DinahLee

On 6/22/2024 at 10:17 AM, AllForYou said:

it was a bit weird tbh. in the love+fear era she said she wanted to collab but 'no one wanted to work with me' then in regards to the female collab album she said that people were excited and commenting but it was difficult to organise (this was pre-pandemic and jack breakup).

because she put a lot of emphasis of using a female producer and jen only did 4/13 tracks, some people questioned it and she was like 'um I meant man's world was the a female led project' which feels like a lie because it felt very heavily implied that she was going to do a female lead album, not just one song. i wonder if something happened behind the scenes because she wrote quite a nice dedication to james in the credits but jen's felt a bit stale.

 

few days late but:

I truly believe plans are constantly changing and she did want to make a "female lead" project that didn't pan out and she coopted to the "Man's World" excuse, but I just don't blame her. It is an endless work of scheduling and business behind the scenes; if we get to see 10% of it, it's already too much. I think Marina always struggled with the "label politics" in different degrees; from the "I bankrupted label lol" joke from Electra Heart days to "I had to pay for all the visuals + mixing" on Froot and then the retroactive "lol remember label resistance about it?" when Bubblegum Bitch went viral, so I can imagine she just didn't bother. Personally, the fact she managed to squeeze and bring 4 songs with a Female Producer already shows more sincerity and goodwill than... most of the discourse that people bring.

 

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As much as I dislike L+F, recently I've been trying to revisit it. It's just clear that she was aimless, but there were some great songs through all these sessions; many of them left on the cutting room for some awkward reason: "The Art Of Letting Go", "There's Nothing Wrong With You", "If It's Worth It", "Water Under The Bridge" and "Please Don't Call Me" are all better than True, Superstar and others. They're all part of BasicBop Category but at least they're somehow personal and doesn't sound AI generated before AI was a thing??

 

Coming from FROOT was always going to be difficult and she clearly was trying to just evoke "God just ONE MORE hit" with L+F, so it would have been better if she went full Popstar mode instead of the half-hearted concept about emotions. A "Crash Moment", if you will. 

I don't think too much about this being a "posthumous" release because it's being worked by people really close to SOPHIE and clearly aware of SOPHIE's wishes. Like... I don't think the label + brother would just slow down Reason Why for no goddamn reason nn, unless Kim Petras &/or BC Kingdom requested so they could re-record. We also know many of these songs were played in higher tempo (same case as Sunscreen) so it just makes sense that SOPHIE had the final product a little different from what we heard before.

I see the Hype has calmed down but that motherfucking ugly  picture which is literally blurry??? coming from a Live performance, the new Logo (which looks Baseball inspired) at the corner, "exclusive news"... it's giving Tour announcement + Pre-Sale sign up. If it wasn't for that random "We're not touring stadiums and just taking the money" comment, I'd be 100% sure of a small 4/5 stadium shows + festivals happening, especially with some other random ramblings that are happening...

I was trying to find where tf these came from after they flooding my twitter timeline omg. It's so Ethel coded as mentioned along the thread... absolutely love it. There's something very charming about how Lana is able to convey strong presence through these """low budget""" shoots (I mean, this is not just walking around the street with her sister, pointing and shooting, but you get it). A model at heart to be honest.

 

59 minutes ago, ultrabanisters said:

unpopular opinion but she needs to scrap the following (atleast for a few years)

 

- born to die

- summertime sadness

- cherry 

- bartender

 

and then shorten quite a few of the longer tracks and sing some deeper cuts

 

I agree with all of them + Pretty When You Cry to be honest. Of course they're all amazing but like... she's been doing these nonstop for years now. I think Summertime Sadness maybe holds some extra weight since it was ""a hit"" and she seems to be very very very found of it, so it could stay but the others...time to change these.

 

The Born To Die (album) trim needs to happen. I mentioned this in another thread the other day but after Norman Fucking Rockwell she got a second weave of fans and admirers, there's no need to be doing Born To Die, Summertime Sadness, Video Games and then +1 extra album track. I'm glad she cut Blue Jeans already, but the title track (or Summertime Sadness then) should get the chop.

 

 

What is she doing recently?

As much as I don't really "care" for the book thing, I found it quite... amusing? in a shocking way? the one she shared on her Instagram some time ago. I don't remember her ever being so open about her life, even with music. If she's really digging that deep, maybe Music will be very interesting as well.

7 hours ago, sempervirens said:

Bring back Cola idgaf the high notes were a serve

 

 

It's been SO LONG... if only. Would shake earth to its core

7 minutes ago, Let the Light In said:

A&W

Young and Beautiful

Bartender

 

Bartender

 

Bartender

 

Bartender

 

Bartender

 

Bartender

 

 

 

taste

I think I've been here for over 10 years and created like 3 threads my whole life so I'm indulging. At first I was going to do this as a Status Update but this is my Lans Tots so:

 

I'm bored and celebrating Ultra10th and decided to think of a tour that could SHOOK us a little. Trying to reutilize just the best moments of the recent shows/Coachella Tour with same stage setup and a B-stage.

