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Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I almost wish she used the word ‘breasts’ instead of ‘chest.’ -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Visual taste. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
It kind of has a theatrical quality, no?, the new song? -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
‘Beautiful’ and ‘sensual’ need not be overtly sexy. This is the album art we’ve been waiting for. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
It was thoughtful of her to let us know this this evening, so those who were expecting the album tomorrow can exhale. Two big dogs: shades of The Hounds of Love! What do we think this song is called? -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
We didn't get any delay information on Christmas Day about the Americana album either. Did anyone figure out why Lanapedia has a date of, I think, August 24th or 25th? -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
For all we know, this 'delay' may give her the time and opportunity to re-conceive the entire album, as she did LFL, scrap the other half of the songs, and not release anything until late fall or winter of next year, with the final result being nothing like the 'revenge' album she initially conceived. At this point, considering how many 'political' songs she said she had recorded and left unused from LFL, and how quickly she composes in some cases, she might well have a bank of some 50 or more songs we've never heard and don't know even exist, and then there's everything new she's written and recorded....anything is possible with someone as fluid and mercurial as Lana, and perhaps indecisive too. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I personally hope she now leaves WW, BB and TB off the new album. We're heard them, we have them, and we're probably fairly acclimated to them now. I am. I'd rather hear completely new music. Especially if the album is relatively short in terms of tracks. The phrasing distracts me every time. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
The worst thing about this news is that 'adding new songs;' or in this case, perhaps just one new song, right at the end is kinda what fucked up LFL, via 'Coachella' and 'Change,' and perhaps others. I do like 'Change' overall, but it sounded rush-recorded, last-minute, underdeveloped, and her phrasing was off ("people are powerful beins'). Some or many of us are presumably creative individuals, and so understand that what you're working on at the present moment usually absorbs all your attention and enthusiasm, and in this, Lana is probably no different. But. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Look at her LFL tour: massive crowds everywhere. I agree 100%. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Most people who attempt to 'cancel' artists, celebrities and other public figures today are petty nobodies who want power, now that they've seen that they've achieved a modicum of it. They have little sense of psychology, history, the history of the Arts, or our American laws; nor do they have respect for any of those. They are motivated by that drive for power as well as their emotions and a false, inflated sense of self stemming from the fact that they lack a genuine sense of themselves as worthwhile. You're 100% correct about "the weird entitlement/ownership" some people adopt in relation to artists and others. We know a great deal about LDR but there's a massive continent of information that we don't know and never will. So we can make generalized statements--guesses, really--about why she might have taken this or that action, or more specific guesses based on specific things she's said or done publicly, but let's face, we're all a mystery to one another. Almost 60 years after her death, educated specialists in various fields are still trying to fathom the mind, life and actions of Marilyn Monroe. The same is true of Billie Holiday, James Dean, Sam Cooke, Elvis, Marvin Gaye, Jeff Buckley and still-living figures like Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan. It's okay to speculate, and fun, but everyone should keep in mind that few if any of us know LDR as a friend or acquaintance, which, if true, would probably give us a little more insight into who she is. But no one should be condemning or attempting to ostracize her, or destroy her career or back catalog. Humble yourself and realize all you don't know. Just yesterday an IG site played a clip of Lana and Jack in the studio, and the poster believed it proved the NFR! title track and 'Dark But Just A Game' were once the same song. Maybe it's true, I didn't see proof of that in the video presented. As Joni Mitchell said long ago in 'Sweet Bird'; change 'they' to 'we' or 'I.': No one knows They can never get that close Guesses at most Guesses based on what each set Of time and change is touching… -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
She's what, 36 now? She's a full, definite adult, chronologically speaking, and moving into, gulp, 'middle age.' That doesn't necessarily mean anything in terms of the kind of music she'll compose and record, but it might. Hasn't she said many times she wants children? If so, the time is pretty much now, biologically speaking. And a child, or children, might change her music and vision a great deal, or just a bit, or not at all. I think we'll have a lot of great music ahead, but I can't see a lot of 'bangers.' But, you never know. Time will tell. That's how I feel as well. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Could be. That's not how I remember it, as I've only used a few sources, but it's possible. I got a mess of songs via Honeymouns. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Honeymouns had posted links to 'Thunder' and 'Serene Queen,' among many others, on his IG before it got taken down. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Serene Queen, one of her very best unreleased. What a sound it has. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
If 'Thunder' is on the new album, great. I think it's one of her best unreleased tracks--the phrasing, the lyrics, the vocal intonations--everything is perfect as it is. If she's rerecorded it, I hope she doesn't otherwise change a thing. I'm another of those who feel that 'Best American Record' was completely ruined on NFR! If by chance she has altered 'Thunder' in ways I don't care for, I'll just replace the new version with the old. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I certainly agree with the UV comment--which is one that is seldom heard here. In addition to the standard UV, I've created my own version of UV called 'Ultra Violet,' which has all the deleted tracks plus Black Beauty, Old Money, West Coast, Cruel World, Is This Happiness and one or two others. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Since the advent of the 'album' itself as a kind of artistic statement (which some believe started in 1958 with Frank Sinatra's 'Frank Sinatra Sings For Only the Lonely') instead of just a loose collection of songs, musicians like the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Joni Mitchell, the Velvet Underground, and Bob Dylan have placed songs with purpose as the first track and last, and the order of all the others has often mattered (look at 'Abbey Road,' for an extreme example). Sometimes the songs tell a story of a kind, sometimes it's the way the songs sound that make a difference. From a commercial standpoint, the record companies in the 1970s always wanted a banger as the first track, something that would immediately catch the listener's attention--which is just common sense. Most of these ideas have continued right into 2021. R.E.M., Jeff Buckley, Tori Amos, Twenty-One Pilots, Amy Winehouse, Lord Huron, Father John Misty, Kaleo and others certainly pay a lot of attention to the order of the songs, as we know from interviews. But I agree with you, once I know what the artist's vision for the order was, I don't care much. I remove the track numbers and list them alphabetically in iTunes, and listen to them that way, or randomly on shuffle, or search for a certain track I want to hear. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I'd rather the three singles not be on the new album, or maybe not all three. We can always add them ourselves later if we feel they fit. I'd rather hear all-new music. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
It would be great if she's use that beautiful B&W selfie as the cover. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I saw her new IG posts--is there any hard news? -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
What is the truth, exactly. This may be complete misinformation or only partially correct--and if it's only partially correct, we really can't blame whoever is spilling all this, not when we're dealing (no pun intended) with LDR. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
LDR said Dealer was just her “screaming.” -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
Most of it is cowardly bullying, but it happens to most public figures today. No one is so Woke, so Liberal, so Free of Taint as to be spared from a mob attack. -
Blue Banisters - Pre-Pre-Release Thread
Vertimus replied to Elle's topic in Retired Pre-Release Threads
I'd also like to see some terrific album graphics, but I really think she's been spooked about them since UV. She doesn't have to look sexy or sensual, but there's no reason she cannot create some some beautiful and memorable cover art.