Norman Fucking Rockwell - Post-Release Discussion Thread + Poll

[West Coast]

  On 12/21/2019 at 4:13 AM, Cacciatore said:

Oh wow thats what I've been feeling about this album but couldn't put into words, thanks.

 

It definitely lacks the cinematic/mysterious vibes the other albums had, and it's funny how Jack said his intention was to leave some space for imagination when, for me, this is her most straight forward album. As you said, it's pretty straight forward so it doesn't leave much to imagination.

 

But on the other hand I like this album because it doesn't require much thinking, if that makes sense? Lana herself said this is a mood album and I love to listen to it while doing nothing, it's a great album to listen while lying in bed staring at the ceiling lmao 

 

It's a great album to listen to when you painting your entire house with beige paint. 

 

I appreciate that he went into a different direction as far as production and melodic construction go. But, like you said, it's pretty straightforward comparatively to her other albums. I don't want to use the word dreamy, but like it's not very dreamy. But then again, that's just my repetitive opinion.

[Jared]

Wow, this Sputinik write-up on NFR is a must-read! It accurately recognizes Born To Die and Norman as Lana's ''cultural touchstone'' albums, has a great (and true) Tool/metaleads anecdote, uses ''pristine'' to describe Jack's production (hard to get more accurate than that). This guy just gets it! So good!

 

 

https://www.sputnikmusic.com/blog/2019/12/20/staffs-top-50-albums-of-2019-10-1/

[movebaby]

  On 12/21/2019 at 4:13 AM, Cacciatore said:

It definitely lacks the cinematic/mysterious vibes the other albums had, and it's funny how Jack said his intention was to leave some space for imagination when, for me, this is her most straight forward album. As you said, it's pretty straight forward so it doesn't leave much for you to figure out or a situation to create on your own mind.

 

this i think is my biggest issue with the album (and not just this album, its a broader phenomenon): i understand and appreciate the concept of trying to leave space for imagination and i think thats a really beautiful idea, but you have to spark that imagination in the first place. leaving room is all well and good but you gotta kickstart what you're leaving room for! its like jack/lana were like "ok we're gonna go for a candle instead of a firework show with this one" but then forgot to actually light the candle 

[West Coast]

  On 12/21/2019 at 4:39 AM, movebaby said:

this i think is my biggest issue with the album (and not just this album, its a broader phenomenon): i understand and appreciate the concept of trying to leave space for imagination and i think thats a really beautiful idea, but you have to spark that imagination in the first place. leaving room is all well and good but you gotta kickstart what you're leaving room for! its like jack/lana were like "ok we're gonna go for a candle instead of a firework show with this one" but then forgot to actually light the candle

Has there ever been written anything more accurate about this album? How you describe Jack's production (hard to get more accurate than that). You just get it! So good!

[Jared]

Some members can beat around the bushes all they want, but we all know what they're really saying. They want the same old, same old. 

 

[Tammy]

NFR is an amazing album and deserves all the success, attention and love it can get just like all her other stuff!

[movebaby]

  On 12/21/2019 at 4:46 AM, MXDH said:

Has there ever been written anything more accurate about this album? How you describe Jack's production (hard to get more accurate than that). You just get it! So good!   

 

thanks babe!   appreciate your posts in here, you know whats up and do a great job articulating it

[Doll Harlow]

  On 12/21/2019 at 5:39 AM, Jared said:

Some members can beat around the bushes all they want, but we all know what they're really saying. They want the same old, same old. 

 

You really like that gif don't you

[movebaby]

  On 12/21/2019 at 6:21 AM, Doll Harlow said:

You really like that gif don't you

 

speaking of same old, same old 

[West Coast]

  On 12/21/2019 at 6:20 AM, movebaby said:

thanks babe! appreciate your posts in here, you know whats up and do a great job articulating it

Thank you so much MoveBaby! I really try, but it's hard in those LanaBoards water. Your posts are well articulated as well!

 

Some members can beat around the bushes all they want, but we all know what they're really saying. They want Lana to be beige and tamed! But above all, can't stand the idea of being critical towards Lana. Oh well. If by same old same old they mean quality production, intricate instrumentation and atmospheric soundscape, then hell yeah I want same old same old.

