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She spent like over an hour talking to fans and taking pictures and so on. 
 

they sang Video Games and Lust For Life, she sang along to LFL.

Did small choreo for A&W (probably confirmed) and looked a bit disgusted when someone suggested Wildfire Wildflower

Does the Rick James sample that Emile and Bhasker burnt to the ground count? I do love the texture of it.

3 minutes ago, emliqua said:

Is it normal for singles to impact radio weeks after they are released? I’m not familiar with the process 

Yeah, unless it's "lead single" and they force it on same day as release (which is usually useless when talking about huge stars because radios would play a demanded song doesn't matter when the check falls on their lap). 

I don't think they'll push this too much though.

Ok there's a joke\irony\destiny out there about the fact THIS sounds the closest to the Patrick "remix" compared to Fine China & Your Girl.

I mean... I miss the drums hitting harder and the James Ford (?) version with HEAVIER drums was my go-to version, but it's nice I can type "Yes To Heaven" and listen on apple music legally. I'm not gonna complain cuz it could have been Stint version which I hate.

The sped up version?

reading there are no drums and sweating already.

4 hours ago, AllForYou said:

honestly I've said this before that (acting like she's a real person) I don't think electra heart is 'dead' as she's deffo the type to gone girl fake her own death but I'm not sure that I trust marina to really pull that off? the 'retro electra heart' collection or whatever in 2019 was not it, yes it had some really good ideas like the silk gown, and the pinafore was a good idea, but the lime green 'bubblegum bitch' logo? when has electra heart ever been lime green? she was so desperate for that to colour scheme to work in the L+F era.

also the venus fly trap interpretation of electra heart... no ma'am, what's with the 1920s hair and brows? I know she used to jump around with the timing of electra heart, some of it was very 1950s but she called the radioactive video '70s americana', but 1920s it was not. there was one look in the venus fly trap video that screamed electra heart to me, and I know it was meant to reference the family jewels, but the 60s look gave me 'electra heart's gone into telemarketing' vibes. a subtle nod to big stars/it girls often forgotten about and left to the wayside once they got 'old'.

Marina probably would never go back to Electra Heart. I mean, she has a hard time singing stuff from past, when people were asking for bubblegum bitch music video the answer went straight to "no." with a "you can't go back to your past", and this is recent\during Ancient Dreams.

I don't even think the Venus Fly Trap reference was mean to be "so straight", she probably just pushed it from the same references that she used to build Electra Heart back then but... not a real "call back". And deep down, it's the kind of thing that should be left behind. It is iconic and mythological for a reason.

Ugh I do miss her serving concept.

29 minutes ago, Kristine said:

Something about this run of shows feels very indie, even for her. It kind of seems like maybe she’s sneaking out from Capitals control and finally able to do things? I could just be delusional and hoping for more than we will get. But maybe she’s finally just like fuck it and gonna do whatever she can if they like it or not. 

I believe the venues aren't small? And I know we all joke about $$$ But I can only imagine she does need some money that comes "easily" from these shows. It could be label\album related, like financially putting the last touches on the album, but at this point it doesn't even seem like that's the problem, but the roll-out and promotion from Capitol and so on.

16 hours ago, kuntsugi said:

didn't she scrap a grant singer directed visual for guardian too?

They never filmed it. She got sick in the meantime and then they couln't work scheduling it again.

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About the concerts, there's literally 2 options

She'll either premiere new music and focus on that, or make it a "10th anniversary" thing for NTMT (which would make sense since the promoters or whatever is sponsoring these shows is also making it as a "anniversary" thing). However, it's not like she has a very HUGE DISCOGRAPHY to pick from. She could easily do all 12 NTMT songs (she won't) and sing extra 4 new songs (she might) and that would be reasonable 16 songs setlist. For some reason she seems to ignore Ghost as As If so... I don't really suffer from it.

tbh not even sure if I'd enjoy live performances of songs we won't hear for the next millenium or, worst, she ends up releasing an album and said songs are nowhere to be seen. Stick to Descending, Innocent Kind and All My Lovers Die. And If I had the opportunity, I'd go for it. Even with all the mess around, at least it's a bucket list thing. 

There's something very interesting about the idea of Ego and Artistry envolved within these concepts. Like, no I totally get it; you want control about what the public hears and knows about you and so on. At same time... you're gone. It won't change a thing.

I know it sounds fuckup too but like... labels and Estates will label and estate. Of course there are many implications like these Michael Jackson tracks that people aren't sure it's actually he singing, and with the A.I. era we're entering... it's gloomy. But I don't know.

I'd let the fans have it and people make money. It won't really matter. lol.

5 hours ago, Kid Krow said:

can someone tell me if all the leaked songs are correctly distributed among the sessions?
 

Trouble Paradise:

• Tear Me Open (?)

 

She's singing Tear Me Open on the Aussie shows so it's probably on S3

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Jesus Christ what a song.

I kinda wish\mourn about that early concept of going more "Rock" and wonder if there's more in the vein on Sunshine that we haven't heard yet. The way the songs builds and builds and builds and then literally collapses............. I COLLAPSE. We just have the cassette rip right? 

