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Now I am really thinking about selling my Berlin tickets I don't need to see the LA to the moon tour again, especially not with a three hour ride to the venue on a monday. I guess it's not likely that she changes the setlist/ makes it longer/ changes the performances for Europe. Bummer.

I also don't think that the M tattoo is for her grandma. The other day I thought about this thread and the one post suggesting the M could also be a W. Personally I don't think it's a W, but this pic of Lana at the Wildwood Boardwalk, NJ, came to my mind. https://imgur.com/P3s9zLQ The big W in the background just caught my eye and how similar her tattoo, upside down, and the letter look - with the first tip of the W being big and round and the second being more sharp and pointy. I hope this makes sense to you, I'm tired and English is not my native language

I voted for I kinda want to know everything. I just love how she mixes observations of her surroundings with her own experiences and pure imagination and how she creates whole worlds out of it (at least that's what I like to believe). I'm convinced that not all of her songs and lyrics are 100% autobiographical (I can't picture her as a stripper, drug addict and killer ) so I'm interested in finding out what might be either fiction or truth.

Norman fucking Rockwell - 21 (+) Mariners Apartment Complex - 20 Venice Bitch - 24 California - 19 (-) Bartender - 60

I love the Barrie theories from you guys, especially the Venice Bitch one. I just found a few more lines that screamed Barrie to me. Fear fun, fear love Fresh out of fucks, forever Tryin' to be stronger for you Ice cream, ice queen I dream in jeans and leather Life's dream, I'm sweet for you Could reference Barries depression, maybe him beeing afraid of fun and love or thinking he does not deserve those feelings. Also her trying to be there for him and be the strong one he can lean on. Give me Hallmark One dream, one life, one lover Paint me happy and blue Blue as the synonym of their relationship - he made her happy but at the same time pulled her down with his own inner darkness and made her feel blue. From NFR I think we definitely can add California to the Barrie Songs as the Barrie anthem. In addition these lines from FIILY So I moved to California, but it's just a state of mind It turns out everywhere you go, you take yourself, that's not a lie Wish that you would hold me or just say that you were mine It's killing me slowly You moved to California, but it's just a state of mind And you know everyone adores you You can't feel it and you're tired Baby, wish that you would hold me or just say that you were mine But it's killing me slowly give me Lana/Barrie vibes. They both moved to California but they also took their personal problems with them. Also Lana telling Barrie that he is fine and loved the way he is; but him not beeing able to see that.

I hate to say that but I think the song is terrible. It still sounds to me like an ice cream truck on drugs The video made me cringe, it looks so wrong to see the three together - it's just not working for me. Lana looks so grown up and classy compared to Miley and Ariana, it's just wrong on so many levels. I'll pretend that that song does not exist And am I the only one who is scared by Mileys eye make up?

Norman fucking Rockwell - 22 Mariners Apartment Complex - 19 Venice Bitch - 21 (-) Cinnamon Girl - 9 California - 20 The greatest - 18 (+) Bartender - 34

Norman fucking Rockwell - 22 Mariners Apartment Complex - 20 Venice Bitch - 21 Cinnamon Girl - 15 California - 20 (-1) The Greatest - 17 Bartender - 27 (+1)

It sounds like an ice cream truck to me

I saw her in 2013 in Hamburg and last year in Berlin and I was kind of disappointed after the show, to say the least. The difference was huge in my opinion. I remember her singing Heart Shaped Box in 2013 and the goosebumps I had . I do understand that she is afraid of not hitting the notes but not even trying anymore is a let down for me. And I guess that the more afraid she is, the more difficult it gets to hit the notes. Like you all said before, maybe a vocal coach would be helpful, showing her techniques or taking away the fear. Because I don't think it's because of pure laziness that she doesn't sing that much anymore. The positive surprise for me was her singing Yayo - only her and her guitar, which felt very intimate and real to me. I really liked the little medley, too. After a lot of thinking I bought tickets for her show next year in Berlin - I'll go there without expectations so that I won't be disappointed again. But I do pray for a live performance of Shades of Cool

Oh my, reading this thread I just realised that I have a weird music taste. It's basically Lana and a handful of metal/rock bands like Rammstein, Disturbed, Metallica, Trivium and so on

Well, authors, songwriters, poets, or whatever actually do write using the first person perspective and the texts are not about their personal life. So I still think that lines in songs can be about other people - using first person perspective. And I didn't say that the whole song is not about her because I do believe the verses are defo about her. In the lyrics she also adresses someone else: You moved to California, but it’s just a state of mind And you know everyone who does it You can't feel it and you’re tired At last it was just a thought that came to me reading the interview.

I just read the new NME interview where she mentions that Fuck it I love you is her most dishonest song. One song on ‘Norman Fucking Rockwell!’ might make you think west coast life isn’t the cure-all people make it out to be though. On ‘Fuck It, I Love You’, she sighs, “I moved to California but it’s just a state of mind/Turns out everywhere you go, you take yourself/That’s not a lie,” as if expectations of a mental glow-up post-relocation were not met. Instead, she describes it as her “most dishonest song”, sung as if it’s about herself when it’s actually about a friend. I could imagine that those lines might be about Barrie/ from Barries POV. He never felt 100% at home in California and took his depression with him where ever he went. But maybe it's just my mind that wants to see Barrie references everywhere.