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Kill Kill vs TV in Black & White
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Lana Del Rey Heardle #626 🔊🟩⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️⬜️ https://lana-del-rey-heardle.netlify.app/
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Isn't "baroque folk" essentially an oxymoron? Baroque music is known for being grandiose, dramatic and energetic while folk tends to be harmonically simple, low-key and minimalistic. Like Baroque pop works because you can easily make a pop song that has lavish, grand production with dramatic string instruments, etc. But baroque folk? I'm having trouble imagining what that would even sound like. Do you have any examples?
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I just can't square this with her singing lyrics like "Jenny handed me a beer" and "You bring the coffee I'll bring the wine" that clearly take place more recently in her life. I also remember a fan bumping into her and Jack at a hotel bar and he said they were drinking beer. I guess it's possible she's in the "moderation management" mode of recovery that says it's fine to drink once in awhile as long as you aren't overdoing it and getting wasted. Like, if you feel comfortable enough and like you can handle it.
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Personally I think 20 years is probably just referring to 20 years since she started on the path/journey of being a musician. 2004 is when she moved to NYC and started her music career beginning to write songs and sing in bars and stuff.
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I know a lot of people hate religion but I really think this song is about Jesus (her bestest friend). At least partly. Hear me out. "Gargoyles standing in front of your gate" Gargoyles originated as something that were put on churches and cathedrals in the Middle Ages.They were meant to inspire fear in churchgoers, and were also said to ward off demons and evil spirits. Look at any Catholic church even now and you'll see always gargoyles outside of them. "I can't wait to see you, so I run like I'm mad to heaven's door" The church is "heaven's door." It's commonly called a "thin place" where the boundary between the mortal realm and heaven is thin and God can be felt more easily. She mentions roses and in Christian symbolism red roses symbolize the blood Jesus shed on the cross. "You've got a flair for the violentest kind of love anywhere out there" Jesus showed how much he loved the world by allowing himself to be brutally tortured and killed. "Sweet child of mine, you're divine." He's Mary's child. Also God's. Literally a divine being. "Don't be afraid of me, don't be ashamed. Walk in the way of my soft resurrection." I think this is actually Lana singing from Jesus PoV. The first thing he says after he is resurrected from the dead is "Don't be afraid." and he actually says it several other times in the bible. He's asking Lana to not be ashamed of him and how she feels about him and to walk in the way of his crucifixion and resurrection. I had this idea while listening the other day. Would explain why the instrumental is so "heavenly" sounding too.
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She says it to two different questions. The interviewer asks her "You’ve said in the past that you weren’t drinking either, and yet it turns up in your music. Do you drink now?" and she says "No comment." Then later she mentions she used to use drugs he asks "What kind of drugs did you do?" and she says "No comment." again.
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I mean, she doesn't have to do anything but but just look at her current daily streaming numbers. Summertime Sadness, Y&B, SYTH and West Coast all currently get more daily streams than Let The Light In. Even Diet Mountain Dew gets more daily streams than Margaret does. BTD is undeniably her most commercially successful album. I don't think she'll ever go back to her old sound, but acting like she wouldn't make bank if she did is equally delusional. I think a good compromise would be her just releasing an album of some of her older unreleased songs, which she's been claiming she's going to do for years anyways. Fans get their bops and Lana doesn't have to sacrifice or change her current artistic sensibilities in any way or force herself to record a pop album when she clearly doesn't feel like it.
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OMG did she finally hire a new stylist??? She said "no comment" in a Pitchfork interview when they asked if she was sober in 2017 so idk.
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LANALYSIS: Relating Songs To Known/Assumed Relationships
mermaidsparkle replied to Sitar's topic in Lana Thoughts
One minor correction/addition here is that Lana's boyfriend was Mikey Martin at one point. Maybe in 2006 according to photos? Lana talked about how Rob was her boyfriend at the time's best friend, and then Mikey broke up with her and "married his merch girl" and Lana ended up dating his best friend "for a minute" according to her. I think "Get Drunk" is basically her taunting Mikey like "I'm sleeping with your best friend, how do you like me now?" -
This is right up my alley because I'm a huge fan of early 20th century music. I'm hoping for a vintage jazz cover. Maybe a popular Gershwin standard? Something like "Somebody Loves Me" or "The Man I Love". Either way, since it's about Christian Dior and Coco Chanel I doubt it's going to be another folk or country track so I'm excited.
