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  1. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    It's really best to accept that every Lana x Rick song had tons of versions and we will never hear 95% of them 
     
    yes
  2. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    It's not the final, but yes it was always for UV
  3. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Hollywood and Angels Forever 
  4. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Yes that's something that I personally do myself while sorting stuff in my library.
    For example, Lana and Greg would always call MPG just "Money Power Glory", however the Dan demo that leaked was strictly called Money & Power (same with Fuck My Way) so I do have it saved as Money & Power (Demo) to keep it accurate. Keep in my though that sometimes title changes of that sort may just be done to ease communication. I'm sure that every demo/file/mention of Tunnel wasn't called "Did you know that there is a tunnel under ocean blvd v2", they would just do "Tunnel" or "Tunnel Under Ocean Boulevard" etc. That doesn't have to mean the song was called that in its version, it was just faster to type it.
    Nope
  5. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Never heard of this
  6. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    No, this thread is something to keep your mind occupied in the wait for the new album since Lana is pretty silent and I won't be revealing anything more for now
  7. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    La Who Am I To Love You 
     
    I never even heard all those LFL outtakes, I just know.. a lot about them
  8. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Some people use them interchangeably, but to put it simply - mixing happens when the song is being worked on, it's a part of the process when everything for the song is recorded, but you keep polishing it, levelling the sound and such. Mastering is putting very final adjustments to prepare the song for distribution on various media since they all have their own requirements. Mastering is more of a technical thing and only something required for stuff that is being released.
     
    That's why I said the UV Patrick demos are poorly mixed. The vocals are too drowned in the instrumental sometimes, some stems sound too out of place, there is lack of cohesion throughout.
  9. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Btw about that, this was rather a fact than a personal opinion. It was a scruffy demo made in a day whilst there are many songs that were being worked on for months in 2016 and ended up being unused
  10. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Omg sorry again, I meant White Mustang. Piecing all that info is really tiring, my head is exploding today. I think I will stop at least for now
  11. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    This is something I'd gladly discuss, but it would be mostly speculations mixed with facts.
     
    Rich Lee was commissioned to direct music videos for 2 first singles of LFL - Love and The Next Best American Record. Love was obviously done first and sometime in late 2016/early 2017, before BAR video was recorded, someone must have either hacked or scammed Rich obtaining Love music video as well as reference audio for the BAR music video. This led to both spreading and leaking causing massive drama behind the scenes and ultimately scrapping BAR as a whole. We are "lucky" they only leaked this late, cause who knows if that happened earlier Lana might have never recorded the MV at all.
     
    There is however the other side/reason to it that might be even stronger imo. The original TNBAR version is clearly shady and putting a lot of guilt on Barrie for the fall of their relationship. I feel like later at that time she came to realization that she might have been too hard on him - or even more, perhaps they happened to meet/talk and become friends on good terms again. The BAR video was built fully around the lyrics of the demo so when she realized she definitely wouldn't release that song without changing its narrative, the music video must be discarded. Since it was a really good visual that Lana loved and it would be a waste to just scrap it, they reused it for White Mustang. But yes, the full video was ready to be put out for The Next Best American Record.
     
    This also might be one of the reasons for other LFL tracklist changes, but I don't know that.
     
  12. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Exactly, people stop plotting and harassing people who even Lana left in the past
  13. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    LFL is the era when Rick and Lana made, by far, the most songs together. But none of that is truly even known, let alone leaked, outside of LFL demo.
    If something notable leaks from that time one day, I will talk about it then. For now LFL questions are kinda off the table.
     
    Serene Queen or Sugary Sweet are just roughest of roughest concepts, bottom shelf of the massive material she made for that album.
  14. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    No idts
     
    The final I Can Fly was already produced by Rick though, he was the only one to ever work on it, it wasn't even 'reworked', they just kept working on it to make it better
  15. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Never heard of it
     
    This doesn't ring a bell right now either
  16. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Literally, just few rough demos they made in a week or two. I don't even remember if there are any others left beyond what's released/leaked
  17. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    All the UV tracks demos you have from Honeymoun are produced by Dan Auerbath from early 2014
  18. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Everything done with LIB beyond its writing in 2012 was only in consideration for the movie/soundtrack release, not any of her albums
  19. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    There probably is more, but I don't recall right now. This also isn't really Lana's team's doing, it's producers/co-writers of those songs after they get discarded by Lana
  20. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    The snippet of LA Who Am I to love is some odd 2018 remake of a LFL era track
  21. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    “Cali is hot” snippet is from 2016
  22. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    No, all HM songs first begun as Rick x Lana sessions, everything that has any involvement from other people is them joining as the song progresses in production
     
    Also keep in mind that certain titles are not really attached to any particular versions. Throughout Lana's career most "demo" titles are used interchangeably till the very last minute when she decides on one.
  23. Bereaved By You liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Yes I can agree with that, I'm just showing that he remains someone who isn't actively involved with these songs. Notice how I mentioned the Something Real fiasco happening later on, this very much means he was not even talking to Rick outside of his invoiced requests to even know what they were actually working on if he didn't realize the email was fake and they actually aren't working on YTH/YG/FC at all.
     
    They are still notable versions until real Rick demos leak at least
  24. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    Yes, I don't remember exact dates, but all the HM demos that leaked around the same time can be considered STINT demos
  25. poetic jess liked a post in a topic by BlackoutZone in LDR Album Process Discussion   
    This debatable, it's whatever perspective you want to take on this. Patrick Warren is someone who gets commissioned by Rick to record - let's say Keys and Strings that gonna sound like this and that. Patrick records them and puts them in a form of stems, then sends back to Rick who is doing with those parts whatever he wants without Patrick's further involvement. Patrick producing these demos is nearly an equivalent of you right now DMing random producer who advertises themselves online, sending them acapella/unfinished demo and paying them for laying new production however they imagine.
    The redeeming part of this is that Patrick seemingly had partial stems of the real Rick Nowels produced track so these pieces of sounds are real. I won't dwell into that further, take that as you want. For now these are the only leaked versions anyway so it's not like there is any other option than appreciating them as they are.
     
    But yes, what Patrick himself created that can be acceptable is this:
     
    This however is just straight up fake made by some Lana fan based on what leaked/was shared:
     
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