Miguel3Zero

A few months ago when Lana was in Fashion mag she was being called " stick insect " in another forum. I think a lot of people underestimate her. When doing fashion shots she has no problem losing weight to get the "right" body type for that. Now think of a stripper in a small town strip joint. For me Lana's having the right body at the moment to impersonate one. Also chola, I think the gang members in LA likes curvy women. She adjusts her appearance in a great. almost Hollywood way.

A few months ago when Lana was in Fashion mag she was being called " stick insect " in another forum. I think a lot of people underestimate her. When doing fashion shots she has no problem losing weight to get the "right" body type for that. Now think of a stripper in a small town strip joint. For me Lana's having the right body at the moment to impersonate one. Also chola, I think the gang members in LA likes curvy women. She adjusts her appearance in a great. almost Hollywood way.

A few months ago when Lana was in Fashion mag she was being called " stick insect " in another forum. I think a lot of people underestimate her. When doing fashion shots she has no problem losing weight to get the "right" body type for that. Now think of a stripper in a small town strip joint. For me Lana's having the right body at the moment to impersonate one. Also chola, I think the gang members in LA likes curvy women. She adjusts her appearance in a great. almost Hollywood way.

A few months ago when Lana was in Fashion mag she was being called " stick insect " in another forum. I think a lot of people underestimate her. When doing fashion shots she has no problem losing weight to get the "right" body type for that. Now think of a stripper in a small town strip joint. For me Lana's having the right body at the moment to impersonate one. Also chola, I think the gang members in LA likes curvy women. She adjusts her appearance in a great. almost Hollywood way.

A few months ago when Lana was in Fashion mag she was being called " stick insect " in another forum. I think a lot of people underestimate her. When doing fashion shots she has no problem losing weight to get the "right" body type for that. Now think of a stripper in a small town strip joint. For me Lana's having the right body at the moment to impersonate one. Also chola, I think the gang members in LA likes curvy women. She adjusts her appearance in a great. almost Hollywood way.

A few months ago when Lana was in Fashion mag she was being called " stick insect " in another forum. I think a lot of people underestimate her. When doing fashion shots she has no problem losing weight to get the "right" body type for that. Now think of a stripper in a small town strip joint. For me Lana's having the right body at the moment to impersonate one. Also chola, I think the gang members in LA likes curvy women. She adjusts her appearance in a great. almost Hollywood way.

My beautiful bad girl:

 
 
 

@@Trash Magic
 

You do have an unhealthy love/hate relationship with LDR. As I've said before it's ok by me. But please open your eyes LDR is slim. Don't try to make normal women ashamed over having curves.

Pissed on those fake rumours around tropico
Pissed on those haters saying she looks awful and fat
Pissed on those photos from the set that are making me feel super excited 
 
 
         

A retweet is neither a denial or affirmation. But it does make one wonder what to think, and it's interesting that the person who originally tweeted about LDR (or was it his friend that blogged about it?) ultimately puts positive spin on LDR's retweet. 
 
"Lolita" by Nabokov is an important work in LDR's mind, so many have said, so in order to understand her I read the book a few months ago. I still don't know if Nabokov was ever accused of being pro-pedophilia for having written that book. Without giving away plot details, the Lolita character does seem to be more mature than her years and seems aware and manipulative of the pedophile's character. I'd really like to know when LDR read the book, but I'm guessing it may have been after her "boarding-school" days, and perhaps her experiences there are why the book resonated with her. Not trying to over-analyze her (but what else am I supposed to do here?).
 
Then there is "Lolita", her song. Having reviewed the lyrics (by listening and with directlyrics, I bought Lolita as an MP3), the song's perspective is of a younger *girl* who obviously has a strong effect on *boys* her own age, which implies to me that she's not a girl but a woman at this point. "Off to the Races" I do have the lyrics to. There is an obvious shout out to Nabokov ("light of my life, fire of my loins"), but the rest of the song also seems to be about a younger *woman* (with a Las Vegas past), not an under-aged kid.  Are there songs from AKA more dubious than these? Maybe, but I'd hardly say the Lolita thing with her strongly suggests under-aged sex.

You do have an unhealthy love/hate relationship with LDR. As I've said before it's ok by me. But please open your eyes LDR is slim. Don't try to make normal women ashamed over having curves.

Is it bad that I think Lanas weight gain suits her really well?

A dream come true for her fans; Lana in a bikini, and looking fab

chunky? you seeing the same woman i'm seeing? i don't know very many women with flat stomachs, especially in your late 20s lol. i love her body 

Dat Lana Impact

i can just imagine her going 'nice tattoo btw' and adele becoming very uncomfortable...haha! 

Nope, you are not.

