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I feel she's definitely got at 1 or 2 albums completed that she could drop, and probably 2 more she's working on or polishing. It makes no sense to let them pile up; it's not as if she's at the end of her career.

Oh boy. That's hilarious. What dedicated and needy little Stans we are. Thank you.

Is there any hard or hard-ish news? What's all this about?

I agree about what seems to be a little media teasing from Lana lately---is there a point, a purpose? If so, it can't just be for BR, which I am also fairly excited about. She's sitting on so many projects, it just doesn't make sense to not begin releasing them sooner or later this year, and she's in a good place in right now with the media, the public, and her fan base. The maturity shown on COCC and BB seem to have solidified her public position and finally impressed her critics that she's an adult and an artist, and not some kind of arrogant, anti-feminist hellion. Sadly, I also think that her more natural, relaxed physical appearance has pacified the envy of her critics (as if it were any of their business), though I'm sure these recent changes were certainly not motivated by that on her part.

I'm with you, 100%. I'm not at all excited about a collab with Nicki, and I still don't quite get what Lana herself, alone, means by 'country,' since she said she thought both 'Ride' and 'Wild At Heart' were country-esque or potentially so, perhaps if produced and arranged another way. But country as it exists today is, to me, country pop, and not at all appealing. To me, most of it is junk and has been for three decades. What used to be called 'country' 70 years ago and before, today I call '21st Century Americana,' as practiced by the Cactus Blossoms, early Dylan LeBlanc, the Brothers Comatose, early Secret Sisters, Great Peacock, the Yellow-Bellied Sap Suckers and others. I listen to a lot of '21st Century Americana.' I'm also hoping for LDR9 and the covers album, but she seems to be imbuing the project with Nikki the most right now, at least more so than the covers album. I would also like a bigger sound and something new-ish and unanticipated. I loved the sound of 'Serene Queen' and would like to see her move in that direction. I'd really like to know what the songs cut from BB sounded like.

Personally, I can't imagine Lana utilizing a "new sound" at this point in her career, at least not an entirely new sound. It's possible, of course. I doubt she'll 'go commercial' in terms of sound, like the anemic LFL title track, because she doesn't seem concerned with commercial success, just as some of the artists she admires, like Joan Baez and Joni Mitchell, never cared about it either. She didn't follow up on the 'Doin' Time' sound on COCC, though DT brought her a lot of airplay. I feel that whatever is in her mind, whatever she's feeling in the studio, whatever is resulting from her creativity and being gifted to her by her muse in the moment, that's what LDR9 will sound like, assuming it's 'new' material and not one of the side projects she's presumably got sitting on the shelf. But something calculated? I don't think so.

Serene Queen; If I Die Young; Unidentified Flying Bill; Angels Forever; Hollywood; JFK.

Ride, Old Money, Yosemite, If You Lie Down With Me, Violets For Roses. Unreleased: Serene Queen.

Nicely done!

And song titles like 'Marriner's Apartment Complex.' Yes.

It's very possible she's waiting for 'the right man,' and perhaps she thought Clay was. A lot of woman don't want to actively have a baby with just any man. Of course, I don't know where her mind is on the subject of children right now, but she said, around the LFL era, that she wanted children.

No one can accurately say Lana "doesn't want to work" after 2021, especially with 'WCE' dropping earlier this year, and 'Buddy's Rendezvous' on the way. We know she wants one or more children, and she's getting older, so the time is now. She's a Cancer--family is important. Maybe'll she'll adopt, but I don't see her going that route. Whatever comes next in her life, she'll continue to work, which she clearly loves doing. I remember she once said her muse was "achingly slow," which I've never understood, since she's so prolific. Even if she takes a break from recording, she's got the songs cut from BB, the covers album, the country album with her buddy, and she could also release the 'Unreleased' album. I don't think we have long to wait, and obviously, releasing two full albums in one year worked, more or less.

Just a note to others in case others have the same problem, but perhaps because I had never accessed this thread, it was buried deep in 'Lana Thoughts' and not near the top. Thanks all.

