Random Lana Discussion Thread

[sadness is a butterfly]

5 minutes ago, Venice Peach said:

Yayyy. I've been watching him since he started NFR and I love him 

 

I love how he does one song for each video so he can go in depth and that he actually says interesting stuff and reads interviews and such for more context on each track and album 

I agree, he has helped me appreciate the songs even more. 

 

I may have shed a tear or two along with him in some of those NFR videos. 

[Sweet]

28 minutes ago, sadness is a butterfly said:

Has anyone been watching this guys reaction series? He did all of NFR and has moved on to COTCC. He goes pretty in depth and seems to legitimately love every single song. His style is great too, doesn’t pause too much, etc. A lot of the NFR series he did music videos and live performances too. 

 

I love his Lana content!

[Eugene]

33 minutes ago, sadness is a butterfly said:

Has anyone been watching this guys reaction series? He did all of NFR and has moved on to COTCC. He goes pretty in depth and seems to legitimately love every single song. His style is great too, doesn’t pause too much, etc. A lot of the NFR series he did music videos and live performances too. 

 

YES! I love his reactions. The way he analyzes songs and makes comments without talking nonsense. 

[hehitmeanditfeltlikeakis]

I wrote a short paper for my media course:

 

Lana Del Rey's "Ultraviolence" from her 2014 album has sparked a great deal of debate and criticism in recent years. Many people have accused the title track of romanticizing abuse and toxic relationships. However, as a music critic and a person with common sense, I strongly disagree with these accusations and believe that Lana Del Rey is one of the most talented and insightful songwriters of our time.

 

It's essential to understand the background behind "Ultraviolence." The song is a ballad that delves into the darker side of love and desire. Its lyrics depict a toxic relationship, but instead of celebrating it, they serve as a cautionary tale. They highlight the complexities and pain of love, warning listeners about the risks of unhealthy relationships. One of the most remarkable things about "Ultraviolence" is its musicality. Lana's haunting voice and atmospheric production create a spellbinding mood that's both captivating and ominous. The melody is straightforward but powerful, drawing the listener in and heightening the emotional impact of the lyrics. The result is a mesmerizing listening experience that's unique in contemporary music.

 

Additionally, Lana's song writing skills are on full display in "Ultraviolence." Her lyrics are carefully crafted to convey a specific message, and they succeed in doing so in a way that's both relatable and universal. She sings about a toxic relationship with raw honesty, capturing the confusion and pain that often accompany such relationships.

 

It's worth mentioning that the controversy surrounding "Ultraviolence" is part of a broader cultural conversation about the role of women in popular music. Some people have suggested that Lana's image and music are intentionally provocative, and that the controversy surrounding her work is an attempt to silence a strong female voice. This is a flawed perspective, and it fails to recognize the vital message that Lana is trying to communicate through her music.

 

In conclusion, "Ultraviolence" is a powerful and thought-provoking song that deserves to be recognized for its musical and lyrical brilliance. The allegations that it romanticizes abuse and toxic relationships are misguided, and they overlook the context and significance of the lyrics. "Ultraviolence" is a commentary on the complexities and dangers of love, and it showcases Lana's talents as a singer and songwriter.

[kraljicabenzinske]

i'm more shocked by the length of the essay in your profile section under "fan since"

[The Grants]

[Eugene]

is this the title of LDR10?

[PARADIXO]

7 minutes ago, kraljicabenzinske said:

i'm more shocked by the length of the essay in your profile section under "fan since"

 

[Mer]

Is this for a college course? 

[Yosemite]

[Violets in Your Eyes]

19 hours ago, sadness is a butterfly said:

Some folks were talking about The Trio single cover art (and how bad it was). I wasn’t quite as *involved* back then and i couldn’t find it, or don’t know what I’m looking for. Could someone share it?

 

 

Maybe they were talking about the Blue Banisters/Textbook/Wildflower Wildfire triple release

[Mer]

4 minutes ago, margaret soty said:

is this the title of LDR10?

 

This is the draft of the announcement 

[Mer]

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[West Coast]

You know people are bored and desperate for new music when they bring up decade old drama/criticism 

[Super Movie]

1 minute ago, Mer said:

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If you told me this was posted in May of 2020 on Lana's IG I'd honestly believe you

[CinnamonOnMyTeeth]

this is really good! you’re very talented!!! 