 

Lana Del Rey Stadium Tour 2024

1. Doin' Time

2. West Coast

3. Tulsa Jesus Freak (Fishtail Outro)

4. Summertime Sadness

5. Brooklyn Baby

 

-- Ride Intro/Montage -- 

6. Ride

7. Cinnamon Girl (on swing)

8. A&W (full)

9. Peppers (featuring choreo)

 

--Burnt Norton-

10. Chemtrails Over The Country Club

11. The Grants

12. Get Free (Band extended) - Lana walks towards B-Stage located in the back of the standing zone/general admission with barricaded corridor.

 

-> B STAGE

13. Terrence Loves You

14. Thunder 

15. Mariner's Apartment Complex

16. Margaret/Paris, Texas (medley) 

17. Taco Truck x Venice Bitch (going full Album Version/Guitar solos) - Lana walks out to greet fans and back to Main Stage.

 

-> MAIN STAGE

18. Radio

19. Video Games

20. Old Money (Bridge + Chorus acapella only), featuring the SNL Hologram.

 

I wanted to try to pick up some strong fan favorites while also giving the spotlight to Ultraviolence (10th) + Tunnel; which means that we have classic after classic. There's no arch or theming about the songs tbh, but the show starts a bit more rock-ish and choreo, with a bit of cynicism and goes into band-jam/free/jazzier mood.

 

Other songs I considered while creating but opted to cut; Gods & Monsters (closing the third section), Music To Watch Boys To, Young & Beautiful (replaced by Taco Truck x Venice Bitch).

 

 Share your thoughts and whatnot!

 

 

 

 

"releasing more lizzy grant songs" and what lizzy grant song has been released?? Yayo 12 years ago??  Girl you just posted Pawn Shop Blues on your Insta Reels half a decade a go as well, that's not releasing!!!

oooomg graphic design Ellegend!! They're soooooo pretty.

 

The way I never knew we had other themes?? I feel guilty changing from Lust For Life sksksksksk.

2 hours ago, The Siren said:

And yet we've degraded to 

Push your penis into your mouth

I'll make you choke on your doubt

[... I forget this part] watch you die

Just a fairy with a knife

 

 

Rocking Horse is such a pretty/smart song. I get it might be a little heavy-handed subject but I find it pretty fascinating how she conveyed so much image and meaning through the metaphor. And the song is catchy as hell.

For some reason, after lurking in this thread for days, I was still able to read it as "100th anniversary" and I was like wtf???

 

The vinyl drop from last year makes me think there's nothing major happening, unless they just press... more vinyl? Maybe lucky enough and they make it the Deluxe version (I doubt it since it seems like they did new press/mix for the 2023 standard release). Honestly if they didn't do anything for Born To Die which would be a much easier sell (no shit the album is still charting on Billboard) with the endless-pretty-much-finished outtakes they had... unearthing Fine China & Your Girl sound like a struggle. 

 

We do know both of them were finished back in 2014 along with the rest of the album, but it's quite interesting she (or the label?) decided to go with Flipside & Is This Happiness as regional bonus tracks. At least we had the Flipside 2023 performances but Is This Happiness, as gorgeous as it is, is just very random.

Yeah she's def touring because she's getting the $$$. Thinking about how messy it has been (and I don't even mean it in a derogatory way), if she's also really doing everything all by herself like some people been saying... she's cashing the whole thing. She pays the band and then everything else is hers if she doesn't have a touring manager, a record label or anyone else.

6 minutes ago, PARADIXO said:

Ultraviolence release, Endless Summer Tour and Honeymoon rollout... you had to be there

 

Honestly... it was quite annoying but we had it good so I can't complain sksksksks.

The endless teasing, the Honeymoon lyrics over that Lyric Book sold at Endless Summer yet no release date, the tour missing most of ultraviolence, Honeymoon leaking through store speakers... a nightmare, but a good one.

 

 

17 minutes ago, WaitForLife said:

I Wonder how many Songs a songwriter can wrote, Mix and record in less than 9 months?

She probably Had to be done with HM in June to Release it in September.

 

I think we've been told Honeymoon was done in early 2015,  but back then they were able to finish the albums much closer to the release date without the messy "vinyl backlog" thing. We know she was still recording for Lust For Life in early June for a July release.

 

59 minutes ago, iktr said:

 

— What is interesting, she the first and only time mentioned the sound of the early version of Ultraviolence (that she done with Rick before handing it over to Dan), saying that first sessions for Honeymoon sounded very similar to the easley version of Ultraviolence

 

Hmm this is interesting? I quite remember that quote but I thought it was that "early Honeymoon sessions were too close to Ultraviolence sound" as in Ultraviolence final, which makes sense with snippets like Dark City and the fact she was just extending from the Ultraviolence mixing sessions

1 hour ago, Lonely Planet said:

after over a decade As Mean As You HQ has leaked! https://dbree.org/v/244666

 

The simulation is BROKEN omg.

Just now, Dominikx4 said:

i think a huge problem is that large parts of the audience want her to sing all those old songs.