As long as Lana keeps writing and recording great music, I'm happy.  I can't believe some of the things I've read in this thread; it's like a few members forgot Lana is the very same gal who recorded as May Jailer with a southern accent.  She sings with a strong New York accent on many songs, yet when she talks I've heard it disappear.  She doesn't mind playing a role, plus she has always been a little testy when interviewers skew towards her personal life, especially her past.  Her idols are Kurt Cobain and Jim Morrison; think about that for a second...
 
I don't care if she is the sweetest girl or the biggest bitch on the planet, I just love her music.  I also want to see her in concert in America, and she needs fans here to book concerts.  I think if we love her for her singing and songwriting, she will love us back for it and book some concerts around the country.  We don't want her to think her fans are so shallow they would dump her because she caught an interview with someone who wanted to concentrate on everything imaginable except for her amazingly successful European tour, huge album sales, and writing the words and music that made it all possible.  Instead, the interviewer provoked her with questions about patriotism, politics, feminism, and her personal life.  Lana responded to her with what seemed to be mostly a barrage of bullshit.  Fine with me.

It has already. 
 
It sold 3.4m last year (confirmed by IFPI) and accumulated 603k sales "points" on mediatraffic until it fell off the chart at the end of March. (The first post on this thread is missing points from week 13.)
 
Given that mediatraffic underestimated the album's sales last year (they had 2.9m instead of 3.4), it's pretty much a given that BTD passed 4 million sales at least a couple weeks ago. 

i hope that i'm not stressing people out. it seems as if i like to talk about things people don't always seem to be comfortable talking about. the "underbelly" of humanity, i suppose you could say. its interesting, but can get a bit draining i realize. so please don't take what i'm saying too seriously -- these are merely my own observations and attempts at understanding her peculiar behavior, and why she lies and acts out in the way(s) she does. and its nice to generate discussion on lana in a more theoretical sense i guess =p 
 
i think we should revive @@Moniker's thread about whether or not she'd be as loved if she weren't so beautiful. because i also wonder -- would she be as crazy if she weren't so beautiful? so histrionic (re: lip licking)? so vain and narcissistic (re: lyrics)? so paranoid and pessimistic (~anti me)? i kind of feel like the root of her insecurities / neuroses / eccentricities stem from the seemingly vast disconnect between her outer appearance and her inner world -- and the resulting disconnect between the way people perceive her and the way she actually is. i think this interviewer puts it best: 
 
"she is capable of shifting swiftly from a kind of coltish innocence (*2) to vampish knowingness (*1). It’s a quality that is hard to pin down ... a kind of doubleness, a sense of duality and merging contradictions. She is a person into whom you can read a lot."
 
(1) -- at 2:20 ... after the guy 'woops' at her, notice that knowing little "ha" she does. it didn't require any thought, and it barely phased her. it was rapid, like a reflex. she knows what she does to people -- men in particular 
 

 
(2) on the other hand ... if you listen (to the interview below) from the beginning you sense that their interaction is full of sexual tension. not surprising since she's cooing more so than speaking. he's pretty forward at one point, asking if she ever takes people back to her room after shows or something (1:50) and lana like, yelps in surprise lmao. but then a few minutes later... he's like, oh, well i love the visuals and the palm trees on stage; so much so that i spent an entire song watching the screen instead of you (5:45). she's like ... oh, yea, yea, ok, blah, sonically, blah ... its good that they're there cause ... it... they... uh... [sad voice] you can look at them instead [/sad voice] 
 
http://www.novafm.com.au/video/tim-blackwell-interviews-lana-del-rey
 
so on the one hand she's a true fucking vixen, on the other she's like a fragile ceramic doll. she needs to be loved, admired, adored. at the very least, she wants your eyes to be on her, it seems. how do you reconcile those two characters (jessica rabbit vs. dolores haze) into one person? i mean, i honestly believe that those are both parts of her true personality, and not some character that she puts on. but like i said before -- how must people in her everyday life perceive her? how do you trust that person when you can't understand or process their fundamental energy? if you notice, some of her lyrics are narcissistic praises of her own beauty right before she tosses some acid in 
 
