Vertimus

I love ‘Arcadia.’ Like so much of BB, it’s underrated. I’d take it any day over 9/10ths of OB.

Me neither. I still find it interesting that out of all her albums, OB brings the Grammy nod, though of course the Grammy nod could be somewhat cumulative.

Having listened to it on headphones, I do hear her voice upfront.

Maybe this was recorded in 2015 from the aborted Americana album and she's decided to drop it now.

Funny, because to me, say, compared to anything on Paradise, for example, her vocals sound way in the background, which I've also found on some of NFR! and most of OB. To my ear, it sounds like her vocals are just one part of the song, instead of the main part, which they should be , as I see it.

And what about her version of Summertime? Would that be on the Americana collection as well?

Exactly.

It sounds rushed, stripped down, flat, basic. As others have said, where is the instrumentation that made the original seem and feel sincere and of its time and place? She's singing the lyrics a la the classic John Denver version, but she's not singing it as if she means it or has experienced what she's saying. Where's the sense of loss, the passion, the relief of finally getting back to the place that she feels she belongs? Compare it to Buddy's Rendezvous, for example. Funny how on OB she says, "the WAYYYY JOHN DENVER SINGSSS" and she's doing the opposite here, no passion. It seems to me that this would drive away potential fans rather than create new ones. I hope we get the Americana | Classics album and soon, but I hope the rest is a little more fully realized and heartfelt than this.

There's a hilariously bad cover of CRTMH on Youtube purporting to be Lana. I found it very funny.

Yeah, there's nothing heinous about the song, especially from a singer who wrote 'American' and 'God Bless America.'

I'd love a good studio version of The Good Life. Being older than Lana, I when I think of American classics, I tend to think of music from the 1930s-1950s with jazz/blues overtones, like Skylark, My Funny Valentine, Last Night When We Were Young, and Lover Man, and Unchained Melody does come from the late 50s. I can't see Chelsea Hotel No. 2 fitting in with CRTMH and UM, but it depends what the album is called and what its focus is, especially as it was written by Leonard Cohen, a Canadian, making it not literally Americana. Though some might consider it a standard, but Cohen has so many songs that could be considered standards in the broad sense. I don't consider CHN2 a standard. It would be wonderful to have a double album of covers, maybe each disc having a different focus, one Americana and the other covers of all kinds. Imagine Lana doing Lilac Wine. That would be awesome. Or The Warmth of the Sun. In My Room, like Caroline No, is certainly a post-50s standard.

Thanks--I assume others are hearing it complete via New Zealand. Certainly it will leak sometime today, for better or worse?

Is it actually playable on Spotify right now? I see it but the play button is greyed out.

My thoughts exactly. It can't be a coincidence or accidental.

With Unchained Melody last night, another certified American classic, and now Country Roads, it certainly seems feasible that the covers album, with a country or Americana twist, is finally coming, as well as the recent magazine cover and interview.

I also prefer the other version of Thunder, what I call the 50s-style version, but I've just added it to the album in iTunes.

I agree. The interview was very weak even though we did learn a few things. I wouldn't even call it an interview. The fraud charge will probably live with her forever, as lazy journalists love to pick up an old charge or accusation, especially from the beginning of an artist's career, and repeat it. Poor Marianne Faithfull, now aged, has had to deal with the "voice of an angel with big tits" line that still gets repeated, even on the liner notes of her albums, or the charge that at the Rolling Stones Redlands bust in the second half of the 60s, she was found--get this--"naked, wrapped in a fur rug with a candy bar sticking out of her anus," which one of the Stones, presumably Mick, her boyfriend, was munching on when the police broke in. And we all know the urban legend about Rod Stewart, or Richard Gere and the gerbil. Very sad. Lana deserves better, but she's so nice, which journalists take as passive, that they keep repeating crap about her. Agreed.

We listen to Lana, we see her, we get her 100% without any effort. It's almost instantaneous. Her critics look at her, they listen to her, they can't grasp her in the least, and they embarrass themselves attempting to define what they do see. Look at narcissistic, fascist Anne Powers, complaining that Lana didn't carry herself the way Anne Powers believes she should as a female artist in the 21st century, didn't have the right political opinions, didn't have the correct vision and correct attitudes, as if Lana was Anne Powers, and not a completely different individual in her own right. Lana seems to have an unusually high level of people, especially in the critic class, that don't get her, but everyone who does get her loves her passionately. And the fact that Lana has a long string of dedicated admirers, some of whom are musical and creative legends—David Lynch, Joan Baez, Bruce Springsteen, Father John Misty, Courtney Love, the Weeknd, John Waters, Stevie Nicks—and they see and hear her, as we do, has to rankle. Obviously this has been a huge year for Lana; she won the war even if she lost a few battles.

The primary purpose of Violet is poetry, not music, and the music is 'background' music, as it was when poetry albums first came into being in the 50s, like those of Jack Kerouac and Kenneth Patchen. Sometimes there was a musical accompaniment, and sometimes not. There's a long history of such recordings. Carl Sandburg accompanied himself on guitar while he recited his work. If music were the primary purpose of Violet, then of course it would be one of Lana's music albums. That's how I see it.

I agree; in the past, say, in the 50s and 60s, poetry, with or without backing music, and spoken word 'albums' by people like Jack Kerouac, Edith Sitwell, or Carl Sandburg were considered albums. The same with comedy albums by Bob Newhart, Woody Allen, or Nichols & May, and in the 70s, Cheech & Chong and George Carlin. The problem is not whether a poetry album is an album or not, but simply distinguishing Lana's music albums from her poetry album(s). I think it's correct to say, if you're counting Paradise as an album, as I do, that Lana has 9 music albums, or just 'Lana has 9 albums, and 1 poetry album.'

A-men. It seems to me he's a critic's darling for all the wrong reasons; I don't think it has very much to do with his music or talent as a producer. But I like what he did on 'Solar Power.'

Thanks—got it.

Thanks.

Is the Serene Queen demo the so-called 'Village' Demo?

I also like Fishtail, it's definitely in my Top 3 from OB. The point I've made about it is that it sounds like the fraternal twin of TJF, and lately too many of Lana's songs sound like fraternal twins. In my experience, this is usually a sign of an artist in a period of decline.