 

girls still dress up as BTD lana and are screaming for Cherry and Summertime Sadness. Heart-shaped sunglasses are everywhere and they're still acting as though Lana is in her Lolita era - and sadly, us fans who care for her newer stuff get the short end of the stick

 

Honestly I think sort of yes but also kind of no, because she's been getting bigger and bigger; Norman Fucking Rockwell basically set a second wave of fans and Ocean Blvrd also managed to get a lot of fans. I think it's more of her thinking that's what people want and also... let's be honest. acting a little lazy while playing safe. No surprise she's always pulling some different games when she's playing these random Alabama/Desert shows.

 

I get that people love Born To Die (song), but I'm also sure they'd freak out if she went for Cinnamon Girl instead of it and so on. I know it sounds crazy that we're replacing one of her singles for an album track, but it's quite literally one of her most requested songs ever. I find it surprising she decided to cut Blue Jeans this time around, but it's just not missed. At this point, she could go for Summertime Sadness & Video Games only and I don't think people would mind that much about the ratio of Born To Die songs, or at least bring something she hasn't done in forever (which in this case would be Without You), but that's it.

 

Just like I mentioned Bartender, we also have the cases of like Cherry & Pretty When You Cry; they're non-singles and, if they weren't performed at every tour since 2018, people would freak out about them, but at this point it's just the same songs being performed over and over again. Off To The Races reached a similar saturation point and thank God she decided to let go, because once/when she decided to bring it back, it will be like "whew BOPPPP!!" instead of "again???"

 

I honestly think the only chance of changing this would be going back to the drawing board and creating a setlist from 0 instead of recycling ideas.

I think the most bizarre thing about the setlist is just the consistency that she's been playing most of the same songs since 2012 18. I mean choices like Bartendes are super left-field when you think about it, but she literally sang it during the Norman Fucking Rockwell Tour and just kept it there. Reminds me of when she just re-used the Change/Young and Beautiful medley as well like... girl move on.

 

 

This West Coast intermission is so stupid akskskssksksk. I get the VIBEZ but if at least she sang the second verse + chorus.

 

 

Anyway, messy setlist aside, this is her best show since Endless Summer (Structure Wise). If she swapped up the songs like she did back with LA To The Moon, would be easily her best show.

9 minutes ago, Sportscruiser said:

 

Anyways, this is me not giving up.

 

 

LINDOOO

 

Get that marlboro infront of the glass, she'll sniff it

Don't forget to show her the notebook picture and ask if it's fake rolex, put us out of our misery please 

 

 

Jokes apart, hope everything goes well and you guys get an amazing concert (and Sportcruiser get that exclusive babe!!)

That yellow picture... It's Neil footage isn't it? Lana never bothered to go beyond B&W or Sepia filters we know that! Whatever it is, looks interesting! And it does fit better with the "West Coast Home Made" video than the Pretty When You Cry snippet. Thanks 4 sharing.

 

 

About Ultraviolence... I'm quite shocked to look back and realize, for real, it's been 10 years! 10 years of "It's gonna be released in may" "Me & Dan are excited to present you Ultraviolence" "Down on the west coast they got a sayin' billboard"... because everything feels like yesterday??

 

To be fair, at first I had a hard time with Ultraviolence. I was still too in-love with the bombastic-cinematic-silkwrapped-hip-hop-orchestral-strings-vibes of Born To Die to let it go, even after Paradise (which nowadays, as much as I adore it, feels like an overkill (complimentary), but I'll leave that for another day). To get this hazy, dark, turbulent, noisy, lofi, rockish album without much resembling its precedent was... too overwhelming, I think? I was also just a teenager who listened to nothing but pop music ok?? but back then, we were also getting 10x new unreleaseds per week so it was... easy to ignore the album?? Pairing the music and the "lack" of visuals when compared to Born To Die, it was easy to brush it away. I remember keeping Fucked My Way Up To The Top, Brooklyn Baby, Old Money, Money Power & Glory and the title track.

 

Then, the leaks were drying up, Honeymoon was coming up and I remember this very awkward drought from my favorite artists, and decided to just get back into Ultraviolence. And then step by step I saw and felt the record just unravelling right in my ears, how atmospheric it is, the endless layers that were always present, just not in--your-face... and how beautiful it really is; the world building, the synesthesia of it all. I can assure you that opening up to Ultraviolence was also important for me to finally open up to endless worlds of music out there and meet many new genres and artists.

 

 

 

 

20 minutes ago, HeyBlueBaby said:

If Masochism is really just a collection of demos, assuming she can no longer use those songs as they would belong to Capitol, she would have to write, record, and produce entirely new material.

 

Maybe we'll get another one off single in 3-6 months, but that's it.

 

 

Not really, she did mention the album being DONE on the first interview from yesterday, and even if Capitol did own "the songs", she's probably still allowed to re-record them (like Taylor Swift has been doing), but for the way she spoke it seems like she kept the songs and now she's trying to make it work.

 

The whole visuals + planning will probably take some extra time, but she did mention she wants to drop a song soon... I really think she'll try to shop the album around to see if some label picks it up.