One reason I'm late to this thread is that I usually access LanaBoards on my phone, and I cannot find this thread using my phone. It's under 'Lana Thoughts,' but where after that? Got it, thanks all.

You're right, I came to it late. I'm sure someone suggested the political meaning.

To me, DNC means 'Democratic National Committee.' Isn't LDR a Democrat?

Thanks, GLF. Much appreciated.

Sorry, what is DNC? Thank you.

Thanks.

I agree. But she has so much backed-up material, and she is or may be changing labels? Has any of that been confirmed?

So: is the 'new album' news for 2/30/22 completely discredited, despite the fact that there is no 2/30, ever, even in a leap year? Are we thinking there might be a new album in March? Lorde knows that, since she removed a good deal of the 'new' songs from BB, she should have enough for a new all-Lana album. Is she working with Jack again? Has that been confirmed? And then there's the 'American Classics' and the Nikki Lane project. I'd love to hear something aggressive like 'Serene Queen,' which, in a sense, is to me Lana at her most powerful.

I’d like some trip hop beats. Beats, period. Not in the Jack Kerouac sense, of course.

'Playing Dangerous' is so fun. Doo-doo-doo-doo....

I've been listening to Lorde's album 'Solar Power.' I'm not a huge Lorde fan, nor did I like most of JA's work with Lana, but the sound of 'Solar Power,' overall, is, to me, amazing. It makes me realize how much I miss Lana's pure pop music, and when I hear Lorde's 'California' and the title track, it makes me wish these were Lana's songs instead. They're so vibrant, bouncy, dreamy, upbeat, and ethereal, and you don't get the sense that she's trying really hard. It all just seems to roll out as if it were effortless and organic, so I give Jack a lot of credit, and Lorde too. She does a few of those brief Kate Bush vocal fillips, which she also did on her last album. The vocal arrangements throughout are fantastic. I know Lana doesn't appear to be going in a pop direction in any shape or form, but I would sorely love to see Lana do something like 'Solar Power'--like a combination of 'Wait For Life,' 'Radio,' 'Making Out,' 'Meet Me In The Pale Moonlight,' 'Summertime Sadness,' 'American,' and "Wild At Heart.' Emile, come back, all is forgiven.

I'm glad to hear the album has aged well for most here, as it has for me. Three tracks still haven't come to life for me (one being the Trio, which I've known in its original form since I was a boy from the Ennio Morricone TGTB&TU score), but everything else has. Right now, it's my favorite of Lana's albums. I really like where she's coming from on all the newly-written songs, and also on IYLDWM, which we know was written some time ago. I'm glad BBS has a pop-music chorus, since I think pop music is one of Lana's fortes. IYLDWM and VFR are now among my Top 5 personal favorites of all of Lana's songs. I play those three the most, but 'Arcadia' has also really grown on me--it fits well here, but would also have fit well on COCC, I think, in terms of message and sound. CB, NOFG and LL, I've loved since they leaked, so I play them less. 'Thunder' is good in its present form, though I prefer the demo version. TB and WFWF are tremendous, and underscore an apparent shift in her songwriting---there's no way other singer-songwriters can ignore her now, or consider her a niche act, not after '13 Beaches,' 'Hope,' 'The Greatest,' 'Mariner's Apartment Complex,' 'Yosemite,' 'White Dress' and these two tracks. We know Lana's songs will be covered by many in the years and decades to come--Cat Power has just covered 'White Mustang.' A lot of great musical artists have nonetheless also released a lot of bad songwriting--I'm thinking of Stevie Nicks right now, whose discography ratio of good to bad is fairly pointed, or even Bruce Springsteen, Tori Amos, or 21 Pilots. In my opinion, Lana's good-to-bad ratio is very strong, easily falling on the 'mostly good' side. On all her albums combined and her unreleased work from her LDR period, I can think of less than 10 songs I consider poor, weak, rushed-sounding or underdeveloped, like 'Coachella,' or some of the minor tracks on BTD (and on BTD, I don't really place the responsibility on her shoulders, because she didn't have complete control then). For me, BB is something of a crowning achievement, and, despite WFWF, overall has a fairly light touch.