Ethel Cain

[Ethel Cain 9,162]

11 minutes ago, baddisease said:

I have sympathy for the videos and bank thing. I don't have it around music she chose to put out there and then decided to take it back. That was on her. And nobody told her to make a Discord full of impressionable young fans, put music she'd eventually not want people to hear out in it, then give the Pikachu face when people get it and hear it.

Why? Have you never done anything in the past that you later decided you didn't like and were embarrassed of? How would you feel if something like that got leaked? Cause I'm damn sure you wouldn't be happy and you would have the right to be. Especially considering one of the songs was from pre/very early stages of her transition.

 

Also, the only song that leaked because of her directly sharing it with fans was "Brood X", the rest of the songs were as she said from her hacked SoundCloud. It's a very different thing to say "It's entirely her fault that the songs were on SoundCloud and the people that hacked her did nothing wrong" than "It was irresponsible to have them up and she should learn something from this."

[Dralw 35]

1 hour ago, Ethel Cain said:

Why was she in a discord chat with a bunch of immature teenagers in the first place?

this might be confusing cus im gonna keep things nonspecific, but basically someone got in contact with hayden via instagram and after a bit of talking they moved to discord. Then eventually the person talking with her asked if they could add her to a server with their friends and they talked on there and she shared a few songs with them.

[Shadowheart 3,838]

1 minute ago, Dralw said:

this might be confusing cus im gonna keep things nonspecific, but basically someone got in contact with hayden via instagram and after a bit of talking they moved to discord. Then eventually the person talking with her asked if they could add her to a server with their friends and they talked on there and she shared a few songs with them.

its lowkey giving Colleen Ballinger parasocial groupchats 

[Dralw 35]

x

[baddisease 18,248]

17 minutes ago, Ethel Cain said:

Why? Have you never done anything in the past that you later decided you didn't like and were embarrassed of? How would you feel if something like that got leaked? Cause I'm damn sure you wouldn't be happy and you would have the right to be. Especially considering one of the songs was from pre/very early stages of her transition

 

I have. And I would be upset. But I wouldn't expect people to hold OTHER people accountable for my role in creating that. 

 

Case in point, I've had early transition pics and nudes leaked but I don't blame anyone else but myself for that. Hell, all of my sex work pages and sites and materials made it to my immediate family and even though it was my sister's bitch of a friend that got it to them, it was entirely my fault they weren't secure and away from their proximity in the first place.

[Ethel Cain 9,162]

1 minute ago, baddisease said:

Case in point, I've had early transition pics and nudes leaked but I don't blame anyone else but myself for that. Hell, all of my sex work pages and sites and materials made it to my immediate family and even though it was my sister's bitch of a friend that got it to them, it was entirely my fault they weren't secure and away from their proximity in the first place.

I'm sorry that happened. I think we mostly agree then, that it can be the fault of both parties. The point that I was trying to make was that the songs were secure, they were private and on her protected SoundCloud account. I just think that in that specific situation it's more on the people who decide to breach that security.

[kingk 569]

11 minutes ago, Dralw said:

couldnt agree more, i completely understand where shes coming from with some of the points, but sending a hate mob after a group of kids (the youngest being 13) is not it; and just to add on to my previous post yes, she did know their ages. I know a few people who are in the group she was talking about and they've been getting death threats-- although it's not haydens fault for what her fans do i think its not a suprise that it's happening and im very disappointed that she didn't think to consider the consequences her post would have on the kids she was blasting. again, i know she cant control what her fans do but it is her responsibility to think before she posts.

how did hayden “send a hate mob after a group of kids”? no one even knows who these kids are, there was no personal information divulged whatsoever lol

[Dralw 35]

1 minute ago, kingk said:

how did hayden “send a hate mob after a group of kids”? no one even knows who these kids are, there was no information divulged whatsoever lol

honestly you're not wrong i need to edit that message it comes off way too harsh and doesnt really convey what i was trying to say 😭 but she clearly gave enough info about the group of kids in question for some people to know who she was talking about especially for people who are more involved in the fandom. sorry if my message sounded like a coke rant, i was just frustrated that my friends are getting threats and people are trying to doxx them 🤕

[landeath 607]

40 minutes ago, Dralw said:

this might be confusing cus im gonna keep things nonspecific, but basically someone got in contact with hayden via instagram and after a bit of talking they moved to discord. Then eventually the person talking with her asked if they could add her to a server with their friends and they talked on there and she shared a few songs with them.

do you know exactly when was that? because she's been always against sharing her old stuff/leaks or any thing related to her and then she would just share songs with a person she started to chat with and put her in a random discord group with random people? i'm lowkey judging this part lol (not the hacking tho, this was definitely horrible).

[Dralw 35]

5 minutes ago, landeath said:

do you know exactly when was that? because she's been always against sharing her old stuff/leaks or any thing related to her and then she would just share songs with a person she started to chat with and put her in a random discord group with random people? i'm lowkey judging this part lol (not the hacking tho, this was definitely horrible).

this was on November 16th, 2024 (: 

[Dralw 35]

7 minutes ago, landeath said:

because she's been always against sharing her old stuff/leaks or any thing related to her and then she would just share songs with a person she started to chat with and put her in a random discord group with random people?

she only shared stuff from ethel cain era execpt for one song that was made in-between ethel cain and WS (hasnt leaked so i wont say the name)

[landeath 607]

4 minutes ago, Dralw said:

this was on November 16th, 2024 (: 

 

2 minutes ago, Dralw said:

she only shared stuff from ethel cain era execpt for one song that was made in-between ethel cain and WS (hasnt leaked so i wont say the name)

goddamn she definitely asked for the Brood X leak so...

if the other ones leak as well she can't complaint

[Ethel Cain 9,162]

Honestly very dumb on her part to share songs with literal children that she just met  in no universe would that ever end well

[Dralw 35]

6 minutes ago, landeath said:

goddamn she definitely asked for the Brood X leak so...

if the other ones leak as well she can't complaint

im pretty sure they wont because Brood X only leaked as revenge cus of drama that happened, so unless something like that happens again it prob isnt gonna 😭 also sorry i replied to your thing in two messages i didnt mean to 

[fl0r1dakil0s 21,821]

does she play roblox with them too or?

[cainforever 34]

so confused why would she join and send songs to the group of people who were dedicated to finding all her old music and were already posting it online?? like isnt it the same one with a bunch of white silas pfps and usernames

[Billie 1,301]

well she’s a bit silly isn’t she 

[kingk 569]

1 hour ago, Dralw said:

she only shared stuff from ethel cain era execpt for one song that was made in-between ethel cain and WS (hasnt leaked so i wont say the name)

nvm i realized i dont care 

but if u reply before i edit its fine too