[Ultra Violet]

  On 12/21/2019 at 5:39 AM, Jared said:

Some members can beat around the bushes all they want, but we all know what they're really saying. They want the same old, same old. 

 

 

I wouldn't call any of Lana's albums same old same old. Theyre all completedly unique. 

NFR just isn't great. 

[SuperMegaStan]

TheNeedleDrop Year End List:

 

Album: NFR! - #33

Song: The greatest - #33

 

he came from a hater to a stan in denial

[Rorman Nockwell]

  On 12/21/2019 at 8:44 PM, Vitamin Lana said:

nfr mv is genuinely so boring, it's nothing we haven't already seen. i like the hiab part though.

 

also y'all overhyping nfr like your life depends on it rlly just shows how bland the album is, we get it now, get a job geez lana having 2 flop albums isn't a big deal, we can move on and hope the next one will be better next time.

 

I just wanna say I'm so glad you're back!

[Cacciatore]

  On 12/22/2019 at 1:06 AM, SuperMegaStan said:

TheNeedleDrop Year End List:

 

Album: NFR! - #33

Song: The greatest - #33

 

he came from a hater to a stan in denial

 

#33? I think we need to bully him some more.

[Jared]

I think I was pretty clear in my original post. If you come here and say that Lana has been tamed and that the album lacks the cinematic/mysterious/dramatic vibes the other albums had, then you want the same old and that's a fact.

 

And Norman Fucking Rockwell, the most acclaimed album of the year, up for top Grammy awards, doesn't need some random forum users to hype it up. 

 

[West Coast]

  On 12/21/2019 at 8:40 PM, Ultra Violet said:

I wouldn't call any of Lana's albums same old same old. Theyre all completedly unique. 

NFR just isn't great. 

 

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[Ultra Violet]

  On 12/22/2019 at 2:16 AM, Jared said:

I think I was pretty clear in my original post. If you come here and say that Lana has been tamed and that the album lacks the cinematic/mysterious/dramatic vibes the other albums had, then you want the same old and that's a fact.

 

And Norman Fucking Rockwell, the most acclaimed album of the year, up for top Grammy awards, doesn't need some random forum users to hype it up. 

 

 

Let me clarify, as I should have in my original reply.

 

Lana has been tamed by Jack's production. Jack lacks the cinematic/mysterious/dramatic vibes that her other producers had, and we want her outstanding music to return and that's a fact.

And Norman Fucking Rockwell, the most boring album of her discography, does not need to win Lana a grammy in order for her to move on and make better things with her producers again. 

[West Coast]

  On 12/22/2019 at 2:57 AM, Ultra Violet said:

Let me clarify, as I should have in my original reply.

 

Lana has been tamed by Jack's production. Jack lacks the cinematic/mysterious/dramatic vibes that her other producers had, and we want her outstanding music to return and that's a fact.

And Norman Fucking Rockwell, the most boring album of her discography, does not need to win Lana a grammy in order for her to move on and make better things with her producers again. 

 

I find it extremely funny, but kind of unsettling, how all these years we were, in a way, fine that Lana didn't really get the type of acclaim she's been receiving for NFR. Because we knew that her albums were amazing and the industry selectively kissing some artists' butts was not something Lana needed as an artist. But now some fans act as if that's all that matters for Lana, to receive this sort of validation from the very same industry that has paid her dust and disregarded her for so many years. Like they turn a blind eye on the how the industry is just ridiculous, and act as if they are actually right when they dictate what is great and what is not. 

 

But also acting like the thought police of a forum when other fans dare express their so called negative opinions or thoughts and basically want to create some type of 'safe space' specifically for fans that are in love with the album. It's a freaking forum. 

[TROPICUM]

I didn't know NFR! had haters

 

 

Only on LB I guess

 

[West Coast]

  On 12/22/2019 at 3:37 AM, TROPICUM said:

I didn't know NFR! had haters

 

 

Only on LB, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, Facebook, The world at large I guess

 

 

baby, now you do