 
 
 
a large portion of her lyrics are heavily rooted in her beauty and how others perceive her beauty. it kind of shows how powerful / sickly pervasive that aspect must be in her life. on the one hand, its why some people are so drawn to her. on the other, its why some people are so repelled by her. its not like she has some obnoxious personality -- she's usually pulled back and rather reserved in her demeanor. so its like, how do you deal with that kind of hate? having a genuine ~anti me perspective? no wonder she seems bipolar -- adoring and grateful with fans when she's being admired vs. arrogant, elitist, and pessimistic when she's being criticized. on the one hand, she has to wonder: do people -love- me for my talent or my beauty? will they still love me...? or, do people -hate- me because of my beauty, in spite of my talents? (this has definitely been the case, especially in the beginning of her career)... she must wonder -- if they don't acknowledge my singing or songwriting, is it because they can't look past my face? or is because i don't even have talent? this might sound reductive, or shallow even, but i think there's a bit of truth along these lines. because like i said before, people seem to be ruled by their emotions and their emotions are rarely fueled or supplemented by logic. and nothing can surpass your brain and hit you in the stomach (or nads) faster than a beautiful person. and sadly, beauty tends to garner a disproportionate amount of interest (both positive and negative), and that happens to be a culturally / temporally transcendent fact
 
all i'm saying is, it must be stressful to draw such vitriol from people for no reason other than how you look. it must be painful and irritating to have your talents refuted for reasons other than an actual lack of talent. i feel like she has to downplay her focus on looks because people will automatically deem her to be superficial. there are lots of things she has to be careful about doing or saying -- because like the interviewer says; she's the type of person you can read a lot into. people are going to be quicker with their snap judgements. and if you're uninformed or unfamiliar with her or any of her work, you're likely to hold a very wrong opinion
 
TL;DR -- beauty spurs a wide range of emotions in people. can it play a negative role in a person's development? distort perceptions of themselves and the world around them? fragment your personality? am i stressing people out?

It was a busy week full of work for me so I finally had some time now to read the interview.
First I've read some of the reactions here before reading the interview and I was already thinking like "omg what's all this and I still have to read the interview".
And I'm sorry but after reading the interview I wasn't shocked at all and I like Lana as much as before. But I was shocked by some reactions here tbh. Interesting on the other side also. Actually it's amazing how many and different reactions this interview causes here.
I don't know Lana/Lizzy good enough as a person so I don't have the right to judge her. She maybe has her strange side but we all have that in some kind of way. Every person is different but speculating about her mental situation is a bridge to far for me.
I think it was also a bad timing for doing such an interview. When I looked at the pictures of her latest arrivals at the airports during the last concerts, she looked tired. I can understand that she wasn't always interested in the questions. I would have same the problem.
Maybe she protects herself against the media when she feels the threat. Probably a normal reaction she kept after all the criticism she got in the beginning of her singing career. 
 
In the first place I'm interested in the songs that Lana makes. I admit that when there is an interview with her or an article about her, I will read it.
She's a beautiful young woman but I didn't know how she looked like when I heard her for the first time.
I have to say honestly that I never heard from her before Video Games was played for the first time on the radio here in Belgium.
But I still remember that Saturday afternoon when I was listening to the radio and suddenly Video Games began to play.
The song had immediately my attention and I was thinking "Omg, what a special song is that and I really want to know who that female singer is!"
I putted my ear on the radio at the end of the song to know who that was. Never done that before for any other female singer.
I really love her songs so much and I hope also that she releases a new album in the near future but I don't care if this new album will have the style of BTD or Paradise. I have a small preference for the Paradise-style but the most important thing is a new album and I will always admire her songs.
I hope also for the American people here that Lana makes a tour in America. But first she really needs some rest.
 
Maybe she had a bad day, was tired or heard some bad news that day. All this can influence an interview. Maybe the interviewer was unprofessional? Idk
And to Lana: when you have a winter day in your life or a war in your mind, I can tell you one thing: Just ride girl, just ride...

As a newbie I would just like to say that it's fricking fantastic to find a place like this where so many people care so much about Lana that they wanna discuss her even if it means that the debate gets a little heated.
 
Lana is like a beautiful clock. Showing the time is the primary function that makes us appreciate it, nothing will change that, but every now and then you might get curious how it looks on the inside, what makes it tick. So you open up the clock and starts poking around inside. And I guess that's what we're all trying to do here, open up Lana and poke around and I'm right now realizing how my metaphore is backfiring grossly. As we can't open up Lanas mind and get all the answers we try our best dissecting what she says and does,  and sometimes we find something that's not as pretty as we expected, and I think it's ok to talk about it. Of course there's a line where curiosity becomes way too scrutinizing, but that line differs from person to person, and so we get this heated debate. 
 
At the end of the day we still don't know Lana, but we're having a good discussion and we all love what she does.
 
And Lana? She's probably laughing all the way down to the bank right now so there's that. 

Different people, different concepts of intimacy, I guess, but I'd much sooner answer the brand of tampon question or some other equally silly and ultimately harmless "invasive" question than talk about my political affiliation or any other type of ideology with some journo - especially considering our increasingly PC-obsessed / easily offended society. Even more so if I were famous; my motto would definitely be "not here for the drama".