Ok that was a serve. I guess the caption is about the upcoming "secret shows".

Baby that’s Lana del Rey - ultraviolence Freak music video 

but.

Did... Did you know?

There's a fire in your street. 

Terrorize the whole community!

I just remembered Descending and wow what a moment.

Edit: omg why the FUCK they chose Don't Forget instead of Descending i'm crying

Only explanation is that Don't Forget was actually a double music video.

13 minutes ago, SoftwareUpgrade said:

 

Who has been her primary producer for Masochism? Or has it switched numerous times throughout the sessions?

Assuming @rancidgirl would know

Pretty sure the early sessions were being handled with Mike Dean (Madonna, Travis Scott, Lana)

then something happened at label (lol!) and she changed to Jorge guy

What in the Question For The Culture hell is this 

I saw this some time ago. Almost sure it's Fan-Made or at last "Promo Only". I think we would have heard of it before tho.

I saw this some time ago. Almost sure it's Fan-Made or at last "Promo Only". I think we would have heard of it before tho.

She's in a very specific lane that whatever comes out will be enough to buzz her name around. Even when Pitchfork tried to shade Don't Forget and it didn't make a dent on the song perception with every other outlet praising it.

I don't know, there will always be more "what if's" (tehee) than conclusions, but there were many paths that could have propelled her career.

41 minutes ago, rancidgirl said:

iirc like 4 songs were supposed to get music videos, LIS, HMH, maybe i will?? i forgot it mightve just been LIS and HMH

43 minutes ago, kuntsugi said:

wait heavy metal heart was supposed to have a video? 

26 minutes ago, kuntsugi said:

i knew about love in stereo but not the others, do we have any backstage pics/proof of their existence or is it purely speculation?

She once posted a teaser for something with Heavy Metal Heart playing (I think it was some black and white footage while she was whipping her hair/head banging), but it seems like this has been erased from the internet.

From what I gathered, it was supposed to be a Live performance recorded for MTV by Grant Singer (i think). And then nothing was released.

Love In Stereo was a music video (I had no idea it was by Collin) shot on tape/VHS and something went wrong with the footage/it was lost.

Wait but the tea about Love In Stereo not actually being burnt and lost in the fire? That's new for me. Always thought it was giving me "dog ate my homework".

I don't know, I do feel bad and I can see where she's coming from. Deeeeeeeeeeep doooooown she's not wrong if Capitol is just greenlit the music without giving it any support and she's the one who's paying for it. Why would she record a whole album, release it, make 50 cents profit from it and then share these 50 cents with Label who's not willing to do their job, which is promoting Music and allowing budget... It's just loss for her and, while we can all live the fantasy "music not the bling", Girl does need to be compensated if she's doing her job. 

But yeah whatever I wish she'd speak about the Don't Forget video. Or release it??? 

I cannot stop screaming how the internet was basically going “that sample is bulletproof and there’s no way they can fumble the song” and then they get L*ke’s “my first trap beat” drum loop running. You can’t make this up I swear.

I have no ideia of how this will work for her. For sure Nicki’s name will do a fucking ton of heavy lifting and allow this to debut on Hot100, probably even a great peak… but it doesn’t strike me as something that will last.

her worst mistake was signing THAT contract instead of keeping her brand as it was.

Do we know who did the cinematography on "Love"? I've been trying to find out but nothing shows up, just that Rick Lee directed. I imagined there could be someone related to Lust For Life or White Mustang as well but nothing.

By far one of her greatest looking videos.

Something shifted 

3 minutes ago, wilting daisy said:

i don't think lana ever disliked the songs on the deluxe albums or wished they weren't released even if she didn't see them as properly apart of their albums. and i'm sure if black beauty didn't leak, it would've been on the standard version of ultraviolence. 

There's also the fact Born To Die had Without You and Lolita on Deluxe and, like, This Is What Makes Us Girls on the standard so... she was probably just pissing on Interscope back in 2014 lmao.

About the Deluxe thing debacle; people can change their minds. Gaga once said she hated the WORD "Deluxe" but mostly considered the "expanded" versions to be the official ones, so did Troye Sivan. Lana probably felt like Ultraviolence was its own thing with the standard, but we also know how Black Beauty is an important song and she also showed love to Florida Kilos performing it in few places. It makes sense that Lust For Life "Deluxe" could have been in the cards because she was still changing the album right before the release (Coachella case). I'm pretty sure it was confirmed the album was going to be like 20 songs or 18, and then the tracklist leaked with 16; she mentioned Yosemite being cut and the "4 political songs"; She was still trying to make music videos and had concepts for Cherry, Get Free and even the military video that has been assumed to be WTWWATWKD. She was interested in keeping the album rolling but then had other compromises like the Tour.

About Yes To Heaven; I'm so ready. Ever since she posted that screenshot of her name on google with "I'm doing great" with LANA DEL REY YES TO HEAVEN being like the third most searched line... i knew it.

She should have asked this question before Blue Bannisters.

Otherwise; yes. It's an easy "coin" since she's aware of so much content being around. Putting these on Spotify and pressing a limited vinyl at obscene price would be an instant sold out.