Lana with Jack Antonoff at Jim Henson Studios in Los Angeles, CA - April 2nd, 2022

[West Coast]

  On 4/4/2022 at 4:27 PM, Jared said:

So what you're proudly admitting is that you're a one-dimensional music consumer who has a preconceived notion of what Lana's music is supposed to sound like. If it doesn't meet your preconceived notion, you just dismiss it. That's the worst way to approach music or any art and it's a very common trait among ''fans'' on this site. And that's why I often say that hardcore fans are the artist's worst enemy because they're the ones who try to put them in a box and constrain them.

NFR is so popular because it's a great album. The strongest and most consistent album of Lana's career. There's no conspiracy there.

 

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One day we'll have concrete proof that you're truly Jack in disguise, or that you're squatting Jack's basement

[Fingertips]

Can we go one day without fighting about this, or at least go one day without trying to change other people's opinions 

 

I'm the king.mp3 of starting these debates, but now it's getting old, even to me.

[Venice Peach]

  On 4/4/2022 at 2:54 PM, West Coast said:

Lana has not made a cohesive or so called conceptual album since Honeymoon. Everything after Honeymoon has been more or less a collection of songs she likes (judging by all the songs she mentions and eventually adds on the next album over and all the unreleased songs that we know of).

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I don't think conceptual and cohesive should be considered the same thing. A conceptual album is about the lyrics whether it is about the same topic or follow a clear storyline. A cohesive record is more about the sound and instruments used. I don't think Lana has any concept albums but UV, HM and Chemtrails were highly cohesive

[West Coast]

  On 4/4/2022 at 4:36 PM, Venice Peach said:

I don't think conceptual and cohesive should be considered the same thing. A conceptual album is about the lyrics whether is about the same topic or follow a clear storyline. A cohesive record is more about the sound and instruments used. I don't think Lana has any concept albums but UV, HM and Chemtrails were highly cohesive

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either way her albums haven't been conceptual or that cohesive after Honeymoon. 

[COCC]

There‘s a picture on the wall

[Glitter Boy]

  On 4/4/2022 at 4:40 PM, COCC said:

There‘s a picture on the wall

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with me and a John Deere  

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OMG people pls calm down  

I've been on a Lana streaming streak so I right now can't decide which Lana album I like the better, but for sure I love them all for different reasons. If you ask me, I'm very intrigued to hear what is she working on now, even if it's with Jack once again

[GeminiLanaFan]

  On 4/4/2022 at 4:37 PM, West Coast said:

either way her albums haven't been conceptual or that cohesive after Honeymoon. 

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HM is her most cohesive. Periodt. 
LFL is easily her least (which might be why it is so hated here by so many). But I find all of her other projects just diverse enough. Not trying to convince anyone here: we’re all entitled to our opinions. 

[Fingertips]

Honeymoon, Ultraviolence, and Chemtrails Over the Country Club are her most cohesive records, in that order. Lust for Life, NFR and Blue Banisters are her least cohesive. I didn't even know this was up for debate. 

[GeminiLanaFan]

As I mentioned on the LDR9 thread, whether we like it or not, there was some “unfinished business” with Jack after Chemtrails: the pandemic made it hard to work with him via Zoom. I’m just curious how much he is involved on LDR9, if he is indeed the main producer 

[Super Movie]

  On 4/4/2022 at 4:40 PM, COCC said:

There‘s a picture on the wall

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Of another Jack debate 

Lana posted on Instagram

with Taylor Swift to celebrate 

Jaaaaack's grammyyyy 

Mmmm, mmm

 

Jared made a comeback

Much to everyone's dismay 

To start even more fights

Coming quickly in the wake

of Jaaaaack's grammyyy

Mmmm, mmm

 

Every thread became a fight

About Jack or Nikki Lane 

I said, "can you all just chill 

And talk about something else for a change?" 

She said, "you can't wait for LDR9 and be happy too 

You can't rehash the same argument anytime you're bored

and be happy"

And that scared me 

 

[bigspender]

  On 4/4/2022 at 4:27 PM, Jared said:

So what you're proudly admitting is that you're a one-dimensional music consumer who has a preconceived notion of what Lana's music is supposed to sound like. If it doesn't meet your preconceived notion, you just dismiss it. That's the worst way to approach music or any art and it's a very common trait among ''fans'' on this site. And that's why I often say that hardcore fans are the artist's worst enemy because they're the ones who try to put them in a box and constrain them.

NFR is so popular because it's a great album. The strongest and most consistent album of Lana's career. There's no conspiracy there.

 

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you’re right tho, you can’t just dislike an album just because of what she was going for if you like the cinematography, richness, and tracks lol 

[West Coast]

  On 4/4/2022 at 4:45 PM, Thunder said:

Honeymoon, Ultraviolence, and Chemtrails Over the Country Club are her most cohesive records, in that order. Lust for Life, NFR and Blue Banisters are her least cohesive. I didn't even know this was up for debate. 

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It's true.

 

[yourolllikethunder]

the way that I feel we get the most tea / inside lewks from Robert England Grant’s instagram, bless u sir

[Fingertips]

  On 4/4/2022 at 4:56 PM, West Coast said:

It's true.

 

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Bestie

 

[LifeOnMars]

How are some people so sure that her most recent albums are unauthentic? Has Lana said anything to indicate that? Artists are allowed to change their musical and writing styles. She clearly is in a more low key phase of her life right now and the music indicates that. Just because you can no longer relate to the music or don’t like the soundscapes she has been using on her albums does not mean that she is not being authentic. 

[the ocean]

if anything i’d say her new albums are her MOST authentic

 

it’s just that the production is reverby and washed out

 

edit: this goes for both the jack albums & blue banisters which means it’s probably a lana thing and not necessarily a jack thing

 

i think blue banisters just has better songs which is why i prefer it over the jack albums

[NikoGo]

Lana said in December that the next album was going to be better than BB, so I’d assume she had a good number of songs done to come to that conclusion. 
 

Did her and Jack just start working together again recently or have they been recording for awhile now and just now decided to open up about it??

 

I hope loved you then and now/Rock Candy sweet finally finds it’s home.

 

(and BOZ’s favorite song from BB that Lana scrapped) 

[Vertimus]

  On 4/4/2022 at 5:06 PM, LifeOnMars said:

How are some people so sure that her most recent albums are unauthentic? Has Lana said anything to indicate that? Artists are allowed to change their musical and writing styles. She clearly is in a more low key phase of her life right now and the music indicates that. Just because you can no longer relate to the music or don’t like the soundscapes she has been using on her albums does not mean that she is not being authentic. 

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I certainly think COCC and BB are authentic. They're two of my favorites of all her LDR records. 

[bluechemtrails]

Whatever we think of Jack or NFR, shouldn't we nonetheless be pleased that Lana is currently working with a producer many people consider the world's best of last year?

[EndlessSummer]

  On 4/4/2022 at 5:27 PM, Niko Dealergo said:

Lana said in December that the next album was going to be better than BB, so I’d assume she had a good number of songs done to come to that conclusion. 
 

Did her and Jack just start working together again recently or have they been recording for awhile now and just now decided to open up about it??

 

I hope loved you then and now/Rock Candy sweet finally finds it’s home.

 

(and BOZ’s favorite song from BB that Lana scrapped) 

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Wasn’t BOZ’s fav that got scrapped Fine china?