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  1. so did anyone order one?  :creep:

    I did... Livraison entre le 24 et le 26 aout. I will let you know but Fnac is one of the most famous reseller in France, and we have some stores in Italy too, so there shouldnt be any problem. So happy to finally have a physical Copy of pop 2, One of my fave records

    Genius, Kingdom Come final and WWBD were probably my favorites out of the 9 leaks. The others were okay, except TTWWL, that song was atrocious  :biblio: whoever the guy was on it sounded horrible

     

    Also appreciation post for Purpose cuz it's one of Charli's best songs  :defeated: it rlly should've been on Charli, it'd be cute after WM and before SC. The fact that 1999 was on the album but not Purpose.... there are no words

    I guess they had to make a choice between Purpose and WM, because they are so similar, and they went with WM because it's a lot more radio friendly. What I would have liked between WH and SC is Miss U tho


  2. A question for the culture:

    Do we know if there is a final version for 2 Bad/Valiums on Valentine? I love what we have so much but it's obviously incomplete


  3. Does anyone remember how they first got into Charli? I remember Just Desserts coming out and then I really got into True Romance and then Fancy came out, then she brought out Sucker and I kinda lost interest and then a guy I was on a date with showed me her performing songs like Bounce and No Angel live and I was like wtf is this and a demo of Trophy leaked and that was that

    Same but i gained interest again when a Friend told me N1A was out


  4. Alright, if the language use is the only thing you were talking about then I get it. 

    But the problem is, most people don't know when to stop. Some seriously think, for example, if eating sushi and using the word Kawaii is okay, then stealing and appropriating every aspect of Japanese culture (such as sexualising kimonos, using cultural symbols without context and throwing around the word Geisha wherever they please) is okay and not damaging. 

    I just want Lana to see where the line should be drawn.

     

     

    Stealing every aspect of the Japanese culture Is cultural appropriation. Words like sushi, kimono, kawaii entering into a languange vocabulary in order to cover gaps in definying certain concepts is not.


  5. Language is not the only thing that distinguishes culture. 

    I can learn any language I want but still I will not be part of the culture where the language comes from, nor will I know anything about what it's like to be from that culture, or even be opressed because of it.

     

    You used ignorant wrong here too. In this case, you'd be the ignorant one as you are completely denying the existence and harmful effects of cultural appropriation. Don't get mad, that's just how language works.

     

    First of all I'm not denying the effects of cultural appropriation. I don't thing you've understood what im trying to talk about. But whatever. Borrowings, calques, and loanwords are words that migrates from a languange to another. Or from a slang to another. Or from a register to another. It's a human and natural process and people can't just stop it because of cultural appropriation.

    yeah but i'm not even talking about using slang. she literally herself said that the name was inspired by Colombians (or Cubans? i forget) and continued to push the hispanic image in her music. she also randomly decided to switch up and use certain slang when curating her "gangsta" persona. thats not the same as just speaking with slang

     

    I'm not condoning Lana Del Rey


  6. The conversation around terms being popularised by black LGBT+ ppl (usually drag queens) and the line between something being appropriation and something being popular internet slang (e.g. sis, spill the tea) is an interesting conversation, charging in saying "as a linguist you woke snowflakes need to shut up" isn't <3

    I mean you're right, but you know what? Being fake woke just for the sake of it is definetely a sign of ignorance, not contextualising is a sign of ignorance, the internet and this forum is unfortunately full of it, and it's getting extremely tiring.


  7. boomer behaviour in the midst of this thread 

     

     

    pls. you're not special for knowing how languages develop over centuries. but theres a difference between natural cultural shifts on a massive scale and an individual privileged white woman picking and choosing random cultural things for her aesthetic you're not seeing

     

    No no. We can agree on the "Del Rey" thing bit i've read things like "you can't use sis' because it comes from the black community" and this is crazy. Yes It comes from the black community but sis and other terms coming from the black community have become so popular that we even use them in Italian as loanwords. Is that cultural appropriation? Nope. It's just how languages work.


  8. I've read something in the last pages, and I'm not gonna comment on the other aspects of it, but as a linguist This cultural appropriation thing regarding slang or vocabulary is so Stupid and ignoranti I can't even. Listen woke snowflakes, if you had any clues about how languages change and work over time you wouldnt open such silly discussions. Borrowings, calques, contaminations are common thing in linguistics. Stop using english because 70% of its vocabulary comes from french and latin words. That's cultural appropriation, except both cultural and appropriation are romanic words.


  9. Sometimes I am shocked by you saying NFR lyrics are weak or uninspired... Just because there are not many flowery tumblr cringe shit lyrics she used to write doesnt mean it's bad or less poetic. Mariners Apartment Complex is so true and powerful, How To Disappear is heartbreaking, the metaphor in Happyness is splendid and Hope is so touching. Just because they are simpler doesnt mean they're bad, in fact I think they are more genuine and they hit right home.


  10. 1. Ultraviolence/Honeymoon (can't decide, really Lana's peak)

    2. NFR

    And that's the TEA.

     

    I see many of you saying that NFR is her most mainstream and commercial album when the whole BTD era and album were so so staged, so mainstream, so pop. And I'm not saying it in negative way, but that's facts. BTD is iconic and a good debut album but It's overrated for obvious reasons, it had a huge impact. LFL, well, exists but it gave us many classics. Paradise is an EP. And then Ultraviolence, Honeymoon and NFR are the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

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