[Deleted Member]

16 minutes ago, Mer said:

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i didn’t realize there was a typewriter font on here… oh i am about to abuse this so much

[The Siren]

1 hour ago, Mer said:

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okay yall lets not poke fun at the OP

[kraljicabenzinske]

i'm an english graduate so imma give you a few pointers on academic writing (i can't sleep and got nothing better to do)

i'm writing this to genuinely help you with your course, not to make fun of you or anything

58 minutes ago, hehitmeanditfeltlikeakis said:

 Many people have accused the title track

who? name a media outlet or a critic who has accused the title track; if your essay is based on opposing these allegations, you must be more clear on who has made these allegations and for which reason. "many people" doesn't tell the reader anything. you need specific examples (which is the reoccurring issue in the essay)

1 hour ago, hehitmeanditfeltlikeakis said:

However, as a music critic and a person with common sense

absolutely not. your argument in an essay cannot be that you have common sense. delete. your viewpoint needs to be supported by factual arguments and evidence, it can't be "just trust me bro"

1 hour ago, hehitmeanditfeltlikeakis said:

It's essential to understand the background behind "Ultraviolence."

i love how you say this and then proceed to provide no background for the song at all the background would provide us with info about the era of her career and the topics she dealt with at that time of the song release, other related media such as the song's music video and other songs from the album and her opus that are correlated to lana's songwriting in Ultraviolence, and then more specific who is she singing about in the song etc.

1 hour ago, hehitmeanditfeltlikeakis said:

 Its lyrics depict a toxic relationship, but instead of celebrating it, they serve as a cautionary tale. They highlight the complexities and pain of love, warning listeners about the risks of unhealthy relationships.

you cannot analyze a lyrics and not provide any examples. You should have copied a few lines and said "in this line it's evident that she' talking about this and that." you need to imagine that this is going to be read by someone who never heard the song so all this would mean nothing to an average reader (and that's one of the important aspects of academic writing when it comes to topics like this - you always have to assume the reader does not know anything about the matter, in other words, you need to spell everything out and be as specific as possible) . For example, Lana Del Rey opens the song by saying that her lover used to call her a deadly nightshade. This implies this and that (and in this part you argue how this line supports you view)... I know this sound very dumbed-down, but this is an academic way of presenting information. evidence (example) spelled out + analysis

the part with "they serve as a cautionary tale" is very interesting and i wish you actually showed us how exactly and in which lines is the song a cautionary tale. that would have been an amazing argument, i love the expression cautionary tale, great job with that

1 hour ago, hehitmeanditfeltlikeakis said:

 Her lyrics are carefully crafted to convey a specific message

 

the vital message that Lana is trying to communicate through her music.

 

girl what is the message? you mention it twice and you're defending the message without even telling us what is the message of the song

 

1 hour ago, hehitmeanditfeltlikeakis said:

 The allegations that it romanticizes abuse and toxic relationships are misguided, and they overlook the context and significance of the lyrics

you could have gone so much deeper into explaining how does the song not romanticize abuse and toxic relationships. even to me it's unclear how exactly how argued that it does not. because you basically expressed you general opinion and the feeling you get when you listen to the song, but you didn't make any strong arguments. in which part of the song or in which line can we see that Lana's not romanticizing abuse? How can you prove that she's singing from a perspective of someone who's aware of the danger of toxic love and not from the perspective of someone who's lost in it or enjoying it?

1 hour ago, hehitmeanditfeltlikeakis said:

 and it showcases Lana's talents as a singer and songwriter.

no shade to lana, but how? again, you need to prove this. how does the lyrical style show her talent? what lyrical devices did she use? what words or lines can be felt strongly by the listener and why? what about storytelling?

 

in conclusion, you have a great way with words and it all looks nice. I have zero notes for the language and writing style, A+  for that. however, the content is an issue. you need to be so much more specific. provide examples, have clear arguments, go into depth and take us there. your essay is very very general, very subjective, and it doesn't say too much of something specific and it doesn't really help the reader learn something new or make him/her think about the topic

[anwdelrey]

“As a music critic and a person with common sense” KDJDJKSDJFR