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Great. You're right, I meant 'Coyote' and 'DJRD.' Then, in that capacity, COCC the album is more like 'Hejira' the song.

I agree. On headphones, as others noted just above, it's incredible, all the little additions and subtleties you pick up. I love the early trip hop LDR, but this production is immaculate.

Okay. Even in that capacity, then, COCC the song is like neither 'Hejira' or 'Don Juan's Reckless Daughter,' especially since, in my opinion, 'DJRD' is just a retread of 'Hejira.' They're fraternal twins. I apologize for misquoting you.

It was included in a longer sentence. It seemed sincere, perhaps only misinformed, or maybe TLM meant 11 but wrote 14.

Does anyone know why one member here mentioned a 14-track COCC? I think it was Terrence Loves Me?

It’s among her very very best. It’s now in my Top 3 and likely to stay there, as the other two have been in place since before HM.

How 14 tracks? Anyone?

I don't think it's a bad song, just 'minor,' just something someone of her talent could have knocked off in a few hours. That's why, I think, some are calling LMLYLAW "lazy." But she clearly liked it enough to release it, and perhaps it's one of her favorites, we may never know.

It's when you feel the urge to get up and go, to leave everything and just travel or move on. Historically, especially before the 20th century, this has largely been attributed to happening to men, but of course that's not wholly accurate. Men going to sea and joining various kinds of military units to 'see the world' is an example of this. Or, even earlier, the Crusades. Joni Mitchell's album 'Hejira' is a record of her own travels in the mid-70s, when friends told her they were driving across America and asked her if she wanted to go, and she dropped everything and got into the backseat, and off she went, in a spurt of wanderlust. The Beats and most of their works were also inspired by the same desire.

Question: is the Spoiler button how you 'hide contents' here? Thanks. Ah, I see that it is. Thanks.

Thanks--we can hope. If all that is accurate, she's sure been working hard in the studio.

But while 'silent,' she could easily low-key put out the 'American standards' album that never saw the light of day on Christmas. Perhaps towards the end of this year.

Great. Then we're on the same page. I agree that the pointless, groundless comments add nothing to the discussion and bring the whole tenor down for most.

We've heard the live version, or a live version, which I believe is on YouTube. I asked the same thing.

I think, for the sake of communication, we might explain why we feel or think as we do, and perhaps get into a genuine conversation about it, but no one should ever have to justify anything or be attacked for an opinion on a song or album.

Thanks--I''m not one for an album's 'aesthetic cohesion,' which I know means a lot to a lot of LDR Stans, but in the case of COCC and LMLYLAW, I do feel they're cohesive. If that continues throughout the album with the other tracks, or most of them, that will be terrific.

Absolutely true and beautifully expressed---if only LDR herself would return to that attitude! I think it was either GeminiLanaFan or Bunny Mozart who coined the term "fake Woke people" here, not referring to members, but to critics (like Anne Powers) who have attacked LDR routinely and held her up to their own exactly standards, instead of LDR's own.

It's not 'slander,' it's just people expressing their thoughts, feelings and ideas, which of course are going to be unique and differ slightly or grossly from those of others'. That IS how you have a conversation. If I don't care for LMLYLAW and say so, I'm not attempting to offend those who like or love it. And so on. It should be interesting to all of us to know what others think and feel about the COCC title track and LMLYLAW. I love the title track, I think it's among her very best for a number of reasons which I've stated, and while I didn't care for LMLYLAW initially, after hearing the title track, I like it more, as the title track, for me, somehow brings LMLYLAW to life. Right now, I have very high hopes for COCC the album.