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I've had the same experience--48 hours ago, I listened to it over and over on a 10-mile walk around Brooklyn, and so didn't listen to it at all--except CN--over the last two days. Not that I'm afraid of wearing it out completely, because, as I've said, I still listen to BB and never tire of it (except the title track, which I don't care for).

Yeah, some, several, of the tracks on BTD and one or two on Paradise can be clearly seen for what they are now, quickly-written filler. OC is about as far from BTD as an album could get.

It seems very likely we'll get one before the album drops.

I feel the same way--so far. Looking forward to hearing it in HQ. It certainly doesn't drag the rest down for me.

The 'Sweet' melody sticks in my head more than any other from OC so far.

'Hate' is a prety strong word when you're directing it towards others.

Are they "haters"? Or do they just not like it much, or as much as you? I may have missed some hardcore hate for x VB here, but I haven't seen it.

If the vinyls are out there, why has CN not leaked? Surely someone with a copy must know how to make a LQ rip.

Got it. Good read.

Why do we think CN hasn't leaked? Is there a reason, or is it just random?

Fair enough; I think they missed a lot of the better parts of the album. What they didn't mention is how different musically OC is from everything else she's done. Thanks for posting.

I like IMF too, a lot.

I agree. These ballads, while amazing, are clearly more what people expect from her. The critics will love the new forms she’s working with.

I think she now realizes she doesn’t have to stick to standard forms, structures, and formats, a la ‘Arcadia,’ ‘Wild At Heart,’ or ‘LMLYLAW.’ She started experimenting with VB, and I think that’s her future for the time being. Obviously she’s done very well doing that here.

I think you will lose your wig. It’s spectacular and unprecedented in her catalog. It does ‘go forward,’ which many felt COCC and BB did not, but it goes sideways as well. It is really different from anything she’s done. It’s a new Lana.

Too much urbanization is the end of them.

I lived in North Miami Beach, which had plenty of toads at night, especially in rainy, humid weather, and also in Ormond Beach, where, at night, we would turn on the lights in the kitchen and there would be a handful of tree frogs clinging to the glass of the windows, with their white bellies forward and their green backs turned away from us. As you've probably heard, the 'wetlands' they need to survive are drying up in many areas, thus culling the population. In Ormond Beach, it used to be that, at night, you could barely sleep due to all the sounds the frogs and toads made at night.

I agree. So far, I don't see what they add.

YES, except for 'Candy Necklace.'