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Why would I be mad about it? I don't begrudge people their right to enjoy basic country music.
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Everyone hoping for something fun and different but it's just going to be a folk/country music album with basic production and lyrics about how happy and content she is living on her horse ranch and going to church every Sunday with her best friends Margaret and Nikki Lane or whatever. Everyone will eat it up anyways though.
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I agree. I don't see her pushing her limits anytime soon though, she's comfortable and I think she wants to stay there. You're right it's going to lead to her music sounding more routine though. The comfort zone is the great enemy to creativity.
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They're really not the same. I literally grew up in a Trailer Park. You think there aren’t women in their 30s and 40s living there? That they all move out to the farm/ horse ranch and start dressing like cowgirls as soon as they get “mature" enough or something?
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Nope, nothing to do with "coquette". If you don't get the difference between the fun, camp "I work as a waitress at a diner and live in a trailer that I decorate with streamers and lights and plastic flamingos and Jesus is my bestest friend" version of Lana and the current "I ride horses and John Deere tractors and wear cowboy boots YEE HAW" version, that sounds like a you problem.
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I think it's good in a "it's fun and catchier than you expect" way but not good if you're comparing it to the skills of actual/real rappers.
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I'm getting tired of yee yee country girl Lana. I know she had this whole folk/country schtick during her Lizzy Grant days but it felt more ironic back then. It was different. Like the exaggerated southern drawl she used on Mermaid Motel or in Trash Magic. Singing about Christmas lights on trailers and stuff. It was camp. I miss that.
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I appreciate this theory but I guess we'll have to hear her next album to know for sure whether it's actually true or not.
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There is a difference between a track having guitar on it and being guitar dominant. White Dress, Chemtrails, LMLYLAW are definitely piano dominated tracks, maybe because those were the singles they're the ones that stick out in my head the most. The 2nd half of the album is guitar dominant, but like I said, it's country-style guitar that just isn't to my personal taste.
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Yeah, for sure. I get that she probably doesn't want the drama and likes the peace she's found in her life, but sometimes that really can lead to less willingness to try things outside the box. I remember hearing that her and Dan really didn't get along and fought and argued a lot during the production of UV, but we sure ended up with a good album. You're right though, some of the tracks on Ocean Blvd have definitely made me hopeful that she might be willing to try something different again on the next record.
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You're right a couple songs on Chemtrails do have guitar but it is HEAVILY dominated by piano. Also most of the guitar on it is all played in major key, except for "Yosemite" and "Dark But Just A Game" which happen to be my favourite songs on the album. Major key just isn't to my personal taste, I study music theory and there are a lot of reasons for this and I could bore people to death giving an in depth explanation for it, but for the sake of simplicity I'll just say it always sounds a little too country music-ish to me, since C-Major, F-Major and G-Major are used a LOT in country music. I realize that's a totally subjective thing though and a lot of people love country music, and more power to them.
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Yeah, I don't see her going outside of her comfort zone. Lana is the Adam Sandler of music, and before anyone jumps me I don't mean this the way people might think. It's like, Adam Sandler has said that he generally prefers to stay in his comfort zone of making fun/easy movies with with best friends. He always casts all his besties in his movies, and never really does anything wildly different, and that's the way he prefers it. I think Lana is similar. You can see the same attitude with her backup singers and dancers too. They're her friends and she's comfortable with them, so she keeps them there despite all the jokes and complaints about them. I think once she makes friends with a producer she seems to become very reluctant to move on to someone else bc it's just more enjoyable for her to make music with someone she already likes and is comfortable with. Considering she's even good friends with Jack's wife at this point, I don't see her moving on from him anytime soon.
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I can't deal with another album full of piano ballads. If she does decide to do another "chill" album, I'll be praying for some acoustic guitar instead. I would LOVE some stuff from her that's reminiscent of her earlier May Jailer/Lizzy Grant stuff. Like, I've been listening to "A Star for Nick" a lot recently and it's so good. Has this calm, eerie, almost ethereal quality to it that I would love to see her go for again. I really loved the acoustic guitar in A&W too (not counting the end of the song, obviously)