Cloudbusting

6:02 for chorus Nice concept! The videos are very relaxing. I'll need this person to make one for the last three tracks on LFL.

This is... interesting. Sounds like something out of a fantasy movie

Lmao I really wasn't, i just thought it was worth to share the comment in another discussion thread for this topic. There are some problems with this comment, things we can't really agree with, like: "Naturally, he started committing more serious crime such as rape, pimping, theft and fraud." I mean, even if you grow up in a fucked up environment you just don't do those things. Also apparently some/most of the "facts" about Manson's childhood in the comment were wrong, because he lied about his life. I think what OP was trying to say is that evilness doesn't come from nowhere, that probably Manson was born as a normal person but then he turned into a corrupt and evil person due to his mental problems or whatever it was that made him that way (without saying that this is a reason for apologizing his actions), a topic that really grabs the attention of a lot of people. Let's hope that his death brings some peace to his victims' families.

1. RoCtab, not rocKtab2. Calm the fuck down 3. Interesting because I thought it was a good read. 4. The point of a thread is discussion, it’s good to see a topic from different perspectives, even if you don’t agree. 5. No one said he didn’t do it and no one said Manson is not a monster wtf. And yes dude, we all agree that he’s a monster and we all agree that he did it, and we all agree that he should rot in hell, in case that wasn’t clear

An interesting comment I found (I’ll include the link if you want to read the whole thread https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/7e6myv/comment/dq2yki9?st=JA8FU2UD&sh=07f9abf7) I am far from a Manson apologist, but the guy was pretty doomed for a life of crime, mayhem and violence since birth. I suggest listening to the series about him on Last Podcast On The Left. It really paints a three dimensional portrait of the guy. He was born to a 16 year old sex worker, spent his childhood in a brothel. After that, he was sent to live with an his abusive religious aunt and her sadistic uncle and was systematically abused. He was berated for being a "sissy" and forced to wear girls clothes to his first day of school. After being passed back to his mother, she was terribly neglectful, famously selling the young boy for a pitcher of beer. He had a lonely childhood and was surrounded by crime, so naturally he began to partake in criminal activity himself, landing him in a reform school at the age of nine. He spent the next few years in and out of these types of schools, homes, and often prisions, and they were NOT healthy environments. It was at these reform schools where he was raped and beat by the fellow children while the adults in charge turned a blind eye and often encouraged it. When he tried to reconnect with his mother, she wanted nothing to do with him. Naturally, he started committing more serious crime such as rape, pimping, theft and fraud. This led him to spending most of his life in prison, effectively missing the free love hippie movement, and i'd speculate he was completely shocked when he was released from prison in '67 to see that the world was so much different than the 50's. Manson was sick, and those poor people would not have been murdered if it wasn't for him. He was an insane dude who somehow had a following of loyalists who were taking way too many drugs, listening a little too intently to the White Album, and were way too susceptible to the toxic environment that Manson and others had created on that ranch out in the desert. Manson's life was fascinating and tragic. He didn't stand a chance of being a normal person given the way he grew up, he could have tried to clean up his act, but his criminal tendencies seemed to ingrained into him as a person, so he doubled down on the evilness inside him. Things people don't usually know about Manson. - He was a short dude. 5'0'' if I am not mistaken. - He was a decent songwriter. He wrote a tune for the Beach Boys and was a "friend" of Dennis Wilson. [Here is one of my favorite Manson tunes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpx4ODP35VQ). - He was married at some point and [looked like a normal dude](https://brenfrie.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/manson28n-2-web.jpg). - His main objective out in the desert with his cult was to manufacture dune buggies and sell them. I wonder what could have been done to stop this man from co-opting the hippie commune movement and turning it into a dangerous cult. What do we do with people like Manson? I hope we have ways of helping children who are born into dangerous and criminal lives now. I don't mourn the loss of Manson. I mourn the loss of the person he could have been under different circumstances. I admire his music. He was a talented songwriter. He had a way with words. Look them up, they are quite good. What a wasted life. What a tragedy his darkness had a hand in the gruesome deaths of innocent people. Rest in peace Sharon Tate and her unborn baby. Rest in peace Abigail Folger. Rest in peace Leno and Rosemary LaBianca. Rest in peace Wojciech Frykowski. Rest in peace Steven Parent. Rest in peace Donald Shea. Rest in peace Gary Hinman. Make no mistake, Manson was a monster, but it was the way we used to treat (and possibly continue to treat) the disenfranchised people on the fringes of society that had a major part in creating that monster. The crazy motherfucker said it best: "My father is the jailhouse. My father is your system... I am only what you made me. I am only a reflection of you".

I don’t think it’s a demo. It does sound different but it’s probably because of the low quality (which makes the song sound... darker?). Well it kinda is an earlier version since the swearing is not there but that’s it.

I literally don't know who is this but a girl named Rachel Platter talked about how her song "Collide" was inspired by Lana (can't really hear the influence though?) anyway, she still said that she was inspired by her

That would be a cruel, cruel twist of events But don't jinx it, I still hope it will be able to scalp me. At least we know Roses Bloom For God is indeed good.

Wait... even if the crowds ask for it, we all know she’ll only sing that “we did it for fun, we did it for free...” part acapella while all the unstable people keep screaming while she sings it (again)

Maybe if we ask the Brazilian stans to do it... I’m sure that particular crowd can get the job done.

Deleting gifs from my previous posts can help right? I'll do that if that can help to make the site faster

LMAO okay I think this could be stressful for other members to see... let's just establish that taste is subjective and let this die already Edit: lmao forget this post

Except I don't "stan" Coachella? Anyway, not the three of us making the 70% of the page's posts... again On another note, look at these reddit people complaining about Lana's "fake" signatures https://www.reddit.com/r/lanadelrey/comments/7dnayf/lana_did_not_sign_this/

Honey we're not discussing taste with TNC haters or marina stans

^ T R A G I C

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial " Denial, in ordinary English usage, is asserting that a statement or allegation is not true. A psychological defense mechanism postulated by psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence."

Common sense?

In all fairness this tea is common sense

Well I don't care about Smarty at all, but saying that Flopita is better than Million Dollar God... yikes! Now that I've had time to process the album (4 months), I think I can rank the albums in my personal order: UV > HM = LFL > BTD > Paradise. I love all of them, though AKA is probably at the same place as BTD tbh.

Best American Record

I said what I said

Gurl Brite Lites is shit compared to any song on AKA and Lolita is not that good compared to any song on BTD. They could be enjoyable but not as good as the rest of their respective albums. Same with Coachella.

Lol I'm serious, I do enjoy every Lana song tbh. Even Brite Lites and Lolita. I'm a happy stan. Or maybe i'm saying all of this because i'm beyond drunk but that's off topic Anyways, here's a friendly reminder that Heroin is the best song on the alboom and Cherry is nothing compared to it <3

Coachella... the instrumental is pretty basic, it reminds me of GarageBand. And leaving "Critics can be so mean sometimes" aside, I don't think it's bad. Actually, if I'm honest, I played it a lot when it was released because I considered Coachella as a new kind of sound for Lana (also I was desperate for a new song of LFL lmao). Even if I don't think it's terrible, I do think it's not very good if we compare it to any of the other 15 songs on LFL.

HM and UV only have her doing nothing. Maybe a combination of the two; the video could feature vintage footage of whatever + Lana dancing, idk