touches away from being complete & a finalized tracklist before she died. 
 
I don't love the tracklist either, and I also think that some of the artistic choices sound odd (haven't listened yet but going off the singles and what people in here have said), but what we have to remember is that if this album is underwhelming, it's underwhelming because of the decisions SOPHIE made. 
 
Honestly seems like some people are using her grieving family as a scapegoat because you don't like the album but don't want to criticise the deceased. 
Is it "objectively trash" or can you just not understand more abstract music? Some of you people would crumble if you had to listen to a noise album. 

I’ve been revisiting a lot of her old interviews and even up into 2019 Sophie often said that “the only kind of music is pop music” and other things along those lines. Seems like to her it just meant music trying to reach a wide audience. So I really do think, to her, this is a pop album. Many of the tracks would be considered pop by anyone’s standards, but as for the rest of them I think the fact that they have identifiable structures, tangible sounds, and vocals/hooks (for the most part), etc made them pop in Sophie’s eyes. I think an album Sophie would consider “experimental” would be so batshit off the walls that it might not even register as music to most people, so anything less than that is her exploring the possible forms and extremes of “pop” (which is hardly possible to define anyway). 
 
Also, plunging asymptote is a delicious rollercoaster of sensory confusion. There’s nothing else like it.

I am still gagged by the tracklist like… Nina Kraviz?!? Hannah Diamond?!?! The techno songs back to back?? This looks so epic I’m even more hyped now
Honestly WHO CARES about some songs we expected not making the cut, we are getting so much unheard stuff it’s unreal